#good omens flashbacks

[toastpandadraws]

Does anyone else think we're getting any more past flash backs or no?

[lijzeil]

Chains

Part 1 here (Inktober, thank you for my pornography)

More shades here

[v0idwraith]

SOHO???

[localinternetstranger]

I was just in a conversation about flashbacks for season 3 and decided to share my thoughts and what I'd like to see for flashbacks

(If you can't tell I like Crowley, mb)

First off 1827, I love 1827 flashback with all my heart, and honestly wouldn't be against seeing more of it, But I really want to know what happened to crowley after he was taken to hell, and what was so bad to make him feel the need to ask aziraphale for holy water, and if aziraphale was correct at the time what he would use it for, if crowley really was that far down, or if even then he just wanted it for reassurance.

on the topic of holy water

1941, I feel like 1941 ended off well, I wouldn't complain if we got more (I mean.. It seems like an important year for them) but I don't see the need for it, besides maybe seeing aziraphale do the apology dance. however it would be interesting to see what happened between 1941 and when he plans the heist for holy water again, because compared to how we saw him in 1941, I'm curious why he would be looking for it again. What trouble he may have gotten into between that time. Maybe he was still punished for collaborating with an angel even if there was no proof?

1793 is repeatedly mentioned in the series, though besides seeing aziraphale do the apology dance, and what may have caused them to miss their lunch date after aziraphale was saved in 1793 for Crowley to owe him one in 2008.

1650 was the only year aziraphale mentioned he did the apology dance that we didn't already have a flashback for, and I hope we get to see what exactly they were doing to have aziraphale do the dance, and, assuming this is the first time it was ever done, where it came from.

Crowley's fall. I really want to see the fall and the full reason why it happened because "crowley isn't a reliable narrator for his fall". I really do feel like there was more to it, whether it was Crowley's fault or not. Also want to know more about if aziraphale and crowley had a relationship of any sorts while he was still in heaven, they obviously met when Crowley made the nebula, but we don't really know how much longer Crowley was in heaven after that, or if him and Aziraphale interacted more.

Also would like to see more of Aziraphale's diary entries like with 1827, and maybe some flashbacks of what Crowley and Aziraphale were doing in between their random meetings throughout the years, considering they're currently separated yet again.

[amanda-melly]

My Good Omens headcanon - this part is titled "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THEY DIDN'T KISS IN 1941"

(as always these are nothing but my thoughts and my headcanon)

I would be really, really upset if we eventually discover that either Aziraphale or Crowley have kissed anyone before (including each other), or had a romantic incident in their life before (including with each other) before what we got to see. I can see a lot of people are saying they could have almost kissed in 1941 (like, not just accidentally, but aware of being in love) but I don't like that. The beauty of season 2's plot and flashbacks was allowing us to see their moments of realisation and the culmination of the realisation that they are in love.

Aziraphale realised he loves Crowley in the church in 1941 but couldn't admit it, perhaps not even to himself (you go too fast for me, Crowley). Perhaps he realised then how much he actually liked Crowley after all, without realising it was love. Perhaps he did realise it was love. I don't know. Anyway - That was the moment when knew, deep down, that it was love.

For Crowley it wasn't so hard to admit he liked Aziraphale and Aziraphale's company. But he only realised it was a "love" love in the conversation with Nina when Aziraphale is inviting people to the ball. That was the moment for Crowley.

Then when Crowley voiced it to Aziraphale either Aziraphale knew he love-loved Crowley and panicked thinking "not now, not like this", OR that was the moment in which he realised on the surface what he had already realised deep down in 1941. I'm not sure which.

In either case it's obvious that the kiss changed Aziraphale in the same way that the ox ribs changed him forever. I don't see him in seasons 1 and 2 as someone who has already kissed or almost kissed Crowley in 1941.

It would diminish their growth as characters if suddenly we found out that "hey, all that unquestionable realisation of their feelings and overt manifestations of love that you saw - that was not really the real thing. The real thing happened in 1941 and we just kind of chose to show you a lot of other scenes from the past but not that one, thanks bye".

The scene in 1941 that was shown in s1 was pertinent to what needed to be shown then (Aziraphale doesn't have Agnes Nutter's book but he knows how important that book is, Aziraphale loves his books of prophecy so much that Crowley remembers to save the books while Aziraphale saves their lives) (conveniently the scene ALSO shows us that Aziraphale is good but gullible, Crowley is always there to rescue him, Aziraphale does huge heart eyes, that these two go a long way and know each other very well, etc).

Then we got back to 1941 to develop it further because the plot of season 2 revolves around their relationship and how their trust in each other was built and strengthened. And, of course, s2 also gives a lot of attention to their slow burning romance and their difficulties in communication.

Now... If they ever almost kissed, like, if there is a scene in season 3 set in 1941 showing that they had already realised they loved each other and perhaps even confessed it to each other in 1941... Well, I'd feel cheated if the show chose to only show us such a scene in s3 and not in s2, where it belonged.

I don't think season 3's plot and themes revolve around them realising and confessing their love. That was the plot and the theme of season 2. Season 3 is about the dealing with the consequences of them realising and confessing their love in season 2, and with them dealing with their choices and moral stances about heaven and earth and the second coming. Season 3 will further develop their relationship to NEW places, not go back to "hey they actually already knew they were in love". That's just not interesting anymore, it's been thoroughly tackled in season 2, now let's move FORWARD.

The plot of season 3 (I think) will be (or should be) the corruption of heaven. (and hell, i guess, but then again, what is hell, by definition, if not corruption?). And the second coming. Corruption of heaven and the second coming. Those are the main "plot driving" aspects of s3 (I think).

And concerning Aziraphale and Crowley's relationship the plot in season 3 should be about them coming to terms with all the mess in heaven and hell and all the consequences of the s2 finale that COMPLETELY changed their dynamic: THAT scene closed a chapter forever and marked the beginning of a NEW chapter in their relationship, something they NEVER really dealt with before, and they will have to deal with now, for better or for worse.

That's why it makes a lot of sense to me to dig deeper into Lucifer's rebellion, Crowley's fall etc. S3 should expose the cracks in the system. And there is a huge emotional anchor between that and Crowley's past, so it makes for great storytelling

Of course we are always into more flashbacks of Aziraphale and Crowley through the ages, and there can (and should) be a lot of romantic undertones in them, but I don't want them to "realise" they're in love in new flashbacks. New flashbacks should give us context to their present day challenges (aka s3 challenges and not s2 challenges).

[ratsalad]

all good omens flashbacks in chronological order

put this together hastily using this screenrant article and the wikipedia page. while this list has all the aziraphale+crowley flashbacks in chronological order, i may have missed a few that don't involve them. season 2 flashbacks in green.

"Before the beginning" - Crowley creates the universe.

4004 B.C., Sunday, October 21, 9:13 a.m. - The creation of the universe, according to God.

4004 B.C., "just after the beginning" - Eve plucks the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden; Crowley and Aziraphale have their first on-screen interaction.

3004 B.C., Mesopotamia - Crowley and Aziraphale witness the events of Noah's Ark, revealing that unicorns once existed.

2500 B.C., Land of Uz - Crowley is sent to torment Job.

33 A.D., Golgotha - Crowley and Aziraphale watch as Jesus gets crucified.

41 A.D., Rome - Crowley and Aziraphale get drinks together.

537 A.D., Kingdom of West Essex - Crowley and Aziraphale discuss the possibility of playing a less active role in the Apocalypse.

1601, Globe Theatre, London - Crowley and Aziraphale meet William Shakespeare. Shakespeare steals a line of dialogue from Crowley that he'll eventually use in Antony and Cleopatra; Crowley performs a miracle by making Hamlet popular.

1656, Lancashire, England - England's last witch burning. The witch named Agnes Nutter thwarts Witchfinder Major Pulsifer when he attempts to burn her at the stake.

1793, Paris - Aziraphale escapes prison during the French Revolution's Reign of Terror.

1824, Edinburgh - Aziraphale and Crowley encounter a poor grave robber and find the line between good and bad deeds on Earth isn’t always clear.

1862, St. James Park, London - Crowley requests holy water from Aziraphale for assurance in case anything goes wrong.

1941, London – (S1) Aziraphale meets Nazis in a church, bringing books of prophecy for Hitler, only to double-cross them. Despite the pain of standing on consecrated ground, Crowley comes to Aziraphale's rescue. (S2) The three Nazis are resurrected as zombies. Aziraphale and Crowley perform their magic trick.

1967, Soho, London - Crowley meets Lance Corporal Shadwell. Crowley attempts to steal holy water from a church; Aziraphale is worried, so he gets Crowley holy water himself.

"Eleven Years Ago" (circa 2008) - Dukes of Hell, Hastur and Ligur, hand over the Antichrist to Crowley, who then delivers the baby to The Chattering Order of St. Beryl. The Antichrist is then misplaced, being sent to live with Deirdre and Arthur Young, while their actual child, Warlock, is sent to live with Thaddeus and Harriet Dowling. Unaware of the mistake, Crowley and Aziraphale agree to attempt preventing Armageddon from behind the scenes by coaching the boy they assume is the Antichrist.

Five Years Later, Six Years Before the End of the World (circa 2013) - Crowley disguises himself as Warlock's nanny, while Aziraphale disguises himself as the Dowlings' gardener.

[garbagesprinkles]

good omens season 3 but with a flashback that shows Aziraphale and Crowley in 280 A.D. in Turkey and Aziraphale’s angelic guilt hits and he decides he wants to give gifts to the poor and less fortunate but wants to be sneaky about it and basically becomes the Original Santa Claus

and Crowley obviously has to wile out so he’s giving Krampus and now we have a PARTY LET ME TELL YOU

i’m just SAYIN just IMAGINE hims with a lil blonde beard going “ho ho ho” and eating all the cookies and just cooing and saying “scrumptious”

^ exhibit A

^ the defense rests

[brideavocado]

These are the overall best flashbacks in good omens. You can not tell me otherwise ;)