when matt and jay finished filming the webseries, they didn't speak to each other for a year and matt went to make the dirties and jay played in a band. matt even said he deleted jay's number.
years later when they filmed the vice series they did interviews where they made jokes that matt left jay to make movies and he was sick of jay. except that can't be true cuz on the dirties commentary he says he originally wanted jay to play owen in the dirties, which he repeated like over 10 years later at a dirties q&a.
then at a NTBTSTM interview in 2025 jay said he was navigating things from his own life through the movie's narrative (where jay abandons matt to become famous but eventually choose matt over success) then in a little movie promo short matt makes a joke that owen is his best friend and jay gets upset/jealous as a "joke"
then in another interview-
