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Annnd Carnival of Chaos comes to an end. What’s your thoughts overall to this season?

Looking back at my predictions, I was right about the things between Anastasia and Marissa, and Lynda. (Even if Lynda was eliminated shortly afterward) But I also thought Logan would be the first one getting voted off which doesn’t age well at all. (And the fact he only received two votes in Episode 24 is impressive honestly)

I am very happy I choose to root for Isabel before the season started since my track record for rooting for a character not always great. (When TD reboot’s cast was announced I was rooting for Chase…)

hi!!! we made it to the end of another season!!! it's so wild that this has practically been My Entire Year's Experience. just stressing over these silly lines on my screen... so like every other experience i have with these shows-

i'll always be happy i picked jade as one of my favs from the start. i'm so proud of her and she's really grown to be my overall fav of this series. and congrats on your correct predictions + early rooting choice! very funny that logan was your first elim pick though considering... yeah 😭

as always, i will ramble under the cut to save most of you. beware of my spoiler filled rambles. they're a doozy. (the tldr: 7.5/10 season, might change it to an 8 or 8.5 when i calm down due to the finale, generally fun season overall):

#my rambles are all over the place and extensive because i feel really really really passionate about this season #very sorry for all the words; it will happen again #i'm not proofreading this because i don't believe in the concept of reading my own stuff <3 #ask quackle #hhytheking #also sorry this took like 2-3 days 😭 i feel like im always bad at explaining myself. but i tried my best #disventure camp spoilers

Also what’s your thoughts of Riya? I don’t know if she is someone who we are supposed to hate or I am supposed to sympathy with her. The show and staff members want to make you think she is both, but I am just confused.

i am Just Okay when it comes to riya. like overall, i'd say i like her, but not as much as... well, a lot of characters from this series.

i'll always stare in interest at characters who fake it in front of cameras because i really like the internal conflict that particular trope tends to show. 'who are you when the general public isn't in front of you' is a question that is my personal bread and butter. in s2 and even a bit in as, i was nodding along with riya's characterization. but at the same time, riya's whole deal didn't catch my eye as much, especially after the merge in as. it's probably because at the point in the season, i was rolling my eyes at least once per ep.

i do think onc was going for the whole "sympathize/understand riya, but don't support her" deal, but because her actions were so extreme, and because we didn't see her off-camera persona as much, it is hard for most people to feel both of those things at the same time. it all comes down to needing a bit more nuance, something they didn't put as much time in. they aren't the first to do that, and won't be the last either.

so. tldr. if you wanted me to rate her. uh. 6/10 i guess...? yeah let's go with that.

#i'd probably form a better more well thought out opinion if i rewatched s2 + s3 but i don't wanna LOL #ask quackle #hhytheking

I recently find out that Jake was supposed to be the winner of DCAS, but multiple staff members hate that idea because they find him hard to root and convince Jarad to change into a Riya win.

But for me? I am conflicted with the Riya winning ending as well, I know she became an ass by the end but she was the only one who didn’t have a good ending? Even YUL got a happy ending over her???

From what I seen by making Riya winning it would always make a group of people unsatisfied. Some say she still have her money and career thus this karma isn’t strong enough, while some think this is too much for Riya, and they mostly blame ONC for what happened to her.

I still wish Ally was the winner. With her winning, Yul will not have his money to open his podcast and now we have two miserable people instead one.

ah yes... v4 of the elimination orders onc went through... sometimes i think about the reveal of all of this and shiver... hello my past nightmare...

i think dcas as a whole is equivalent to a head tilt. like. huh. i personally don't think it's the worst thing i've watched by a long shot, but there are still things that make me go "why did they do that. how'd we get here."

i remember saying something along the lines of "there will always be a group of people pissed off at the winner of shows like these," and i think that will always hold some truth. it didn't matter if jake or ally won, or even if they went an entirely different direction and had, say, ashley win, because people would still be upset. a writer's demise is that they cannot please everyone </3

riya's case is interesting because like you said, both people who didn't want her to win and people who did want her to win wound up disappointed. i getttt what the writers were going for, having someone who turns oh so malicious when the cameras roll win the show but not win in life, and in many ways, i still commend them for doing that. but at the same time, the execution of this season, from the wonky drama to the missed opportunities of certain character dynamics, makes it not hit as well as it could have. thus, a head tilt of a character, and a head tilt of an overall season. to me.

(also i'll always be a bit peeved at yul's ending. yeah yeah we can argue he'd have to sit with all the shit he did throughout his life with fake smiles in podcasts he'd rather not participate in, but i gotta be honest, i think he deserved far worse than what he ended up with)

#oh dc all stars they'll never make me form a full cohesive opinion on you i fear #ask quackle #hhytheking #also as much as i went ''aw it's ok ally didn't win i get it'' i was still so upset when she lost 😭#i'll mourn that she was never considered a winner forever

That’s one of the issues of that season, two characters are too closed to each other until one of them got voted off. Not just Scarlett and Max, there’s also Sky and Dave, Rodney and his female teammates, Topher and Chris, to which Topher barely have anything to do others unless plot need him to.

The worst one in my opinion is Amy and Sammy, Amy is all being mean to Sammy and while Sammy have her friendship with Jasmine, it’s all lead back to Amy being a bully to Sammy. And even after Amy getting vote off doesn’t make Sammy interact with others as she is pretending to be Amy. Then Amy come back and Chris eliminate them both.

This is a common problem for every seasons of Total Drama really, there gonna be two or more people mostly interact with each other. (Like Katie and Sadie and Raj and Wayne) but PI take to another level.

YEAH exactly!!! it's a shame this particular season suffers from this because unlike any other, this is the only time these characters are in total drama (except leonard in tdrr, but can you really count that...?). we never got to run it back and see them interact with anybody else. it's stale 😭 which is so unfortunate because the characters could have been so much more interesting had they had the chance to branch out!

i know gen 1, 2, and 4 suffered from this as well, but at least some of the other characters had the opportunity to interact with more people or get the smallest hint of characterization outside of another character. but gen 3 got thee shortest end of the stick in that regard. like that's it! and that blows!

#i can't blame the writers toooo much because once again. short season. smaller opportunity to write much nuance #but man does it feel so. weak 💔#ask quackle #hhytheking

What do you think Scarlett’s grand reveal in “Scarlett Fever”?

I saw a lot say this ruined her character. I don’t think it’s really that bad, but I don’t like it as I felt it’s way too over-the-top, also too rushed. Like it happened so suddenly?

both of our opinions are pretty much the same here! i think that i can't say it completely ruined scarlett for the sole purpose that she was kind of interesting before that flip happened. to me. like sometimes i pretend it didn't happen tbh. #SelfCare #ThingsAreOnlyCanonWhenIWantThemToBe #NoIDon'tCareAboutTheKnivesInTheGlobeInHerAuditionTape

that whole "this is the real me 😈" bit was super over-the-top, and i think that's what makes it feel rushed. when i first watched this season, i was so confused. i thought that instead of the whole "i've been biding my time, now i'm gonna take the million or destroy the island cause i'm evil mwahaha" thing, the season would lean more toward her using the island's controls to her advantage during challenges or something. she's smart! let her be smart again by secretly playing these fools! she doesn't have to just fool max; she can fool everybody!!! let her play puppeteer more please i beg!!!!!!

i think what mainly gets me is the lack of motive for a personality of that scale. don't get me wrong, sometimes i think there doesn't need to be a clear reason someone is mean or evil or whatever. and i get this season suffers from its short run time. but for someone who wants to blow up an island with a bunch of other people on it? aka potential murder??? yeahhhh that's gonna need more than "i used to scare the shit out of my brother" and "topher don't piss me off or i'll show you who's boss." otherwise it just feels... idk incomplete in a way?

and the season also made scarlett stick to max sooooo much. they had funny/enjoyable moments but i also think that both of their characters suffered from their close proximity. i thought that when chris made them split up into different teams, scarlett would get the opportunity/challenge to fool the others more... and then it didn't happen like that because the writers said "oh let's have chris trick topher into quitting for this elim and then go into the merge and then put scarlett and max together again! yay!!!"

but yeah. tldr: scarlett is robbed by the narrative, making her big reveal feel completely over-the-top. (then again i could argue almost every character from this specific season is robbed by the narrative. because the narrative was hanging on a string.)

#it's been a while since i watched this season so apologies if i remember something wrong #we should all team up and save scarlett from the narrative. who's with me 😼#ask quackle #hhytheking #sorry i rambled again it's a fatal flaw #also unimportant but that bottom pic is one of my fav scarlett moments. she was oh so polite to raise her hand before speaking <3

Oh! That will be a lot since there are 42 students here, I will say couple ones that I think.

The other friendship I think could have are:

1. Yoshio and Keita and Yuichiro, I know they are somewhat close in manga but it isn’t show in novel. I think they can be good friends cause all three of them are nice and meek and I think they must have same interests in anime or video games.

2. Yumiko and Haruka, they are both short hair girl who are in sport club and I am surprise nobody consider these two’s friendship before.

3. Also Yumiko and Tadakatsu, former is in softball club while latter is in baseball club, they certainly have something in common.

4. I know they are friends in novel, but I feel like Satomi and Yuka are best friends.

5. Sakura and Shinji or Chisato can bonded over the fact that one of their family member was killed by the government.

6. Mizuho might try to include Noriko into the space warrior circle due to she being Megumi’s friend.

7. Sho can definitely tell Haruka is a lesbian and invite her to his place and chat about their sexuality.

8. I know you don’t like her, but I think Fumiyo and Mitsuru, Ryuhei and Hiroshi could be close, since she work as a nurse-in-aids while those three often pick fight with other gangs, Fumiyo will definitely spend a lot of time take care of their wounds.

9. I don’t think they are friends in novel, but Oki and Yuko really could be friends. Yuko was traumatized by her father, while Oki doesn’t have the same experience he is the type of person that will try to make her feel better.

10. Like I mentioned in Japan middle school students form group to do group project. The group are either 4 or 6 members, it usually go with student number 1-2 as a group or student number 1-3 as a group. This certainly make everyone closer one way or another and special shout-out to Team 4 (10-12): Hiroki, Yutaka and Haruka only have each other as Ryuhei, Hirono and Mitsuko won’t bother putting any effect into the group project.

In general, I think Yuka and Yutaka could befriend majority of their classmates, but they might annoyed those who prefer quiet.

I think Izumi could befriend almost everyone, with couple exceptions. (Shogo, Mitsuko and Kazuo)

I am just happy we can all dig into those 42 students instead focus only 6 or 7 of them.

I mean it’s only friendship, imagine the potential rivalry between some!

Thank you for your thoughts again! I really appreciate that you take the time to write it out. I had to admit I got to number 8 and considered just not reading anymore (just kidding! - maybe). Like I get the thought process behind it, but the idea that Fumiyo would swoop in and play nurse with Mitsuru, effectively taking him away from my girl too, is infuriating! Hasn't she done enough! 😂 I particularly like the idea of the "geeks" (Keita, Yuichiro and Yoshio) getting along well. I think I wrote something similar once when asked who else I thought Keita could be friends with. They'd be such an adorable trio! Heavy agree on Yumiko and Haruka and Yumiko and Katsu too. I think Yumiko is another laid-back character who would get along well with most people. I think Sho and Haruka could be a cool duo too, especially if Haruka could confide in him (if she ever reached that level of trust with him). I love gay solidarity.

Yuko and Tatsumichi is a couple I kinda liked based only on the theory that they were together before Shuya and Noriko stumbled upon them in the movie (mostly a joke theory that I don't necessarily believe for real, but it adds to the lore and I enjoy it). I agree that Izumi, and really most of the neutral girls (maybe with the exceptions of Satomi and Haruka who seem a bit harder to get close to) would get along well with most of their classmates! The idea of the group of students working from numbrs 1-3 makes me realize Keita and Mizuho would work together too, and I think that would be hilarious. And Izumi would be with Toshinori who I like to think she would get along with. And Yukiko! Izumi and Yukiko could be cute friends. Now that you mention rivalries I HAVE to ask... Do you have any thoughts on that too?

#hhytheking #thank you so much again for sharing your thoughts!#asks

So the female classmates I think can befriend Niida are:

1. Yuka, I think they have something in common: They are both member of their respective sport club, they are both friends with Tadakatsu. I think their personality hit it off well, she might be one of the few that could laugh at some of the thing he said. Also I feel like they might bond over poking fun (friendly) at Tadakatsu.

2. Yoshimi, this is inspired by role play accounts I saw back in the days, where Niida and Yoshimi’s interaction was pretty interesting to me. They are both friend to Yoji. (In Yoshimi’s case, boyfriend) And I do think their personality hit it off well enough.

3. Kayoko, again, I think their personality hit it off well. But I first come up the thought of them being friend due to I found it funny, as I think Niida and Kayoko is a good foil to Hiroki and Takako. Former are both high energy while the latter are both quite. Also I think Hiroki might envy Niida get along well with Kayoko just like how Niida might envy Hiroki get along well with Takako.

4. Mizuho, well, personality hit it off well but unlike those three, it needs some time for them to become friends. At that time I ship them actually, I am over it right now but I still think they can be friends if possible.

5. Noriko, while I don’t think they will be friends right away, they still can once they know each other well enough. In Japan, middle school will let students form group to do group project, and it usually go with male student 1 and 2 and female student 1 and 2 as one group, etc. So Noriko and Niida will have the chance to interact if that do happen.

The Niida I am basing here is the novel one, I have reread the novel again and honestly I don’t even know what he really like before the program: Only Takako talked about his past and while it’s pretty negative, it doesn’t mean he was this predator we think he is.

I mean he isn’t even the one who spread the rumor about he and Takako being together, he only play along with it. So overall just like you said the ones that could befriend Niida are mostly those energetic and easygoing girls, as in my opinion their personality hit it off well with Niida’s. While others are either dislike him or stay neutral to him.

It's interesting to hear your take on this! I did suspect you would say characters like Yuka, as I feel Yuka would get along with most people. And it's a good point about Tadakatsu being a common character between them (now there's a character I personally love; Katsu).

I get what you mean that Kazushi getting along with Kayoko would open for an interesting dynamic involving Hiroki too.

For Yoshimi, I kind of always assumed she would roll her eyes at Yoji's "lame friends" and that Yoji would keep those aspects of his life kinda seperated, haha. But it could be fun to explore further!

Ultimately I'm glad we have so many characters that can be fleshed out further and where we can theorise on potential friendships and relationships that weren't necessarily mentioned in the original novel (like how we found out about Yuka and Tadakatsu being friends in Angels' Border). Do you have any other ideas of who would be friends with whom that isn't stated in the original novel?

#hhytheking #asks #thank you for the ask again!!#its so interesting to hear others BR thoughts

So what’s your opinion on three versions of Shinji? And what’s your favorite in order?

Again sorry for the late answer! This is such a difficult question for a recovering Shinji hater. And when I say hater, I mean HATER. He used to be in my bottom 3. However, @pimpedoutgreenears has changed me and I've started enjoying Shinji as a character, especially in fan content.

In terms of novel (and I guess manga) Shinji: The reason why I used to dislike him was because he was so cocky and seemed to think he was better than everyone else (which I still kind of think, but now I enjoy that as comic relief), and of course, I thought he was really unfair to Keita in not having a honest conversation with him about the incident between them that led Shinji to pull away from him. He just went on pretending everything was fine without giving Keita a chance to explain or redeem himself. And Keita ended up dead because of it.

I've cooled down a little about it. I think I see it less black and white now, and I can understand that Keita broke his trust once and that one time was all Shinji needed to not be willing to risk his (and Yutaka's) life when Keita showed up during the Program. And that Shinji's bad attitude during the Program is due to the unbelivable pressure and stress of the situation.

He's still not one of my favourite characters or anything, but I feel like I understand him more after so many years and I can appreciate him for what he is. I appreciate his relationship with Yutaka, his dynamic with Shuya and the other guys, and his drive and determination.

I feel like the novel and manga versions are pretty similar, but I will say I prefer the novel one more, as the manga one is a bit more perverted. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing or inaccurate for a teenager (or for anyone, I guess) but the manga was a little overly sexual in general for me.

The movie version: I actually never had much of a problem with the movie version of Shinji. Obviously the dynamic between him, Keita and Yutaka is very different here, and I appreciate these three kinda goofy guys trying to take down the system together. Shinji is still very much portrayed as the leader of the group, but his arrogance is really toned down I feel like. Yeah sure, he flips Keita off, slaps him once and then shuts him up with his hand another time, so you see a glimpse of his contempt for him maybe, but overall I think the trio works well. I enjoy the scene where they look at photos and talk about all going home together. Their friendship seems very genuine in the movie. In terms of ranking:

It's hard for me to rank them in order, because I never had a problem with the movie version the same way I did the novel one, but the novel one is the one I consider "canon" and the one that makes me feel... the most? His flaws are more obvious, he has made some decisions that piss me off, but we also get to know him much better, we get to know more about his motivations, about his relationship with Yutaka which is really a big part of his character too... So it feels like I'm choosing between a more fleshed out and realistic character vs the simplified version of that character.

I think I will have to go for 1. Novel 2. Movie 3. Manga. Which I know is strange, because the manga one is pretty similar to the novel one, but I think it's just me not loving the manga in the first place that affects this decision.

Ultimately novel has to come first, because if I could change the movie to include their novel storyline instead, I definetly would!

#Sorry this got kinda long #Im also typing it out as Im thinking about it so it might read a bit messy #hhytheking #thank you for the ask!!#battle royale #asks