Introduction: So I’ve been shipping this since I read Karkat’s first pesterlog. Was like “Oh maaaaan. This guy. I need this guy to talk to Dave, because that, my friends, would be an interesting conversation.” It just seemed like an interesting dynamic to observe and thus my otp became a crack ship and i cried (two characters who hadn’t even talked yet!). So I’m super happy with recent developments and I’ve been working on this here masterlist of sorts. This is gonna be an in-depth analysis starting with individual characters and ending with their relationship as a whole, plus every link for every moment they shared in-comic. Enjoy.
Part 1: Character Analysis
Part 2: In-Comic Interactions, Moments, and Name Mentions
Part 3: References to Davekat Outside of Comic
Part 4: Paradox Space Moments
Part 5: Relationship Analysis
Part 1:
Character Analysis 1 (in order of appearance): Dave Strider
Hobbies and introduction
Inferred personality and life: Dave was abused by his Bro until he was 13, as such he does not like fighting, seeing blood, or hearing metal noises. His planet, The Land of Heat and Clockwork, has many qualities of the things he is negatively sensitive to. He is constantly worried about appearing cool. He wears his shades and can put out an aloof front to hide his emotions and any shortcomings/vulnerabilities he possesses. Dave sometimes makes misjudgments about his friends. However, all of his friends can see through his mask and they are fully aware he’s not actually as cool as he claims to be. Rose constantly calls out his Freudian slips. John tells him his rapping is dorky. Jade uses sarcasm to express how he’s “soooooo coooooool”. He is incredibly impatient (He slices through the fake first name given to him, he has to wait for his artifact to hatch, and he breaks swords rather than finding a proper way to remove them, corresponding to the lesson of patience being taught to him through his aspect of Time.). Dave is also extremely intelligent, but more so in a creative way. He is verbose and seems to be naturally gifted in a literary sense. He creates art that has developed its own cult following in both the alpha and beta-verses. Dave is also extremely friendly one-on-one. In group settings, because he has an audience, he tends to make a fuss and act out/gets on others’ nerves, quite possibly for attention or just to assert his dominance, as his bro has taught him to do. However, alone, he is fairly amiable. The birds that invade his home believe his room to be a safe haven and he isn’t registered as a real threat, despite accidentally flinging a blade through one of their fellow flock members. He also seems to crave physical intimacy with others, but only allows himself to be that way around those he becomes completely comfortable with (examples: Mayor , Karkat, Dirk). He is also highly expressive and practically bursting with his own emotions as shown by his constant Freudian slips, almost as if his personality just wants to break through his poker faced façade. He has a major hero complex, despite not liking the idea of heroism, and believes he has to save everybody, which is reflective of his knight class.
Character Development: His impatience is sort of resolved in his ability to control his aspect. In the doomed timeline he develops a disdain for his time powers and chooses not to use them. In the alpha timeline he appears to know when he should fight and when he should fall back, a much more balanced resolution. He no longer views heroism as a point he has to reach. He is healing from the toxic masculinity that plagued him in his childhood, but at least now he recognizes it. Dave is more open about his feelings and allows his emotions (and Freudian slips) to flow freely. He has become more open minded, learning to accept and even quite possibly adopt troll romance, and is even comfortable enough to accept his sexuality. He likes the idea of having a mother and still has bitter feelings about how his friends had guardians that loved them.
Character Analysis 2: Karkat Vantas
Hobbies and Introduction
Inferred Personality and Life: Karkat, much like Dave, is impatient, slicing through the silly name you attempt to enter for him. His planet, The Land of Pulse and Haze, also hits him in a negatively sensitive spot, as it reminds him of his mutant red blood. This taunting aspect of both Dave and Karkat’s planets may be a running theme with knight classes. Karkat also puts up a front, but where Dave is cool and composed, Karkat is loud, obnoxious, and ornery. This is meant to be a huge distraction to his shortcomings, his mutant blood, and to make others believe he is not vulnerable. Although it could come off as harsh when he speaks, he is not actually verbally abusive. Much like how Dave’s friends don’t actually buy into him being “cool”, none of Karkat’s friends take his bullshit seriously, and if he ever goes too far with the way he speaks, he immediately shows remorse. He is also extremely kind and empathetic. He forgives Gamzee for his murderspree and attempts to keep peace on the meteor by entering a moirailiegience with him. And even after Jack has stabbed him multiple times he is still ready to be friends, which correlates to his Blood aspect’s ability to form bonds. He is always there for his friends to depend on when they need to vent. He is also shown to take a high level of interest in romance, quite possibly because of the concept of strong bonds surrounding it, which reflects back to his aspect, and he is the go to guy for dating advice among his party. However, he always seems to have problems with his own quadrants. He appears to have the Sufferer’s trait of panquadrancy, in which a troll can have one person fulfilling all of their quadrants, but it has yet to be completely confirmed. Karkat has a huge leader complex, which explains his guilt for letting everyone down when he thinks they’ve failed, an aspect that can be traced back to his class as a knight, as he believes he must shoulder all of blame from his and the kid’s failed sessions. A lot of his insecurities have piled up to the point where he hates himself and almost thinks he’s his own kismesis.
Character Development: Karkat is still loud and quite childish with his outbursts and tantrums. However, he is also learning when to pull back before he says too much and has shown the capability to calm down before he “flies off the handle”. His leader complex has died down to a practically nonexistent state, much like Dave’s idea of heroism. He is still willing to die for his friends and fight alongside them, but he is reluctant to try and guide them in any way post retcon. This changes when he decides he wants to lead the ghost army into battle against Lord English. However, he is the first to die, proving that his strength is not in fighting, but rather pacifying. He learns how to choose his battles when he picks a fight with Clover, and then uses his own methods to incapacitate him. Karkat’s entire arc was about learning not to overstep or understep, but finding a balance where he could utilize his skills accordingly.
Part 2: In-Comic Interactions, Moments, and Name Mentions
First Convo
Terezi compares the two
Karkat mentions Dave after Terezi leaves crying
Terezi references Karkat as a comparison to Dave again
First time they see each other
First irl convo with each other
Act 6 Intermission 2 (Karkat talks to himself about his failed relationship with Terezi and how he is jealous of Dave)
Dave namedrops Karkat
Penis Ouija
Karkat asks Dave to caress his cheek (platonically of course)
Dave’s drawing of Karkat riding a dick into a penis sunset
Best Friends Convo Act 6 Intermission 5 and their intervention with Terezi
Dave telling Karkat he’ll “carry him”, Karkat telling Dave to make a time clone to go fuck himself, and the “oh fuck this shit” face they share.
Karkat and Dave landing on top of each other
Jade commenting on how much time Dave spent with Karkat
Dave namedropping Karkat (again)
Dave saying how Karkat enjoys his music
Karkat giving Dave the 411 on Jake’s Hope blast
Dave asking if Karkat is alright
Passing each other by right before Game Over
Caliborn’s Davekat fanart
Vriskagram
Dave and Karkat sitting together
Dave and Karkat whispering to themselves
Dave and Karkat discuss leadership of the group
Dave and Karkat whispering to each other about John getting there
Dave telling Karkat to give John a bro fistbump already
John, Karkat, and Dave discussing toxic masculinity and Dave’s sexual orientation
Vriska endorsing davekat
The Lightening Round with Roxy
Vriska says Karkat is private about his relationship
Karkat bashing Dave’s drawing abilities
Karkat’s “absolutely not” face when Dave volunteered to go after Jack English
Karkat’s sudden appearance by Dave’s side
Karkat sticking up for Dave
Dave tells Dirk about Karkat’s drawings
Jasprose confirms Karkat is in the flushed quadrant with someone
Davepetasprite^2 states they are not conflicted about having feelings for Karkat
Dave asking Dirk how to come out to his friends
Karkat hoping Dave is okay before joining Meenah’s ghost army
Dave and Karkt reuniting after the final battle
Dave hanging all over Karkat after they’ve been reunited
Act 7: Dave and Karkat having a picnic with Jade
Credits (Snapchat montage): Dave carrying Karkat, Making ectobabies, going on adventures together, becoming the troll kings, and living with or hanging out with Jade
Epilogue: John says Karkat softened Dave up
Part 3: References to Davekat Outside of The Comic
Art from Hussie:
This actual fucking doodle Hussie drew
Tweets:
Everything is getting gay
Hussie following through on his promise
Snowman and Crowbar ship davekat
Whatpumpkin:
Rachel from whatpumpkin’s response to people still denying davekat
Whatpumpkin endorsing davekat, rosemary, and gay marriage
Official art print of all the kids on bleachers (Dave and Karkat are sitting next to each other, Dave gesturing to him while speaking with John)
Other
Homestuck Reddit where ipgd confirming davekat in the threads is discussed
Andrew Hussie fucking signing a paper that says DAVEKAT IS CANON
Stride from Vol. 10 of Homestuck Bandcamp music with Karkat spying on Dave and Dirk while pretending to be a plant
Now Those Are Some Tunes: Vol 10 Youtube commercial that says the Striders kiss boys
Seth Massey, artist of the album cover for Thanks for Playing, saying Dave has his hand around Karkat’s waist in the pic
Part 4: Paradox Space Moments
Dave and Karkat complain over Dugeons and Dragons
Everyone, including Karkat, makes Dave take out the trash
Holiday activity page where Karkat gave Dave a gift
Dave talking about pantsing Karkat and casually namedropping him
Dave explaining secret Santa to Karkat
Dave admitting he rates Karkat’s trashy romance novels and listens to him read
Dave and Karkat sprites arguing
Summerteen Romance
Part 5: Relationship Analysis
Taking a close look at their personalities and behaviors, you’d see that Karkat and Dave actually have many parallels in personality and in their development as characters. Terezi even tells Dave that they are really similar, so it’s no wonder that after befriending each other they became something more. Dave and Karkat’s character growth was also positively influenced by their relationship. Dave learned to be more outspoken with his emotions, allowed himself to feel vulnerable, learned how his Bro was abusive because he spent time with people that loved him, and he also came to terms with his sexuality. Karkat has also learned to cool it with his anger and to not immediately fly into a rage. Dave helps him, telling him when he needs to relax. They make each other better. Their relationship standards also fit. Because of Dave’s reluctance to share Terezi with Gamzee in the pre-retcon timeline (even if he says humans could probably do quadrants post-retcon) and Karkat’s desire to place one person in all of his quadrants, they’d also be suitable to each other’s romantic criteria. Probably the most interesting point to their relationship, though, is how balanced they are in their power dynamic. Both can be combative and verbally aggressive. However, they can take what the other says and counter with their own rebuttal. They bicker, but it shows they aren’t afraid to share their opinions with each other. THIS IS NOT AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP. ONE DOES NOT HOLD CONTROL OVER THE OTHER. Even with Dave’s god tier powers, which Karkat has explained makes him feel inadequate for not having, there isn’t much of a gap. The fact that he can even tell Dave that not being god tier makes him feel awful is a huge deal for someone that can’t easily express vulnerability. I’d even go so far as to say that this is the healthiest canon ship in Homestuck.
The Homestuck Mythological Role Master List (Class Edition)
So I tried looking for a list of every single possible pairing of Classes and Aspects in HS everywhere, but I just couldn't seem to find one, so I made two myself- one listed by Class, the other by aspect; both alphabetized. I also included canon players from the webcomic next to their roles.
And of course, I'll keep updating when we are introduced to new characters. If I forget to after a couple of days, send me an ask and I'll fix it right away.
Want the Aspect Edition instead?
To save space I'll just put everything under the "read more".
Bard of Blood
Bard of Breath
Bard of Doom
Bard of Heart
Bard of Hope - Cronus Ampora
Bard of Life
Bard of Light
Bard of Mind
Bard of Rage - Gamzee Makara
Bard of Space
Bard of Time
Bard of Void
Heir of Blood
Heir of Breath - John Egbert
Heir of Doom - Mituna Captor
Heir of Heart
Heir of Hope
Heir of Life
Heir of Light
Heir of Mind
Heir of Rage
Heir of Space
Heir of Time
Heir of Void - Equius Zahhak
Knight of Blood - Karkat Vantas
Knight of Breath
Knight of Doom
Knight of Heart
Knight of Hope
Knight of Life
Knight of Light
Knight of Mind - Latula Pyrope
Knight of Rage
Knight of Space
Knight of Time - Dave Strider
Knight of Void
Lord of Blood
Lord of Breath
Lord of Doom
Lord of Heart
Lord of Hope
Lord of Life
Lord of Light
Lord of Mind
Lord of Rage
Lord of Space
Lord of Time - Caliborn/Lord English
Lord of Void
Mage of Blood
Mage of Breath
Mage of Doom - Sollux Captor
Mage of Heart - Meulin Leijon
Mage of Hope
Mage of Life
Mage of Light
Mage of Mind
Mage of Rage
Mage of Space
Mage of Time
Mage of Void
Maid of Blood
Maid of Breath
Maid of Doom
Maid of Heart
Maid of Hope
Maid of Life - Jane Crocker
Maid of Light
Maid of Mind
Maid of Rage
Maid of Space - Porrim Maryam
Maid of Time - Aradia Megido
Maid of Void
Muse of Blood
Muse of Breath
Muse of Doom
Muse of Heart
Muse of Hope
Muse of Life
Muse of Light
Muse of Mind
Muse of Rage
Muse of Space - Calliope
Muse of Time
Muse of Void
Page of Blood
Page of Breath - Tavros Nitram
Page of Doom
Page of Heart
Page of Hope - Jake English
Page of Life
Page of Light
Page of Mind
Page of Rage
Page of Space
Page of Time
Page of Void - "TBA" Zahhak
Prince of Blood
Prince of Breath
Prince of Doom - Kurloz Makara
Prince of Heart - Dirk Strider
Prince of Hope - Eridan Ampora
Prince of Life
Prince of Light
Prince of Mind
Prince of Rage
Prince of Space
Prince of Time
Prince of Void
Rogue of Blood
Rogue of Breath - "TBA" Nitram
Rogue of Doom
Rogue of Heart - Nepeta Leijon
Rogue of Hope
Rogue of Life
Rogue of Light
Rogue of Mind
Rogue of Rage
Rogue of Space
Rogue of Time
Rogue of Void - Roxy Lalonde
Seer of Blood - Kankri Vantas
Seer of Breath
Seer of Doom
Seer of Heart
Seer of Hope
Seer of Life
Seer of Light - Rose Lalonde
Seer of Mind - Terezi Pyrope
Seer of Rage
Seer of Space
Seer of Time
Seer of Void
Sylph of Blood
Sylph of Breath
Sylph of Doom
Sylph of Heart
Sylph of Hope
Sylph of Life
Sylph of Light - Aranea Serket
Sylph of Mind
Sylph of Rage
Sylph of Space - Kanaya Maryam
Sylph of Time
Sylph of Void
Thief of Blood
Thief of Breath
Thief of Doom
Thief of Heart
Thief of Hope
Thief of Life - Meenah Peixes
Thief of Light - Vriska Serket
Thief of Mind
Thief of Rage
Thief of Space
Thief of Time
Thief of Void
Witch of Blood
Witch of Breath
Witch of Doom
Witch of Heart
Witch of Hope
Witch of Life - Feferi Peixes
Witch of Light
Witch of Mind
Witch of Rage
Witch of Space - Jade Harley
Witch of Time - Damara Megido
Witch of Void
The Homestuck Mythological Role Master List (Aspect Edition)
So I tried looking for a list of every single possible pairing of Classes and Aspects in HS everywhere, but I just couldn't seem to find one, so I made two myself- one listed by Class, the other by aspect; both alphabetized. I also included canon players from the webcomic next to their roles.
And of course, I'll keep updating when we are introduced to new characters. If I forget to after a couple of days, send me an ask and I'll fix it right away.
Want the Class Edition instead?
To save space I'll just put everything under the "read more".
Bard of Blood
Heir of Blood
Knight of Blood - Karkat Vantas
Lord of Blood
Mage of Blood
Maid of Blood
Muse of Blood
Page of Blood
Prince of Blood
Rogue of Blood
Seer of Blood - Kankri Vantas
Sylph of Blood
Thief of Blood
Witch of Blood
Bard of Breath
Heir of Breath - John Egbert
Knight of Breath
Lord of Breath
Mage of Breath
Maid of Breath
Muse of Breath
Page of Breath - Tavros Nitram
Prince of Breath
Rogue of Breath - "TBA" Nitram
Seer of Breath
Sylph of Breath
Thief of Breath
Witch of Breath
Bard of Doom
Heir of Doom - Mituna Captor
Knight of Doom
Lord of Doom
Mage of Doom - Sollux Captor
Maid of Doom
Muse of Doom
Page of Doom
Prince of Doom
Rogue of Doom
Seer of Doom
Sylph of Doom
Thief of Breath
Witch of Doom
Bard of Heart
Heir of Heart
Knight of Heart
Lord of Heart
Mage of Heart - Meulin Leijon
Maid of Heart
Muse of Heart
Page of Heart
Prince of Heart - Dirk Strider
Rogue of Heart - Nepeta Leijon
Seer of Heart
Sylph of Heart
Thief of Heart
Witch of Heart
Bard of Hope - Cronus Ampora
Heir of Hope
Knight of Hope
Lord of Hope
Mage of Hope
Maid of Hope
Muse of Hope
Page of Hope - Jake English
Prince of Hope - Eridan Ampora
Rogue of Hope
Seer of Hope
Sylph of Hope
Thief of Hope
Witch of Hope
Bard of Life
Heir of Life
Knight of Life
Lord of Life
Mage of Life
Maid of Life - Jane Crocker
Muse of Life
Page of Life
Prince of Life
Rogue of Life
Seer of Life
Sylph of Life
Thief of Life - Meenah Peixes
Witch of Life - Feferi Peixes
Bard of Light
Heir of Light
Knight of Light
Lord of Light
Mage of Light
Maid of Light
Muse of Light
Page of Light
Prince of Light
Rogue of Light
Seer of Light - Rose Lalonde
Sylph of Light - Aranea Serket
Thief of Light - Vriska Serket
Witch of Light
Bard of Mind
Heir of Mind
Knight of Mind - Latula Pyrope
Lord of Mind
Mage of Mind
Maid of Mind
Muse of Mind
Page of Mind
Prince of Mind
Rogue of Mind
Seer of Mind - Terezi Pyrope
Thief of Mind
Witch of Mind
Bard of Rage - Gamzee Makara
Heir of Rage
Knight of Rage
Lord of Rage
Mage of Rage
Maid of Rage
Muse of Rage
Page of Rage
Prince of Rage - Kurloz Makara
Rogue of Rage
Seer of Rage
Sylph of Rage
Thief of Rage
Witch of Rage
Bard of Space
Heir of Space
Knight of Space
Lord of Space
Mage of Space
Maid of Space - Porrim Maryam
Muse of Space - Calliope
Page of Space
Prince of Space
Rogue of Space
Seer of Space
Sylph of Space - Kanaya Maryam
Thief of Space
Witch of Space - Jade Harley
Bard of Time
Heir of Time
Knight of Time - Dave Strider
Lord of Time - Caliborn/Lord English
Mage of Time
Maid of Time - Aradia Megido
Muse of Time
Page of Time
Prince of Time
Rogue of Time
Seer of Time
Sylph of Time
Thief of Time
Witch of Time - Damara Megido
Bard of Void
Heir of Void - Equius Zahhak
Knight of Void
Lord of Void
Mage of Void
Maid of Void
Muse of Void
Page of Void - "TBA" Zahhak
Prince of Void
Rogue of Void - Roxy Lalonde
Seer of Void
Sylph of Void
Thief of Void
Witch of Void