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Was your Firish writing system used anywhere in Elemental? Most appearances of the written language seem to use an English cipher.

If you mean did the glyphs we created ever appear, yes, they did; we saw them all over the place. Now, were they ever used to write anything specific, as opposed to just being used for decoration in random ways? That I don't know. We did send them a list of some things spelled out correctly, but I don't know if they used them. It would've been nice to do some of the things that were in focus (like an open and closed sign), but we never had any communication with the art department.

You have to understand: It's a rare thing to get to even do a writing system. On many shows/films (Game of Thrones, Thor: The Dark World, Emerald City, Paper Girls) production finds the very notion of a language having a unique writing system somewhat comical. Others (The Shannara Chronicles, Raya and the Last Dragon, Halo) find the notion that the language creator(s) would create the writing system used in the show amusing. We weren't hired to create a writing system for Elemental. We told them we could do it and they said no. We did it anyway. And after they saw it, they decided they liked it and would use it. That doesn't happen often!

So yeah, the fact that they didn't use the writing system to spell things out accurately? Not a big deal. You think everything in the background of Defiance was spelled correctly? There were dozens of pill bottles in Doc Yewll's office with over 200 words of text on them each. That was just gibberish done in the Indogene font, because, frankly, no matter how much you zoom in on those Doc Yewll scenes, you will never be able to read that writing (nor will you be able to see that what filled the pill bottles were things like oyster crackers).

(I still don't get why the art department insisted on using this script vertically. I created a script where every character is a hexagon, meaning that every single character and every single line could interlock perfectly. And then they stack them?!)

I'm honestly quite smitten with the indogene writing system, thinking about making some T-shirts for myself words and phrases. May I ask you what the indojisnen equivalent of the phrases "Love is love" and "know yourself" would look like?

So, it's been a long time, and I actually don't 100% know how to say something like "know yourself"... :( I did figure out a way to do "Love Is Love" that I like. See, for copular expressions, ordinarily you turn the noun into a verb via noun incorporation, but I like how balanced and even the expression is in English. To do that, I turned the verb love into a noun and then used a symbol I created for the = sign and put it between the two words. The word for "love" is actually suotrangguro, which breaks down to "to love an individual". You have to attach it to an actual noun in order to use the word itself.

Anyway, I went and ahead and tried to create a shirt over at our Redbubble store. Here's what it looks like:

This is the phrase "Love Is Love" translated into the Indojisnen language from Defiance. • Millions of unique designs by independent artists

You can take a look at the image and use that as a template if you'd like to create something else.

Nice suggestion!

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LangTime Studio is an independent artist creating amazing designs for great products such as t-shirts, stickers, posters, and phone cases.

Hey, for those who are interested, @quothalinguist and I have opened a RedBubble store with products featuring our LangTime Studio languages, plus some of the other languages we've created for other projects (e.g. Defiance and Dune). Take a look! There's some stuff there we're pretty proud of. :)

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Hi, David! How do you write Jasper in Irathient, Castithan and Indogene.

Here’s Castithan:

Here’s Irathient:

And here’s Indojisnen:

Thanks for the ask!

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Hey David! Just curious... I was reading through a little of the defiance master dialogue you liked to once. And I got to a sentence that I was sure was Irathient but when I I was gonna write it in the Irathient script I couldn’t. The sentence is as follows: Aargyígyu áárko rími. And everything worked out fine, until I got to the O... There is no glyph for O! What do I do? 🤔

First, in the writing system I used for the scripts, “aa” = [a] and “a” = [ǝ]. So keep that in mind. Second, you’re right, there is no glyph for “o”. There are a few different ways to get the sound [o] in Irathient:

“aal” or “al” = [o] (when followed by a consonant or end of the word)

“aaw” or “aw” = [o] (when followed by a consonant or end of the word)

“aa” or “a” = [o] (when followed by a nasal consonant which is followed by a consonant or the end of a word)

Of course, áárko is a borrowing from Castithan (which is a borrowing from Indojisnen), and those languages, of course, have natural [o] all over the place. Usually in such a circumstance Irathient will spell it “aaw”, and that is the case with the word áárko.

Thanks for the ask!

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Just thought I’d share this photo I took at the #Defiance café many years ago. :)

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I'm not gonna ask you to translate this, but can you write it in the indojisnen script?! Would be fun to see this! "Sallagwoketleka, sannahutleklakeyneka, shtaksonneka, lirishala hechaslekalajeksonneka, miglamemongufketleka, nefkitrangetleka, jomihechasjiharossita!"

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