#isat rant

[darlnyan]

this is such a late time to be talking about an isat topic considering i played the game like 2 years ago now, but. Siffrin's lack of "culture" and just assimilating into what everyone basically headcanons him to be is SO. PAINFULLY. relatable. like to the degree it hurts.

it pains me when i look at this little twerp in #myvideogam and they say (or well, try not to say, so so badly) "oh haha im totally normal about being basically forced to roleplay into fitting into a society that isnt mine. oh also btw even if, miraculously, my old society came back, and i went there, with my friends and family all back for me to meet again, i will be forever affected by the years of pretending. i will never fit in anywhere there ever again. i will never be one specific thing again. because now i share parts of myself to two wholes. and it is killing me." LIKE

watch me be soooo so so soooooo normal about how siffrin is "rejected" (i say in quotations, because the universe doesn't really respond, now does it) by the universe, time and time again, only ever gleaning a response by wish fulfilment and never guidance or help or elaboration. and how the Change God only sees them as an amusement, a sort of proof for how following the unknown without changing (aka the universe belief) is fruitless, a joke, a mockery of a real faith.

its how siffrin is left with 1) a dead husk of a god forbidden from their knowledge half the time, and 2) a god they'd been trying to humor to fit in, in his life right now, laughing at them for even trying. the whole way u can get to the Change God event is by praying, over and over, and even that solace is taken from him. its painful. its accurate to the erased cultural experience that i have experienced myself. its owie. i want that brick kissed next time bro

[pseudodragonsfics]

Can You Help Me Understand Loop?

Apologies to any Loop stans but I am struggling to like them and want to figure this out. Also warning for possible spoilers for two hats! If you don’t know that that means don’t read!

Okay, so.

I really want to like Loop. But I have a problem with the majority of Loop fics I come across and I am trying to understand why I just can't love them like I do Siffrin.

By all rights they are so much like Siffrin, but with even more trauma to the point it has changed them to be unrecognizable. I should love this! The angst potential is so good! After finishing the two hats event I did love them! I went and read so many fics with them and love some of them! I have drawn Loop just as much as Isabeau! (Siffrin will always win thought because he’s design is so fun to draw)

I am also a sucker for poly shipping and love a good thruple! Isabeau, Siffrin, and Loop together? Legendary! Concept is amazing! They make up some of my favorite fics! I also love Loop/Isabeau fics!

I think it falls apart when I get to Siffrin/Loop fics. Which I am sad about! I like them connecting to the only other person that could understand the trauma they have both been through. The angst potential is so great! And some fics hit it out of the park!

They lose me thought when they get so codependent with each other that the rest of the family fades into the background. I love Bonnie, Mrabelle, Odile, and especially Isabeau! I hate so see them become irrelevant and washed out so Siffrin and Loop can further trauma bond. Other relationships matter! I also hate when characters change and lose all their nuance when they get in a relationship. To me that is a red flag in real life and icks me out so hard, and it happens over and over in Isabeau/Siffrin/Loop fics.

I would also like to see more platonic Siffrin & Loop content as well it doesn't have to be romantic relationship! I just want to see the complexity and that applies to any kind of relationship!

I don’t need them to all be healthy and perfect but if I am reading post canon I want them to get better not worse. (Bonus points though if they get worse and then better! I swear I like angst)

They could also just be terrible for each other and make that the point! I also like a good toxic relationship that burns and hurts to read. Give me that all hurt no comfort!

But, I feel like a lot of fics are telling me the codependent duo are actually fine and so healthy! I just can’t vide with that.

Am I wrong? Am I missing something? Maybe I am just too pro Isabeau and get mad when I don’t like someone’s interpretation of him? It is possible!

I feel like I want to like them! And have in some fics! I am just frustrated that if feels like I have been coming across a lot of misses lately.

I mean same on the Isabeau boat too I just have more options with a bigger tag pool for him too.

Uuuuuggggghhhhh I should just go write out these feelings in fic huh? I just don’t think I have it in me to do a long Loop character study right now with JBIA going at the same time.

[princessish-lily]

Talking to a friend who was under (THE FALSE) impression that isabeu was my favorite isat character, and that was because of the romance stuff. BUT NO!!! I view all the characters in two different lights, one where I remember when I was Siffrin and my relationships with these characters and two as a real person with real thoughts and feelings towards this piece of media. As “Siffrin” isabeu though beloved and my rock to reality isn’t my “favorite” obviously I don’t have a favorite between my allies/friends/family don’t be silly but if I had to pick Bonnie, my kid and sibling. (And side note cause I already mentioned the others Mira is someone who understands and I could be with in a way that needed less words we loved each other and that was enough, and odile a person who I both hated and aspired to be, smart and the only one who can come close to understanding my past but also unsafe as there are no secrets that I can keep around her of course this changed to more and more positive over time after that negative dip) anywho there all beloved characters. (I don’t have time for the loop talk I apologize to you the one person reading this)

But as a person who enjoys media, the real human behind the screen, yes Isa is one of my favorites, second to the fishing one. At least most the time my favorite depends on my mood and most recent fanfic read. But isa is a character who’s funny and brave, he is everything I want to be and everything I hate about my self, he’s someone I desperately want to meet but probably only will if I take the steps to be him. Odile is brilliant and in a way far more relatable to me displayed what it’s like to be torn form your culture and surrounded by people who you don’t understand all the time, the need to know anything you can and the difficulty communicating emotionally. even more so than Siffrin was in all those regards. Mira feels like folds and reflections of people I keep meeting both help me understand my self and others that asexuality and being aromantic are normal even if I’m not both or only one, and that the struggles of what being someone everyone believes in does to someone what living a lie you didn’t choose to live means, to struggle with a religion that is central to you. Now some of that yes relatable to me but most of that helped me understand what a lot of my friends struggled with a lot more. And Bonnie who is someone I used to be that me who was so hurt and put in all on themself that me I can’t quite remember but also someone entirely different we had the same issues and we “dealt” with it the same way but that me and Bonnie are also entirely different and learning to help and communicate with Bonnie helped me communicate and help myself. And Siffrin oh boy Siffrin, this reminder that I’m not alone and all my issues no matter how odd or strange a combination I’m not alone and there’s at least someone who’s out there and understands and my family and friends even if they cat understand do care for me and will try to understand, no matter what tomorrow the sun will rise again even if it takes two years to break that time loop one day it’ll break, forgetting doesn’t mean loosing, not entirely. Love doesn’t have to be in the stupid monochrome most people see it as it can be beautiful and array of different colors. And to the one person who read all of this thank you for listening or reading I suppose and once again sorry I don’t have the time or words for loop. Have a wonderful day

[samishsam]

!spoilers for isat!

THIS MF PROBLEMS WOULD BE SOLVED SO MUCH EASIER IF THEY FUCKING TALKED TO THEIR FOUND FAMILY OMG CSJOS HVSOHCACHOAC SIFFIN

YOU’RE HURTING ME

I UNDERSTAND YOU’RE NOT EMOTIONALLY GROWN BUT LIKE OMG DUDE!! JUST TALK TO THEM OR ASK FOR A HUG P L E A S E E E !! THE ONLY HUG I CAN GIVE YOU IS THE ONE FROM BONNIES QUEST!!

OMG PLEASE!! I WOULD BE SHAKING YOU RN BUT YOU HATE TOUCH. SIFFIN BRO

AAAAAAAAAAAA

[phoenixdeleted]

ISAT RANT!! SPOILERS CAUSE IM FEELING SAD.

There is something so dreadfully painful about Siffrin never being able to get the crew to remember what happened in the loops. The only solace to anyone knowing his pain was a literal physical thing was Loop and Loop isn’t around for the afterwards and we know damn well how well Loop understood. So having to walk the rest of his life without someone to just *know* about what has happened to Siffrin must be soul crushing. Being able to talk to his friends and sometimes go “they don’t remember me as family.” Must STING. It must gut him and do it again. To lay next to his partner and watch the rising and fall of Isabeau’s chest and go “he… isn’t all mine. Is he.” It has GOT to hurt.

[magicspace119]

Alright rant time

So I just got into In Stars and Time thanks to @pillowspace putting it everywhere on my dash. I just got tired of just hearing about it so I checked it out and while I agree this is a great game and I'm pretty much just scratching the surface, I had a talk with Mirabelle today...

[Anyone who doesn't want to hear about this or doesn't want spoiled for this conversation leave now]

Her talking to me about being pressured into dating for her faith honestly took me off guard. I was not expecting to get an aromantic chosen one. I was so filled with joy to hear her express her feelings about not being interested in dating in the slightest.

I genuinely didn't think about how having this representation in a game about escaping a time loop would actually make me so much happier and while I already loved the game, I just love it so much more for that. It did not need to touch on these kinds of issues, it already has a lot going on and then Mirabelle!!!

I'll admit, I've only managed to talk to Odile and Mirabelle right now, I have no idea what Bonnie and Isabeau are gonna talk to me about (unless Isabeau is gonna finally tell me what he's been meaning to say) but just those talks are brilliant.

I really feel for Mirabelle with how she's so pressured into changing, assuming 'changing for the better' means having to go through bonding and having to forge connections she knows she won't genuinely form. It's amatonormativity explained in the context of this universe and religion.

I also really like how throughout the story, she's still been really into romance, just not when it pertains to herself. It's funny how casual her aromanticism was treated in writing her. It doesn't seem to come up at all until it actual involves her. Like how she reacted to people being conditioned from a young age to accept wearing earrings for bonding over the mission to help the frozen lover to give their earring to their partner.

This rant is getting longer than I thought it would so I'd just like to wrap it up by saying I'm so happy to hear my kind of issues coming from a game I just happened to hear about and started playing.

[magicspace119]

@pillowspace this trauma is on you. How dare you introduce a masterpiece game onto my dash