#jane.pdf

[nekropsii]

I hate homestuck 2 so fucking much I genuinely hate it like nothing else Jane and dirk were victims of LE/HIC and it really spits in the fucking face of that fact. Like oh my god they were groomed 16 year olds thats the whole POINT theyre not SUPERVILLAINS. If you td me homestuck 2 was written by caliborn himself id fucking believe you. God its so fucking bad.

Honestly, this is doing Caliborn a disservice. At least when Caliborn writes retellings, it’s fucking hilarious in it’s awfulness. He isn’t exactly known as a writer of what I like to call misery porn.

Agreed on the victimhood aspect, though. It’s so cruel to Dirk and Jane as characters for no particular reason. I know with Dirk in particular it felt like such a huge slap in the face to make him a villain- after all, his entire function as a character was… You know, being deathly afraid of becoming a bad person? Fighting against becoming anything like Bro? Ult!Dirk is exhibiting Vriska behavior with his fear of irrelevance. Not Dirk behavior. I think Dirk would want nothing more than to just have a quiet existence. From my knowledge, anyway. Then again, I’m no expert on ult!Dirk or Dirk in general, that’s more @falsehood-rising’s job. (Give him a follow.)

Jane, too… Poor fucking Jane… She didn’t deserve the treatment she got. She’s literally just a normal teenage girl who’s been through some shit and was forcefully fed propaganda her whole life. I don’t know why they made her basically just a racist republican turbovillain. It’s such a far fall from grace for her. Why is she a confed… :(

[nekropsii]

i'm curious abt your opinion on a character, but i completely understand if you simply don't want to answer. what's your take on jane crocker, possibly including the direction her character is taking in hs^2?

i personally don't read hs^2, and i'll readily admit it's been a while since i delved into the original text, but from what i can remember & have seen it seems like her character has taken a Hard turn into heartless bastard - at the very least, like the writers wanted a new clear villain and she was simply the easiest to explain away as to why she'd be evil, doubled with the opinion that (seemingly) a lot of the fandom held that she should've died with Condy, or at least that everyone would be better off without her around. but idk if thats Just Me or not, which is why i'm asking you! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think the idea that Jane is an evil bitch who should die because all of her friends would be happier without her is the result of a quite frankly disgusting amount of misogyny. Jane isn’t evil, she’s literally just a normal fucking girl. I’ve met so many people just like her in personality. She’s a normal fucking 16 year old girl and people cannot be normal about her ever.

The way HS^2 handled women in general is appalling. I don’t give a damn whether you like it or not. There is such a shocking lack of care or regard to women, especially any woman that doesn’t fill their sudden new role of selfish and evil, that I’m surprised I don’t see it talked about more often. It’s so obvious not only in the handling of Jane, but in the handling of Jade, and so on. The writers kind of just fucking hate the women of Homestuck.

I don’t really agree that she’s the easiest to explain away as far as “becoming evil” goes. Making Jane evil is antithetical to her entire character arc, and making Jane fucking racist literally doesn’t even make sense. Her whole character arc was basically just overcoming the roles and expectations placed on her and being her own person, and the troll racism straight up makes zero god damn sense because she never had a problem with them to begin with. It’s a complete slap in the face to her character.

Then again, just about every character’s portrayal in HS^2 is at least a bit of a slap in the face to the character in question. It’s a bad fanfiction thematically and literally, though, so what do you expect? It’s not really worth your time. Just don’t bother reading it. Reread the actual comic instead, if you want more Homestuck. Maybe even Paradox Space. The sheer amount of people that completely jumped ship from the fandom because of The Epilogues/HS^2 is fucking astounding. It really ruined a lot of characters for a lot of people.