#jed order

[gffa]

I just read Anakin and Obi Wan, and...Obi Wan wanted to leave the order with Anakin?? I'm crying. This is beautiful D:

I KNOW, IT’S SUCH A FANTASTIC MOMENT, BECAUSE IT SAYS SO MUCH ABOUT OBI-WAN AS A CHARACTER.Obi-Wan Kenobi is someone who whole-heartedly loves the Jedi Order and their teachings, he was a Jedi through and through, even when his people and culture were genocided to extinction.  It was what gave him his strength during those long years on Tatooine, it was what gave his life structure and purpose and meaning.Obi-Wan Kenobi loves being a Jedi, he believes in the principles they teach, and that that’s what allowed him to rise above everything that happened.Yet, at the same time, he understands and respects that there are choices outside of the Jedi, that even he himself could walk those paths, which doesn’t impact his love for the Jedi one bit.Even as far back as Episode I, the very first movie with Obi-Wan (you know what I mean) has him willing to train Anakin without Yoda’s approval, which clearly implied that he was willing to leave the Jedi Order to do it, given that he didn’t know the Council had already agreed to his request.He recognized, for all that he loved the Jedi and finds strength in what they’ve taught him, he can walk away if he must.And then there’s Satine, that he would have left for her when he was younger.

This is someone who knows this very clearly about himself.  Yes, things have changed since back then, he has others to think of now–the duty he has to the galaxy now that there are so many more people in danger from the war, that need saving that he can help with, that he still wants to be there for Anakin to help guide him, that he wants to be there to also help support Ahsoka.And then there’s several years into training Anakin, where Obi-Wan is willing to go with Anakin, if that’s what he chooses:

“If Anakin leaves the Order… then I must leave it as well.”Obi-Wan supports the Jedi, he lives his life according to their culture, he finds light and purpose and solace in it.  But one of the most core values of the Jedi is teaching what they’ve learned.Yoda says it to Luke, way back in Return of the Jedi, to pass on what he’s learned.Obi-Wan says it in The Clone Wars movie, that teaching is a privilege and important to the Jedi.The very first The Clone Wars episode is about Yoda teaching clones and both Dave Filoni and Henry Gilroy talk about how that was important to put in there, because teaching was so central to the character.I LOVE THIS MOMENT because it’s a theme with Obi-Wan, that he was willing to walk away from the Order that he so loved, not because he disagreed with them on a foundational level, not because he didn’t want to be a Jedi, but because he recognized that sometimes there were things that were more important for him personally.That he has always been willing to walk away for the people he loves, even if he would rather stay.  Not away from the Jedi Order, but to those people, for them.BECAUSE HE LOVED EVERY PERSON HE WAS WILLING TO WALK TOWARDS AND KNEW THAT WASN’T A BAD PATH, IF THAT’S WHERE FATE TOOK HIM, EVEN AS HE LOVED THE JEDI SO MUCH.Like, that’s WHY it means so much, because Obi-Wan Kenobi LOVED THE JEDI and to be willing to give that up, to make that sacrifice, tells us just how important it was.

[padawanlost]

Something that really creeps me out about the republic (and the Jedi) is how they treat children like adults. Ashoka is given the title of commander despite the fact that she's a teenager and the court was willing to consider the death penalty when she was being framed. We also saw Boba Fett in prison with a bunch of adults when obi-wan went undercover as a bounty hunter. that's messed up

Same here. Although I think it’s more of a Jedi problem than aRepublic one. I mean, I do think the Republic is to blame too but inthose cases the Jedi ideology is at the heart of the problem.

The Jedi do not raise children, they raise Jedi. Younglings arenot treated as children, they are treated as less prepared Jedi.There’s no real childhood for them. From the moment they are arriveat the temple the preparation begins for them to become Jedi. Thereare lessons, life-threating adventures, physical training, fighting,pressure to chosen by a masters etc. There’s no evidence of games, nospace for self-discovery or no room for mistakes.

Having a padawan is less like raising a teenager and more liketraining someone for a job. The Jedi know how to handle “tiny Jedi”and not children. That’s probably why they were all so ill-equippedto deal with Anakin (a real child/teenager, not a Jedi).  And that’swhy they had no problem with sending teenagers to the war zone,because – in their eyes – they are not teenagers. They are Jediapprentices and nothing more.

The Jedi inability to recognize a child (and its needs) blindedthem to all children, specially young clones. The fact they workedwell with clones doesn’t change the fact they saw them as property ofthe Republic. So in their mind, like any other clone, Boba Fett notonly wasn’t a “real” child, he was  also originally property ofthe Republic. Plus, the Jedi had  control of the clone army andprisoners, and if you add that to the fact Bobba had a vendettaagainst the Jedi it’s no wonder they had no trouble putting him withthe adults. I doubt they would even understand why it was so wrong.

Let’s be honest, the Jedi were okay with sending a nine years oldback to slavery. They were okay with sending the same nine years oldto a war zone. They were okay  letting a 14 years old queen lead anbattle to reclaim her planet without offering any extra help. Theywere okay with their children being hunted for sport, okay executinga teenager, etc. The council was so self-absorved they had no longercared who they sacrificed for the sake of the Jedi Order.