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Recently discovered that Frozen is actually Sense & Sensibility (and ice)
SENSE AND SENSIBILITY (1995) dir. ang lee
Jane Austen: Lucy, Robert Ferrars enters the room, his expression stony.
Anne Steele: *loudly munching her snacks* how stony? Can I roll to see how stony his expression is?
John Willoughby: you are not even in the room!
Anne Steele: but I want to see the drama!
Jane Austen: “Miss Steele, since my brother has definitely lost his mind I find myself in the regrettable position to ask you to keep yours: leave him free to fullfill his obligations, and stop this foolishness once for all”.
Lucy Steele: can I make an Investigation Check to understand how much he believes what he says?
Jane Austen: sure.
Lucy Steele: that’s an eighteen.
Jane Austen: good, good-he is absolutely sincere in finding the whole situation absurd, but he is also very entertained by the idea that his brother has fallen from grace for someone like you; he is delighted by the chaos and he thinks the outcome is going to favour him.
Lucy Steele: *slowly* he might not be wrong.
Lucy Steele: I tell him that Edward has to fullfill his obligations towards me, that I am not going back on my word, no matter how many times he will try to change my mind. But, I would not mind seeing him again, since I cannot hope to see his sister or his mother, that I miss terribly, and I feel so lonely without Edward.
Anne Steele: wait-
John Willoughby: are you trying to seduce him? Your dear heart’s brother?!
Jane Austen: *without breaking a sweat* roll for Deception, you need at least a forty.
Anne Steele: *wheeze* that’s high, even with your ridiculously high Charisma!
Jane Austen: his family hates her and he thinks she is beneath him, so-
Lucy Steele: *flatly* Natural Twenty.
John Willoughby: WHAT?
Anne Steele: WHAT?!
Lucy Steele: and I have twenty at Charisma, plus five. I did not sacrifice my Intelligence for nothing, you know.
John Willoughby: *shakes his head incredulously*
Jane Austen: *pause*
Anne Steele: you broke her! Oh my, you broke her!
Jane Austen: okay! Great! He tells you he will come back and talk more about Edward.
Lucy Steele: *smirks* sure.
Jane Austen: And he scurries away, under the weight of that Natural Twenty! Dear God!
John Willoughby: *sputtering* Edward is scrambling to make a living for you!
Lucy Steele: he is doing that.
Anne Steele: *cackling* his family has forsaken him in every way because of you!
Lucy Steele: they are doing that, aren’t they?
John Willoughby: he still thinks you are going to marry him!
Lucy Steele: *faux surprise* oh my gosh! Poor thing! I will write him a letter after the wedding.
2025 books - sense and sensibility by jane austen To wish was to hope, and to hope was to expect.
I've spent all of the love I saved We were always a losing game Small-town girl in a big arcade I got addicted to a losing game
Ooh, ooh All I know, all I know Loving you is a losing game
So during the confession to Elinor in Ch 44 of Sense & Sensibility, Willoughby says this:
“To have resisted such attractions, to have withstood such tenderness! Is there a man on earth who could have done it? Yes, I found myself, by insensible degrees, sincerely fond of her; and the happiest hours of my life were what I spent with her when I felt my intentions were strictly honourable, and my feelings blameless. Even then, however, when fully determined on paying my addresses to her, I allowed myself most improperly to put off, from day to day, the moment of doing it, from an unwillingness to enter into an engagement while my circumstances were so greatly embarrassed. I will not reason here—nor will I stop for you to expatiate on the absurdity, and the worse than absurdity, of scrupling to engage my faith where my honour was already bound. The event has proved, that I was a cunning fool, providing with great circumspection for a possible opportunity of making myself contemptible and wretched for ever. At last, however, my resolution was taken, and I had determined, as soon as I could engage her alone, to justify the attentions I had so invariably paid her, and openly assure her of an affection which I had already taken such pains to display. But in the interim—in the interim of the very few hours that were to pass, before I could have an opportunity of speaking with her in private—a circumstance occurred—an unlucky circumstance, to ruin all my resolution, and with it all my comfort...."
When I first read the novel, I took this at face value and thought, "He would have proposed for sure," but now I read it and I have to wonder, he already had so much opportunity, I wonder if he would have bitten the bullet, given how much debt he was in at the time. So what do you think?
If Eliza had not been discovered, would Willoughby have proposed to Marianne?
Yes, he would have that day
Yes, eventually
No, the threat of poverty was too strong
No, for another reason
I'm not sure, but it would have been a disaster if he did
Important note: I do believe that Willoughby loved Marianne, 100%, but love was not enough to conquer his greed or make him willing to suffer the consequences of his own actions. Selfishness won, but that doesn't mean the love didn't exist.
I've seen people say that Willoughby is the worst Jane Austen villain because his actions resulted in the birth of an innocent child and the abandonment of said child and his mother. While I don't disagree with with this, I have to point that Lydia Bennet could just have easily ended up with the same fate as Colonel Brandon's ward. She was could easily have been pregnant by the time Darcy found her and Wickham and the only reason Wickham didn't abandoned her and married her instead was because of Darcy's intervention. If Darcy hadn't intervened, we all know Wickham would have abandoned her and you really think he would have cared if Lydia had his child? So, really Wickham is just as bad as Willoughby and by saying that Willoughby is worse, I feel like we're slightly awarding Wickham for Darcy's actions.
Sense and Sensibility 1995 ‧ Dir. Ang Lee
