Hey this is Amy here ,i have to ask why John didn't like other people helping him. Does sth happend to him before or he was just traumatized .
Hey Amy!!!
Oh, if I recall correctly, it's never been explicitly stated in BBC Sherlock; I think context clues point to him possibly being abused (at least emotionally) in his past, and possibly his low self esteem making him believe he isn't WORTH saving / helping. Context clues point to him always being the responsible one while his sister wasn't, which then followed him to his chosen career as both a doctor AND a soldier (both dedicated to "helping people" in the basest sense) and making rank of a captain AND being proclaimed as a "very good" doctor? Well, then, yeah, it's understandable why he feels he has to be able to handle things on his own.
And it's also how many of us read John's character, so I think that idea is also primarily fanon, but has a lot of good reason to exist as "fact".
I personally think it's a combination of all the above, plus his own trauma / PTSD from the war and losing a lot of people under his watch, so I think that he genuinely may have a bit of a saviour complex in that sense.
One of the things l love so much about BBC John is just how complex of a character he is, and how Martin portrays his character on screen. A LOT of those context clues I mentioned are STRICTLY by the way Martin portrays John, and quite frankly, it's brilliant.
Sorry I'm not much help other than this, Lovely!
I welcome some other thoughts if y'all have them! <3
At long last, it is finally time to publish this meta! I adore TSOT and its intricate flower subtext (I already wrote two pieces about it: x, x). As we’ll explore in this analysis, it is fascinating to see how much the flowers associated with James Sholto can tell us about him and his link with John.
First of all, I find it quite striking to note that James Sholto is always presented surrounded by flowers and nature. Admittedly, TSOT is a very flowery episode, but:
John and Sholto warmly greet each other in the flowery reception hall and its nature-inspired wallpaper,
Sholto’s room is covered by the most flowery wallpaper (and I will point out what a fascinating choice of pattern it is),
Sherlock and John discuss James “former commander/ex” Sholto in a park (surrounded by grass with sparse daisies),
there are paintings of flowers hanging in the hall while John, Sherlock and Mary try to save Sholto.
This character is constantly associated with nature and flowers, which serves to convey an intricate subtext.
So let us embark on an exploration of this flowery subtext!
The wallpaper in Sholto’s room
On the wallpaper in Sholto’s room, we can observe a pattern including:
I will start to focus on each symbol, before trying to combine their meanings.
A) Pink forget-me-not:
The flower symbolises the reminder of an old flame, as well as moments spent with a loved one you don’t want to forget. The flower represents a strong connection lasting through time. It conveys the remembrance of a true and undying love during partings or after death and highlights fidelity and loyalty in a relationship despite separation or challenges.
(personal hypothesis => typically, forget-me-nots would be blue, so using pink ones as a pattern for Sholto’s room reinforces the romantic/sentimental symbolism)
So: reminder of an old flame, remembrance of true, albeit forsaken, love.
I will not try to hide my belief that John and Sholto shared an intense relationship. To me, the entire episode establishes James Sholto as John’s former lover, and creates multiple parallels between Sherlock and Sholto. Sherlock’s words “we would never do that to John Watson”, which confirms Sholto’s assertion that they “are similar”, combined with Sholto’s pained expression reflected in a mirror is pretty damning in itself.
Having Sholto surrounded with walls of pink forget-me-nots (as he’s about to die... and will be saved by John) strengthens this implication. Actually, the very first image we see of Sholto is surrounded by this wallpaper (combined with a parallel between Sherlock and Sholto putting their uniform on, going “into battle”). Therefore, it seems both men are assimilated to “old flames”, men who face separation from their loved one as they witness John marring someone else. They both stay loyal to John through this difficult parting (And as the story unfurls, John ends up saving the lives of both men, aka their hearts, in series 3).
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Incidentally, Sholto is not the only person associated with pink forget-me-nots in series three. Mary wears a pink forget-me-not necklace during the confrontation scene. I already explored the connection between Sholto and Mary via the flower. To sum it up, my belief is that Sholto and John shared an intense relationship, but it left John heart-broken with even more trust issues. To me, through the forget-me-not, Sholto and Mary are linked as two lovers who have betrayed John, his love and his trust, disappointed him and/or left him heart-broken.
Of course, now that TAB came out, we have another association with the forget-me-not: The Bride. “Do not forget me...”. The Bride is strongly linked to Mary (... the bride) and Moriarty. I personally think that we can discard Sholto for this connection (although imagining Sholto in a wedding dress seeking revenge for John’s potential past misbehaviours is quite tempting). Interestingly, it won’t be the only link with Moriarty & Mary in this room.
B) Oak leaves:
In the Victorian language of flowers, oak leaves mean bravery.
The oak is a symbol of strength and endurance. A tree highly revered for its size and longevity. It is also associated with honour, stability and wisdom.
Oak leaves are strongly linked to military traditions. In Antiquity, victorious officers were offered oak-leaf crowns to honour a successful campaign. The tradition extends today, for example with the US army using the oak leaf as a symbol for some of their decoration.
(Also, oaks tend to be very good shelters, such as Major Oak, a large English oak tree, very popular, which is said to have sheltered Robin Hood and his merry men, or Royal Oak, the saviour of King Charles II)
Other interesting associations with oak leaves:
The Royal Float Auxiliary counted two ships named Oakleaf, one of which served as a “dummy battleship” to imitate HSM Iron Duke. This strongly reminded me of John playing the “dummy” for Sherlock in HLV, as well as Sholto’s role in TSOT, mirroring Sherlock’s feelings in a more intense manner.
The oakleaf is a type of butterfly, an insect favoured by Mary (once again). Its wings are shaped like leaves, so there is an implication of hiding, camouflage.
C) Shamrock:
The shamrock is the symbol of Ireland. To me, the obvious association with Ireland found in BBC Sherlock is Moriarty (especially if you consider the waterfall painting). It has been debated whether Moriarty actually planned for Sholto to be killed at John’s wedding, acting as a consulting criminal for Jonathan Small.
The shamrock could represent the fact that Moriarty is looming over the wedding, maybe through his allies: Mary, Tom or Janine?
Additionally, the shamrock is a symbol of the trinity. And I find it incredibly interesting, as it is a concept which is repeatedly associated with the wedding => the engagement ring is a three-stone ring (symbol of the trinity), "my husband is three people", the whole episode is entitled “the sign of three”, which features multiple love triangles (TSOT introduces Sherlock/John/Sholto, John/Sherlock/Janine, Greg/Molly/Tom, and confirms Sherlock/John/Mary). Plus, TSOT presents three love interests of John Watson’s life.
(Personal hypothesis linked with the concept of trinity => in John’s heart, Sholto = faith; Mary = hope; Sherlock = love?)
D) The wallpaper symbolism
On the wallpaper, we have a pattern of a pink forger-me-not surrounded by oak leaves and crowned with a shamrock.
The pink forger-me-not strongly implies that James Sholto is a former romantic interest of John. Even if the two men are now estranged, John and Sholto still share a connection to this past (the flower is a symbol of remembrance).
Oak leaves surround the flower, which might suggest that the notion of strength/resilience applies to this “remembrance of an old flame” as much as Sholto himself. Obviously the character is strong, resilient, focused on honour and has ties with the military. But it would make sense that the “reminder of an old flame” is very strong for Sholto (and probably John) on this particular day. He’s seeing his former love interest marry another person, is about to die at the wedding if not for the terrible thought of causing John pain. From John’s perspective, the audience witnesses how much of an eager admirer he still is of James Sholto - he speaks of him with similar expressions and fondness as he does for Sherlock, and he seems very enthusiastic, touched even, to see him again.
A shamrock is crowning the pattern (“and honey, you should see me in a crown”). Combined with the waterfall painting and the forget-me-not’s association with the Bride, it hints at Moriarty’s presence around Sholto. However, the shamrock is tiny in comparison to the other elements of the pattern. It may be a sign that Moriarty is involved in Sholto’s attempted murder, but, as we know, he failed. (Since Sholto is Sherlock’s mirror, it might also represent Sherlock’s fear of Moriarty, his other deep anxiety we know of, on this distressing day).
Furthermore, it is striking to observe that this pattern is composed by three elements, one of which is related to the concept of trinity. Once again, the wedding is connected to the number three. It is even more remarkable when you note that in the “saving Sholto” scene, John is surrounded by three persons - or, three love interests -: Sholto, Mary and Sherlock.
The wallpaper pattern could apply to all three of them =>
Sherlock -> Sholto’s mirror. He could be considered an old flame at the wedding, and we see both he and John celebrate (/pre-emptively mourn) their relationship in this episode. Sherlock is strong and resilient, as is his remembrance of the apparently lost romantic bond with John as they have to part. Moriarty and The Bride are looming over him (do not forget them), in connection to this precarious love situation with John.
Mary -> linked with the forget-me-not in HLV. She is strong and resilient. The shamrock might be a sign that Moriarty is looming over her, threatening her wedding and her stability with John; or it could imply that Mary (the bride) is tied to Moriarty (The Bride), maybe working together. I have theorised before that Moriarty and Mary might have been romantically involved, which pairs nicely with the pattern: reminder of an old flame, tied to Ireland, while someone dies at her wedding...
Sholto’s armchair
Sholto’s armchair is adorned with colourful lotus.
In the Victorian language of flowers, the lotus is a symbol of estranged love. It is rather interesting to note the correlation with the meaning of the forget-me-not. Sholto is already associated with two symbols of old flames, of forsaken/estranged love.
The lotus is also linked with the symbolism of the cycle, as it closes each night and blooms with the daylight. It is tied to the cycle of life/death/rebirth.
I find this idea engaging, as Sholto is between life and death when he sits down in the armchair. He has decided to accept his fate, until Sherlock, his mirror, reminds him the importance of John's feelings. It is then that Sholto chooses life, effectively going through the whole cycle.
Additionally, I believe that the idea of cycle is quite relevant in an episode which introduces John's successive love interests (Sholto, Sherlock, Mary) and presents multiple love triangles. Sholto is the oldest intense relation we know from John's life. But his position in John's heart belongs to the past: after a traumatic event (John being shot in Afghanistan, or perhaps a traumatic break up), Sholto left room to another man in an armchair (Sherlock), followed by Mary after another traumatic event (Sherlock's "death"). We know Mary's position in John's heart will change due to a traumatic event (Mary shooting Sherlock - or, depending on how you see things, Mary's death) (I had written this before s4 xD). The triumphant relationship presented in the episode is doomed to fail. The cycle will continue.
The lotus is also a symbol of purity and spirituality.
In a spirit of comprehensiveness: the lotus also makes me think of the Black Lotus in TBB. I probably wouldn’t have mentioned it if not for the other ties to Moriarty in the room.
Saving Sholto - flowers in the corridor
A) The yellow flowers in the staircase
We only see this flower when our heroes are striving to save Sholto, a scene when the connections between Sherlock and Sholto are more explicit than ever.
I believe the yellow flowers in the staircase to be yellow acacia (also known as mimosa). In the Victorian language of flowers, the yellow acacia is a symbol of “secret love”; the acacia in general being associated with concealed love.
Once again, we observe that Sholto is linked with the concept of love. It becomes a pattern that this love is concealed, secret, forsaken, estranged. I think it’s rather telling about John and Sholto’s relationship. These flowers hint at a secret love shared in the past, now estranged (as we know from their exchanges; John hasn’t seen where Sholto lives and so on).
Also interesting: in this scene, Sherlock and Sholto are linked more explicitly than ever. Thus to me, this idea of concealed, secret love, now forsaken, extends to John and Sherlock’s relationship. As a matter of fact, it is the heart of the episode that Sherlock has to let John go and witness as he marries another person. The concept of a secret love he has to give up makes sense.
On a more positive note, I’ve learned that acacia blossoms can mean “beauty in retirement”, which I find quite satisfying as regards to Sholto’s future (as well as Sherlock and John’s? Growing old in Sussex, producing acacia honey...).
(I am pretty sure the yellow flowers are acacia, but in a spirit of fairness: they might be goldenrods? Goldenrods mean “be cautious” -> which would also tie well with the spirit of the scene.. and, I would argue, the wedding. It also delivers a message of encouragement -> and we indeed see John and Sherlock encouraging Sholto to choose life)
B) The flower painting
Looming behind our trio, we see a painting with flowers. These flowers are, I believe, sunflowers. This is the second time sunflowers are seen in TSOT: Molly's dress has a pattern with this flower.
The sunflower is a symbol of admiration, appreciation and loyalty. Look at them radiating behind John as he’s about to save Sholto :)
Of course, sunflowers are a representation of the sun; as we know, John is strongly associated with the sun in the show.
Just like the lotus, the sunflower is linked to the notion of cycles. It reinforces the idea of the life/death/rebirth cycle which Sholto is going through in this scene.
I would also argue that, as Sholto chooses life, we can see the renewal of these two’s past affection and relationship. John’s words, "I believe I am your doctor", remind me of the first assertion of his position in Sherlock’s life from the pilot "I'm his doctor/Only a fool argues with his doctor". New beginnings. It is, I think, a strong assertion of affection for John and Sholto (and Sherlock recognises it). Sholto states he is “in need of medical attention”, of John’s attention, and John provides it, highlighting that he is his doctor. He ends up saving Sholto’s heart.
(Side note: it is extremely gratifying to see John fully embraced and celebrated as a doctor, both by Sholto and Sherlock in his speech; especially considering that he previously had to fight for recognition as a doctor in front of Major Reed. John’s identity as a doctor is paramount to him, and you can see how painful it is for him when this part of him is attacked). ((Now consider the “are you really a doctor????” scene from TLD))
Other side note: the sunflower was Oscar Wilde’s favourite flower. I don’t think it’s particularly relevant to the scene, but it’s always nice to point out.
Maybe more relevant to this scene => in Greek mythology, after losing her beloved Apollo (= the Sun God), who abandoned her for another woman, the water nymph Clytie mourned his departure, refusing food or water. After 9 days, she transformed into a sunflower, keeping her face longingly turned towards the sun to see her beloved’s course. Again, the myth is a painful reminder to Sherlock’s situation. The man has to see his beloved (the Sun, aka John) abandon him for another woman (Mary). When John finds Sherlock again, he is in a drug den, longingly hoping for John’s return.
Conclusion: Sholto and flowers
When one analyses the flowers associated with Sholto, a pattern seems to emerge:
Sholto as a character is connected to positive notions => bravery, strength, resilience, fondness, adoration...
A number of flowers are associated with the concept of love. This love is secret, concealed, forsaken, estranged. I find it extremely telling about John’s relationship with James Sholto. To me, it is a sign that the two were involved romantically, most probably in a secret affair. At the very least, they both had romantic feelings for each other and kept it silent. The flowery subtext makes it clear to me that James Sholto is a lost love from John’s past.
There are a few ties with the notion of cycle. It makes sense to Sholto’s journey as he faces death, then revival. Additionally, it is also linked with the idea of John and Sholto reaffirming their bond and connecting once more (“I am your doctor”), especially in a room full of forget-me-nots -> remembrance, reconnection to the past. To me, the notion of cycle also implies the cycle of John’s loves -> Sholto from the past, Mary in the present, but the cycle will continue.
Sholto and Sherlock are mirrors, which means that the flowery subtext which applies to Sholto also applies to Sherlock. Remembrance of a past flame, staying loyal through hardships, secret love, eventual reconnection...
There are hints that Moriarty looms over Sholto at the wedding.
Pink forget-me-nots link Sholto and Mary in the confrontation scene -> remembrance of past loves. Potentially hinting at a betrayal of John’s trust on James’ part? Or maybe his sense of emotional safety broken by James?
Feel free to share your thoughts/remarks on the subject with me! And never hesitate to correct me on the identification of flowers: it is not my speciality, so even if I do my research, I might get things wrong.
And as always: take care. Sending you warm, flowery thoughts!
tagging a few lovely people who might be interested in this piece => @sarahthecoat, @fivefeetfangirl, @tremendousdetectivetheorist, @isitandwonder
Do you know why John and Mary decided to spend their first Christmas as a MARRIED COUPLE with Sherlocks family instead of, you know, one of theres??
John and Mary hadn’t seen each other in the months leading up to Christmas (cause of the events of hlv) so I dont think they were planing on spending Christmas together in the first place if it werent for Sherlock inviting them there.
“Mary” doesnt have an actual family besides whatever kind of fucked up “family” A.G.R.A. is, which wouldn’t exactly make for a jolly Christmas diner.
John’s family, on the other hand, is more complicated. We know of his sister Harry but he isnt close with anyone in his family. It’s speculated that John saw Harry being treated badly by their parents because of her sexuality and repressed his own feelings because of this. His father could have also been an alcoholic like Harry. John shows signs of alcohol abuse especially when he represses his emotions.
Also, the show is like really Gay so they needed to make it obvious that John and “Mary” aint happy together and that John would rather be with Sherlock. Plus we got that nice Johnlock mirror with Sherlock’s parents, the “great example of married life”.
HEY HEY HEY! I'm curious: did the show ever tell why john got enlisted in the army? I don't remember anymore, and I'm trying to write a fic with soldier!John.
Hi Nonny!!
AHhh, no! At least not in BBC Canon, it was never stated why he joined the army. I think the popular fanon consensus was because of his father, either as an escape from the abuse or to "prove" that he was "a man" after Harry came out, and then to hide his own bisexuality. And based primarily on his reactions to authority we see on the show.
Personally I think it was because he wanted to escape the chaos of his home life, and becoming a soldier makes him strong, and doctor makes him a healer. Basically, wanting to fix things with strength.
Really, though, Nonny, there is no right answer, so please write your Soldier John fic however you want!! And please send it my way after, so I can promote it!
hi , i wish to get some clarification of the statement " john lost his mother " is this cannon or just fannon ?
Hi Lovely!
Ah, I don't believe it's actually stated canonically either in the show nor the blog posts. I believe it's completely fanon. I think it's lightly implied that John either doesn't have a relationship with his parent or they're dead given that there is never an interaction with them on his blog nor did they (as far as we're aware) show up to his wedding.
I personally believe that they're both dead, or at least both the Watson siblings are estranged from them given their sexualities.
First of all, I apologize for my last ask sounding so dry (at least, in my opinion, it's been nagging at my brain for a couple of days :,D)
Second of all, do you have any fics where John's past is discussed/discovered/mentioned ?? I find his character really interesting, and the lack of backstory outside of Afghanistan (and even then there's little info) drives me up the wall. So yeah.
Bye and tnx :))
HI LOVELY!
NO Don't apologize!!! I did find your last ask, I haven't published it yet... I was putting it aside because I'm not sure if I'm making a fic list out of it or not, I have to check my backlog of lists!! Nothing personal, don't feel bad, at all, please, I like request asks!
As for John's past, here are some lists you might enjoy:
Past Jolto (Nov 2019)
John’s Homophobic Past (COMMUNITY RECS)
John’s Childhood (COMM RECS)
Army-Related John Fics (Sept 2020)
BAMF and/or Soldier John (July 2020)
Sorry I don't have many lists currently, and I don't have a lot of fics for a new list yet, but here's what is on it right now:
The Skin Over My Heart by standbygo (E, 8,849 w., 1 Ch. || Post-Hiatus, Fake Relationship, Case Fic, Dog Tags, Military, Homophobia, Gay Bashing, POV First Person Sherlock, Friends to Lovers, First Kiss / Time, Declarations of Love, Undercover, Haircuts, Flashbacks, Touching, Pining Sherlock, Hospitalization, Metaphors, Introspection, Hand Jobs, On the Couch, John’s Past, Angst with Happy Ending) – Sherlock and John are still trying to adjust to Sherlock's return from his hiatus when John's friend Bill Murray brings them a case. Someone is targeting the LGBTQA+ members of Bill's unit. John and Sherlock go undercover at the unit, but when they end up having to flirt to flush out the suspect, Sherlock realizes he's in over his head.
Rupert Street by WritingOutLoud (M, 27,262 w., 9 Ch. || Alternate First Meeting || Case Fic, Sexuality, Demisexual Sherlock, Drugging, Smart John, Sherlock Has Internalized Biphobia, Fluff, Angst with Happy Ending, Gay Bar, Flirting, John Manipulates Sherlock to Eat, John Deduces, Arguments, Kidnapping/Torture, Hospitalization, John Whump) – Discharged from the war with nothing but the clothes on his back and a realisation of his bisexuality, John Watson has to learn who he’s become. He can’t afford London on an army pension, but the city is the only friend he has. In an effort to understand his newfound queer identity, he heads to a bar one night, where he stumbles across a mysterious stranger who turns his life upside down. ‘I dug around inside myself, and I'm not quite sure what I found, but it was beautiful and terrifying all at the same time.’
Bakers with Benefits by Raina_at (E, 88,130 w., 14 Ch. || Great British Bake Off AU || Strangers to Lovers, Switchlock, Friends with Benefits, Mentions of Alcoholism / Past Drug Use, Banter, Flirting, Fluff, Light Angst, Semi-Public Sex, Past Sherlock/Victor, Mutual Pining, POV Sherlock, Obsessive Sherlock, John’s Bum) – Sherlock Holmes has a successful YouTube baking channel, but what he really wants is his own bakery. When an old friend sends him a call for the very first Great British Bake Off, he seizes the opportunity to finally win a sponsor for his bakery. Here's the plan: Win Bake Off, get the bakery, don't fall in love with the handsome Army doctor at the neighbouring station. Easy.
Radioactive Trees In A Red Forest by Maribor_Petrichor (E, 280,251 w., 73 Ch. || PODFIC AVAILABLE || Post-S4, Suicidal Ideations, Alcohol / Rx Drug Abuse, Coming Out / Bisexual John, Seizures, Past/Referenced/Implied Child Abuse, Hallucinations, Rehab, Celibacy, Sobriety / Relapse, Slow Burn, Friends to Lovers, Grief/Mourning, Psychological Trauma, Nice /Not Anti-Mary, John’s POV, Parentlock, First Time, Angst, Switchlock, Angst with Happy Ending) – John Watson is what happens when a man can no longer see a reason to go on. John Watson is what happens when a man starts to let go. "It is what it is." John Watson is what happens when what "it is" becomes too much to bear. This is a story of the life, death, and resurrection of John Hamish Watson. (TO READ)
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I welcome other fics to add to the main list when it's done!! I'm currently going through and trying to remember which fics I've read that deal with it :P
I just came across one of your posts from last year talking about John's sexuality and saw that you also think he had a thing for Lestrade - AND THANK GOD I'M NOT ALONE IN THIS - could you elaborate a little more about these two? I'd love to read your views on them.
Thanks in advance💚💚
(referencing this post)
Hey Lovely!
Oh gosh it's been so long since I've thought about this that I genuinely don't remember my initial readings when I made that statement, but I do feel that it holds some truth to it. I'll try my best to organize my thoughts. It's been a long time since I've rewatched all the series so I'm just working on my memory here, so my apologies for any inaccuracies and inconsistencies I may make.
Okay, so my read on John is that I think at the beginning of the series he IS aware that he is bisexual, but because of his past he has quite a bit of internalized homophobia with his own attraction to men. It's something he struggles with, especially since he seems to form stronger romantic bonds with men than women. But because of his internalized homophobia, John "chooses" to "front-face" with a hetero relationship, no matter how miserable or disinterested he clearly is in in them.
But, John's also very lonely when we first meet him, and John clearly has A Type™, and that type leans more towards his attraction to men: authority figures or posh and pretty. Basically, men he can look-at-but-not-touch (Sholto, Lestrade, Sherlock), because he can then claim plausible deniability and, in a way, in confirms his internalized biases about himself.
So, in ASiP, I felt that John was flirting a lot with Lestrade when they first met. Just sort of putting out feelers. I think it's safe to say that John... was probably pretty "open to anything" during his service, and in turn I think he learned how to get a read on men he was interested in without actually outing himself directly. And then as the series progresses, we see John seeming to have a friendly relationship with Lestrade, the kind that makes Sherlock a bit jeally (see THoB, holy shit the vitriol he spouted when John called him by his first name, I'm sorry but that was PURE jealousy).
Lestrade then continues to try to keep in touch with John during MHR / the Hiatus... I think it's safe to infer that Lestrade cares a lot for John and feels that it's his duty to make sure he's alright. And then throughout S3 and S4, especially TSo3, they're clearly friends, and I personally believe that by this point, Lestrade knows that John's bisexual and had romantic feelings for Sherlock, but knows it's not his place to force them together. I think TSo3 is a "JUST DONE" Lestrade because – remember – he helped Sherlock write his vows and what we see on screen is WHAT LESTRADE TOLD SHERLOCK TO SAY. So like... I'm sorry but that feels like he's tired of them dancing around each other, and here dumbfuck idiots, I'm going to make sure Sherlock makes it clear to John that the feeling is mutual LOL.
So yeah, I think the best man speech was Lestrade's way of being fed up with their mooning over each other, LOL.
And S4, honestly, I don't remember enough to even put too much thought into it. S4, who he? LOL.
I'm sure I'll have additional thoughts after I've queued and posted this, so I'll add them if I do. I'd love to know your thoughts too, though! Please share! It's nice knowing I wasn't alone in this belief LOL.
