Honestly I’m completely over the dumb Sigyn drama flooding onto that one post I made, so this is the last time I’m going to mention it or talk about it. But jonquilclegane has been lying about me and misrepresenting me on her blog, and honestly that’s not cool. So I’m gonna set the record straight, and then I’m done engaging with these people.
“ "Appropriately toxic and abusive." Just me or does that sound like OP is saying Sigyn deserves to be abused?“
Not what I said. I said it was portrayed as appropriately toxic and abusive. He’s awful to her in the comics, and the comics, unlike certain fans, never try to pretend otherwise. No, obviously she didn’t deserve to be abused. She’s the victim of his cruelty. And pretending otherwise is exactly what I had a problem with in the original post.
It looks like this person has not read the myths
No, I’ve read them. I just don’t care about them. An adaptation stands on its own by its own merits. Yes, Marvel uses the myths as inspiration, but they’re telling a distinctly different story. Or did I miss the chapter in mythology where Loki fought a man with iron robotic armor?
they had only read the comics that suited their view : no word on Loki begging Thor to save Sigyn from the Flame, no word on the “Love of his eternal life”, no word on Theoric and how Loki killed him to marry Sigyn… (that last part is pretty awful, BUT that fan seemed to think Loki only ever hated Sigyn…. when we know it is not true…)
I have read all of those comics. I never said that Loki didn’t at one point love her or at least didn’t at one point think of her in a positive way. But the way their relationship devolved was into hatred and abuse that dominated their dynamic in the comics for the majority of Sigyn’s time in them. Abusers aren’t always abusive from the start, and they can have moments of kindness. Doesn’t change the abuse that happens.
Them saying they believe Loki only loves men made me laugh too… Yeah. After a few vicious s*lk*es, we’re back fighting the Th*rk*es/fr*stir*n/ and so on…
Yeah, I have reasons for that headcanon and that reading of the character, but that’s just my fanon. I am, however, NOT a Thorki or FrostIron shipper. Thorki is one of my least favorite Marvel ships, and while some FrostIron artwork and the like is good and interesting, I don’t enjoy the majority of the content of that ship.
What makes me laugh is that THEY ARE DOING THE SAME, but with other characters. They’re lusting after Loki, and shipping him with their own OC, or favourite character, but, for them, I guess, it’s ok? XD
Okay, let’s unpack this, because this is just blatantly wrong about me. First off, I’m not lusting after Loki. He’s one of my favorite villains. I think he’s incredibly well written and fascinating, and I love reading him and his stories. But I’m not fantasizing about getting with him. You can love a character and not think they’d be a good person or someone you’d want to have sex with IRL, shocking though that may apparently be...
Secondly, I DON’T HAVE AN OC WHO I SHIP WITH LOKI. I don’t do OCs. Yes, I have a character who I ship with Loki, but the difference is I’m not shipping him with someone he abused and resented for the majority of their time together in the comics so....
They accuse us of having a “sweet girl turns bad boy into good with the power of love”, but they’re doing the same XD
No, I’m not. I’m actually doing “bad boy meets other bad boy and makes one another worse” if you wanna be reductive.
They’re telling themselves that Sigyn was not good enough
No. I’m not. It’s the opposite. Loki wasn’t good enough for Sigyn. But, really, I just don’t think they were right for each other. She deserved someone who could love and appreciate her devotion, and he deserved someone who actually likes the worst parts of him.
but that their oc/character is THE ONE for him, that Loki will love THEIR OC/character and will be different with them than he was with her.
Okay, my ship for him is Doctor Doom. And, yeah, he IS different with Doom than he is with Sigyn. Blatantly so in the comics if you’ve read them. They have a different dynamic of two powerful and dangerous men always trying to get the better of one another and out maneuver the other. And the difference is that if Loki treats Doom the way that he treats Sigyn, Doom’ll just treat him the same way in kind. And they both know that. There’s no power imbalance. There’s not one who’s trying to change who Loki is and make him anything other than villainous. They’re on a level playing field where they’d get each other, and they’ve got back up plans upon back up plans as a “nuclear deterrent” of sorts.
So, no, I don’t just ship him with someone else who I think he’d be different and change for. I ship him with someone who goes with him without needing him to change or be anything else than who he is.
And when you speak to them about the Multiverse, how Sigyn might have a nice Loki variant in another timeline… well, you saw what happens. Total denial, they shut themselves down, and there’s no conversation possible.
No, what makes no conversation possible is blocking someone and then lying about them on your blog. But, hey, you do you. For the record, I never said that Sigyn couldn’t have a nice Loki variant in another timeline. Maybe so! That’d be great for her! But it’s NOT relevant to the post that you interjected yourself into where I was asked about my opinion on the comics-verse.
But, hey, why should I expect an honest or nuanced take from someone who interjected herself onto my post without needing to in order to “defend” a fictional character and then blatantly lie about and misrepresent a real person. Why interject yourself into a post where I was asked for my opinion on a subject, where you weren’t wanted or asked for, and then block a person after a conversation had begun unless you don’t actually want a conversation. You just want people who don’t agree with you to shut up.
So, in conclusion...
