@justanotheruntitled04, I made the mistake of not putting a cut in the original post, so to save everyone from the length, gonna move our conversation to a new post:
Stacey do you think they developed more of a relationship after the wedding? Maybe a couple more dates? Or it gotten serious but something changed and possibly leave Theo scarred that she started the pussy parade after that?
My gut reaction is to say that there wasn’t more to what happened between Stacey and Theo than what happened at the wedding. Like, for me, what seems most notable is that Theo didn’t wait until after the reception to make a move but seduced Stacey right then and there, in the house, with all the guests downstairs. Like, Theo! But that makes me wonder if Theo and Stacey spent time together after the reception at all or because Theo had already worked her magic if that gave Theo an opportunity to take her leave at the reception’s end. No having Stacey stay overnight with her, in other words.
But it was so flirty while Theo and Stacey were dancing that you wonder if they might have spent more time together. I don’t know, I’m so thrown off the more I think about it. I hope Nellie got the full story out of Stacey.
Can we talk about the bed scene. Theo seems very satisfied. Then she starts to smoke and Trish starts asking all the questions! You can see her expression change, she gives out a big sigh like “oh gosh not again”, and gives off the cold expression, especially the comment about her living in a funeral home, you see that eye brows raise?! I think she had been in this situation before with previous women she brought home.
We can see that Trish is trying hard to get more from Theo as she starts to share more about herself that is when Theo has it and starts putting on her gloves, like she’s done!
When Theo says she’s a germaphobic and following with Trish respond that she’s not offended, I can see that Theo realizes or feels guilty? that she might had unintentionally hurts Trish’s feeling. With her realizing it, she turns, touches and assures Trish that she enjoyed their little encounter as an nondirective apology for her rudeness. But why does she care anyways if it’s just a one night stand? There must be something she feels/sees from Trish that she doesn’t want her to feels hurt this way.
Theo putting on her gloves--before any other article of clothing--is definitely a sign that all the barriers are coming up. I mean, Trish is just trying to make regular small talk, but Theo is 100% not interested in even giving out the most basic information about herself. All we know for sure that Theo has told Trish is 1) her name and 2) her address. XD
I mean, Theo has basic manners. She’s not a complete asshole. Trish lets Theo know that she was a bit offended by Theo’s answer that she’s a germaphobe. Trish says, “That’s okay. None taken.” Meaning “no offense taken,” meaning that was a careless, offensive thing for Theo to say, so Theo doesn’t directly apologize, just as Trish didn’t directly say that Theo was being an asshole, and smooth things over. It was a fun night, Theo has the sense to not leave everyting on a sour note, so she gives Trish a bit of reassurance.
Can we also talk about Trish in the second bar scene, I like that she doesn’t approach Theo after she looks away! I understand the disappointment but I appreciate that she respects Theo and not to be invading her space.
Contradicting to the time she shows up at the funeral without Theo telling her to. This is after the booty call, the heart felt words about her day.
Trish seems to understand Theo a bit better. She sticks around even after Theo “fuck my day” and walks away! She accepts Theo apology and decides to stay and support Theo even though Theo initially against it. So Trish does see something from Theo that worth this effort!
Yes I want to know more what Trish is thinking!! What makes her want to stick around and be more patience to someone like Theo!? Yes especially with all the red flags you mentioned.
This is actually interesting and I wonder if Trish saw Theo’s moment of honesty and vulnerability as permissive, that is, Theo called Trish over that night and then Theo basically cried and told Trish about her horrible, no good day, and Trish only realizes the extent of how much pain and loss Theo might have been feeling when she sees the obituary in the newspaper. So then, having a bigger picture of what Theo was trying to forget/comfort herself/medicate herself about with the sex with Trish, Trish decides to go to the funeral.
Personally, I’d probably be just as stunned/confused/pissed as Theo. It wasn’t Trish’s business and everything that had happened the night before had been under Theo’s directive and a conscious decision to share.
Theo’s a bit of a control freak, not unlike Shirley, if for different reasons, and so for Trish to invade her privacy in this uninvited fashion was highly alarming.
I don’t know if Trish understands Theo a bit better or if she just has a level of stubborn and being undeterred to match Theo’s level of stubborn and inscrutable. Like the more of a mystery Theo makes herself, the more Trish might be attracted to the mystery? That may be Trish’s deal. To want to study sociology does indicate a person who wants to understand human behavioral patterns and Theo might be a thought problem Trish is looking to upack.
And the booty call scene, Trish’s response “I don’t know, I mean what do people usually talk about?” Something about this makes me think how innocent/inexperience it is for Trish, it’s like she’s never been in a relationship or something? When I saw the gifset about this scene before watching the show, I thought it was Theo that says those words, that Theo never been in a serious relationship that she doesn’t know what normal couples usually talk about?
I don’t read anything naive or unusual about Trish finding to find a topic of conversation as opposed to Trish being so thrown about how Theo doesn’t observe the rules of basic social etiquette? Trish would like to talk a bit and learn about this woman--she’s a lesbian, c’mon, and her efforts are really just an extension of what Trish was trying to do that first night, i.e. have a conversation--and here’s Theo just wanting to make out with her. Trish is trying to find a wedge to get more out of Theo and Theo is blocking her efforts. If anything, Trish asking tells me that she wants the rhythms of a start of a normal relationship and is frustrated with Theo for thwarting her efforts to get at a normal start. It feels more like Trish trying to make a case that maybe a little normality needs to be asserted here.
Like you says Trish character is a blank slate, so please enlighten us with more of your thoughts about her thoughts of Theo, if possible :)
I think about Trish a lot, particularly in my head as a Vietnamese American (I’m ignoring that the show gave her the Korean last name “Park” in the credits, let’s just let her be Vietnamese, it’ll be good for Western viewers to get an idea of what Vietnamese people look like) and while I have ideas about her--and what Theo might pick up from her contact with Trish--I think I realize that I’d project so much onto Trish that suddenly it felt way too revealing. XD
I apologize if any parts don’t make sense or some parts that you already mentioned.
No apologies! I know these take times and I appreciate that you make the effort!