how in the hell do u read the entirety of dgm and still think that allen walker and kanda yuu hate each other’s guts how do u think they detest each other
I do!
Obviously, now I know better than to assume that most of us already agreed that this pairing involved hate between the characters.
My mistake was in that assumption. I apologize for making it sound like a universal fact, but I am not changing my opinion until the day Kanda and Allen really do and completely settle things between them which I do believe will happen one day just not now, nor do I apologize for tagging it Yullen, but I'll put it under a readmore and warning, or at least tag it with its own tag (#KA and hate), the next time I call refer to it as hate.
Though I doubt I'll need to, since I'm assuming who were against it would've already blocked/blacklisted/muted me already. If you haven't, please do.
Still, I'll put this out there because while I don't believe I was in the wrong, I also realize I shouldn't have spoken for more than just me with some lines. I also think people should recognize that I voiced most of my points as opinions, and that I never said "you should think this way or else", mostly "I don't agree and this is why" to defend how I ship my ship in response to tags I don't think were called for, voiced in a reblog.
I have made all attempts to follow fandom etiquette, and frankly I think the level of nastiness I got in response was not deserved. (Though not all tagged, which I appreciate.) Because, again, it was not ship hate, they were voiced as opinions for the most part, and I specified that I had different definitions for the different types of "hatred".
So again, I apologize for the parts where I didn't voice my opinions as my opinions rather than fact.
Next time, when you disagree with me, or if you're really that upset at me "clogging" the tag with certain opinions, please seriously just use the block/blacklist/mute options. "___ keeps clogging the tag" is no longer really a legit complaint unless you're only on mobile, since blocking/muting exists.
First, since I don't want to repeat my arguments more than necessary, I'll put my replies to earlier posts here:
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I'm actually raising my eyebrows to her actually calling that rude. I deleted SO MANY of my original comments. What I get for making an effort. I also see 0 problem with being rude to people who came to argue on my post.
I still think, that yes, they still hate each other. Not nearly as much or genuinely as before, but I still think there's still a lot of bitterness and extreme dislike between them.
The core of Allen hasn't changed that much. He's gotten a lot better with not wearing his mask around his friends, but he's still the same self-sacrificial martyr. Most of the reasons Kanda had for hating Allen are still there. He still wears that fake smile all the time. He is still selfish. He still told his comrades, without hesitation, to kill him if he were to give in to the Noah. And I think it's more than reasonable to assume that because of this, as these are all things that Kanda really dislikes about him, that Kanda still hates Allen. Just that that isn't the only thing.
As for Allen, as I've said in the earlier posts from this one, I believe his dislike for Kanda was true, though now significantly less. I still believe Allen heavily dislikes a lot of traits about Kanda, but I think he also discovered many parts of Kanda that changed his mind a lot about Kanda. I also think that he wanted, earlier, to hate Kanda back because he knew (imo) Kanda hated him too. And now? As I said before, I think the type of hatred Allen has for Kanda has become more of the "casual exagerration of dislike incited by frustration". But I still place that in the category of "hate", which I use as an umbrella term for the definitions of hate I see people use for when I come across them, because that's often what the "hate" tends to mean when people say "love and hate", despite it not being 100% genuine hatred.
Because I have different definitions for each type of hate I've encountered, I chose to categorize them and then specify them. I do not think the hatred (or so I see it) between Kanda and Allen is the aversive kind, but the "obsessive" type--and I'm using the "obsessive" word, for the lack of a better one, generally just to mean that "they can't leave each other alone", and that's what I call other pairings with this type of chemistry (or so I believe) that.
the funniest part is that she’s SO PROUD that she ships this ship in such an unhealthy and ooc way like you are impressing NO ONE and you are also WRONG i can’t believe this
Who was I trying to impress? Being proud of how I ship stuff doesn't necessarily mean I'm looking to get praised. If anything, I often voice it in self-deprecating amusement. I ship them believing they are unhealthy because I don't think I can call two people who punch each other on a frequent basis and have one almost kill the other can be called a healthy ship? It doesn't mean I want them to be unhealthy, but I accept that I think it is in canon, and if I were to say it weren't unhealthy, I'd feel like I'd be making excuses. I'm all for fics that will grow this pairing into an eventually genuinely healthy relationship.
reading literally anything she says literally drains the life out of me why
I don't understand why you don't just have me blocked/blacklisted/muted. Like, here I thought we finally settled that we were going to leave each other alone. Well yeah, you didn't tag it. Bah, whatever.
