#karpati

[felinefractious]

Eros GreyHeart

🐱 Transylvanian

📸 Zsolt Bereczki

🎨 Black Karpati [Roan: Karpati (Carpathian) Pattern]

[whatcoloristhatcat]

Hey, what is the most common cat color? Is there a particularly rare color? What are some cool statistics/facts about cat colors?

the most common cat color would be black, including black solids and black tabbies! there's a good amount of rare colors and i imagine some people would disagree with me about what is rare, but here's a few:

chocolate and cinnamon (solids)

lilac and fawn (dilute chocolate and cinnamon, solids)

silver smoke, shaded and tipped (different presentations of the inhibitor/silver restriction gene)

golden (another variation on the inhibitor gene)

amber (found in norwegian forest cats)

phoenix mutation

"red on blue" tabby and "pseudo-cinnamon" (i've actually seen some misinformation popping up about these guys recently >_>. a cool-tinted red cat is not necessarily one of these guys!!)

karpati mutation

finnish/salmiak/salt licorice mutation

there's definitely more but i'm tired bye

[amber-tortoiseshell]

Confusion over how Karpati presents itself.

On shorthair it presents quite dark over the back. Here is it on Transylvanian cat.

But then in some other versions it has white spots on its back???? This is shown well on this red karpati laperm variant outcross. Reminds me slightly of salmiak but with pale face instead of blaze.

It was listed as red karpati on @felinefractious

On longhair it seems to be paler over the back? Or is it the curls messing with it on these laperm longhairs?

Also where did the white points go?

The spots remind me of salmiak. Which is think is related to karpati. But I swear it's not in any breeds yet, only randombred, also has that "blaze" on the dark face..

So karpati-

So I think it gets paler on longhair????

Where is the laperms karpati white points. They seem to be darker in the face???

But why do some have spots and others not? Why do none of the laperms ever show spots on longhair or curly coats?

Is it the same mutations or is it secretly salmiak or something. But I thought salmiak wasn't in any breeds yet.

Karpati just confuses me.

All photos except salmiak are from @felinefractious

The problem with karpati is that we do not understand how it works yet. The expression varies greatly from "we know this black cat is actually karpati because we saw it when it was younger" to "silver-white" and we don't know what's the difference between them.

same cat, kitten/adult

littermates

It has been suggested some of this might be a heterozyote-homozygote difference, and i'm willing to believe that, but clearly there is more to this that a simple intermediate inheritence. I think the strength of the white on the muzzle is one these aspects.

The spotted phenotype in particular is thought to be homozygous karpati, but nothing is for sure yet. The curly hair probably breaks the spots up totally, also i think rexes has differently structured hairs (no guard hairs?), that's why they look lighter.

The lighter cat from above, and her family tree showing the spotted red cat you mentioned. Note that this is from 2023, and since then it turned out the "finnish pattern" is a different phenomenon. And uh, this is just my thought, but i think it's possible that one particular cat, the famous finnish mutation, is both karpati and salmiak, because salmiaks usually aren't that clearly spotted either, more evenly roaned. Although the ears aren't white, so maybe not.

So all in all: don't worry, karpati confuses everyone. It probably has a bunch of modifiers, that's why some have bold white patterns and some has hardly any, and also why the expression on the face varies so much.

[g0dtier]

i like how she goes from prettiest little princess to goblin mode real quick

[neobendium]

Drawing my friends as cats 4!!

This is Silverfang. He is definitely not a vampire.

I based the coat color off of the Karpati mutation which occurs primarily in Romania & bordering countries and is called the "Transylvanian cat" :3

[theswedishcatlord1o1]

LOOK AT THESE

Karpati and Salmiak cats

[luno-ltl]

This guy got an update in my head many months ago, but he's only getting a drawing now.

He's one of Kath's subordinates and it bothered me he looked like a cat version of Lares (though Lares' white spot is based on a cat's, dogs usually have the white marking closer to the chest) so he's a karpati now! I do want to include local morphs and breeds whenever possible.

Not sure yet if this is his final look, it can stop here or he can become fully black with age.

[warrior-cats-genetics]

Hi I'm back with some cats! I've had them a while and I believe their names are Void (because of a prophecy) Sunheart and Gemclaws respectively!

SUPER COOL KITTIES!! love all their designs wowie!!

void is a shorthair red self with karpati! this is a VERY interesting phenotype. you see, 'reverse point' isn't really a thing in cats- unless you're talking about karpati, which is a rare dominant gene that causes some hairs to be white, especially around the 'points'. this seems to be the best explanation for void's coloring to me!

sunheart is a longhair red mackerel tabby colorpoint! opting to ignore the heart on their chest for simplicity

gemclaws is a longhair blue self with high white! i opt for high white blue due to the gray patches- easily explainable as just a lot of white covering!