#kierathekiller

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“c!Dream poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and delivered a plague unto our houses!”

He did?

“No, but are we just gonna wait around until he does?”

honestly how some of the fandom sound lmao

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@nobodysuspectsthebutterfly ha risposto al tuo post

No worries, this is the famous "Unkiss". Sansa just... edited her memories a little...

@kierathekiller ha risposto al tuo post

Don’t worry you’re not misremembering

Ok I was about to say I was pretty damn sure that didn’t happen cause every time a grown man comes near Sansa my brain automatically scans the scene for inappropriateness, I think I would remember... Well then this is def interesting 🤔considering she is in a transitional moment physically and emotionally, not to mention the whole experience was traumatic anyway because of the war, the abuse she has endured, and the fact that sandor was pretty menacing in that scene...  

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Could you please write “Holy Fuck! Mr.Dashwood’s dead!”

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Look this isn’t even just a personal preference thing— even from a writing perspective this is bad. The narrative weight of death has just been completely removed from the story.

Character death isn’t interesting because of the death itself— it is interesting because of the absence of that character! You are removing a whole part of the story— any arc they might have been going through is cut short and the other characters must now continue their narratives with that hole created by the death.

If you bring a character back before you let the other characters do that then there is literally no development and all the characters are just going to revert back as if practically nothing happened.

It would have been different if it were wilbur or schlatt brought back because they’ve been dead for months— the characters and story they left behind are much different than the one they will return too.

It also seems a bit strange of a plan for Dream to come up with— reviving tommy and telling him that wilbur is gonna help him escape— why not use tommy as leverage over everyone else? Say you’ll bring him back if they let you out? You could argue that maybe he’s too far gone for that but like— he literally brought up that idea himself (albeit with Tubbo’s life) the day he killed Tommy.

Sorry. I’m just very frustrated by this and needed to rant.

if/when dream gets out theres still the weight of like if dream actually Wants to revive them, sure people could go looking for the book unless its in an enderchest or dream burns it because he already Has the knowledge so thats still a Thing

i agree that it felt too short, its like someone said that oh yeah tubbo might not be open to actual grief for a lil bit because the last time tommy was said to be dead he sure as fuck was not and now just... That part 2, but i can also see where theyre coming from about it being very very long in AfterLife Time (ALT) so it could be too heavy to which i say Yes but thats their own fucking fault, they could totally have written that differently

the plan is also... shit, real bad in general yeah

now i can kinda see where dream is coming from, if tommy is doubting his word then whos to say that everyone else doesnt ALSO doubt and would need proof so you kill tommy and bring him back and boom thats a witness

the thing with reviving wilbur too, using my Hot New Meta Knowledge... would wilbur even want to be revived? dream counts on wilbur owning dream his life but what i as a viewer and dream as a character might Not Know is that wilbur really did not want to live

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/rp

Okay now that Tommy is out of the prison and the story seems to be moving onto the next stage I have to say, though my initial frustration with Tommy being killed and revived so quickly has faded, I do think that— in hindsight— the death was unnecessary.

Tommy being upset with everyone “moving on” could have been just as easily accomplished if it was just everyone waiting for him to be released (or maybe all of them only thinking dream had killed him.)

It also made the revival process seem trivial, since Dream seemed to be able to do it with literally no supplies on him— not even the book itself. Of course there still could be some other aspect we don’t know about it but it was still rather anti-climatic in my personal opinion.

It all makes it feel as though the only reason Tommy died at all was to give Dream an excuse to dramatically monologue about his evil plan™️ to Tommy and give Tommy more things to be traumatized over— which is getting a bit repetitive story wise.

Anyway, all this is to say that while my initial reaction of “this is story killing” was a bit dramatic, I still think that this plot point was rather weak. Though this is coming from someone who’s not a big fan of Tommy’s character so I can’t say I’m free from bias entirely.

on one end i agree with you but on another i think the monologue might have been necessary? cuz okay this is a lil meta but i think we needed to be shown that the book actually worked before dream used it on wilbur because quite a few people were theorizing that it was only a ploy to not get killed, the finale was the set up, the revival was the reminder, hopefully soon we’ll get the resolution

on the note of being a reminder i think we needed to see the book used or wilbur suddenly being revived would have been kinda confusing? its been a long time since the finale and now we know at least some of the details of dreams powers (such as not actually needing to have the book, only needing to know the contents) plus without prompting i doubt dream would have brought it up

it does feel very anti-climactic and tommys current sad at everyone else moving on could yes have been done without him being dead, and im always against adding more trauma to the trauma pile for tommy but yeah i do kinda think in hindsight that for the story to make better sense down the line the book had to have been used

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Don’t know if you’ve ever seen puppet history but... gods song? That’s dreamxd to a T baby

i have not in fact watched puppet history but ill try to remember to check the song out

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@kierathekiller ha risposto al tuo post “Jon and Ygritte were finally going to seal the deal and I was entirely...”

Oh man it’s even worse if you’re listening to the audio books and an old man is describing it to you

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@kierathekiller ha risposto al tuo post “Honestly the stuff that happens to Jeyne Poole in the books is the...”

We never actually see the things that happen to Jeyne and most of it is told through implication rather than direct reference