Walter Hinick
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Walter Hinick
In 2009, executioners were unable to establish an IV for Romell Broom. Over the course of two hours, staff tried eighteen various injection sites—including arms, wrists, hands, legs, and ankles. Reports indicate that one attempt struck a bone in his ankle and another resulted in a collapsed vein. Ultimately, he was placed back on death row where he later died from covid in 2020.
Re: the lethal injection/death penalty post you just made: I realize you are not a pharmacist and may not be able to answer this question, but why not use the same drug cocktail for lethal injection as is used for MAiD? As far as I can tell, in Canada the drugs used are midazolam (benzodiazepine), propofol, and rocuronium; while in Oregon, the combo is DDMAPh (diazepam, digoxin, morphine sulfate, amitriptyline, phenobarbital). So either, we've figured out how to comfortably and painlessly euthanize people and are choosing not to use it on prisoners; or, doctor-assisted suicide is actually excruciatingly painful. What is the deal?
Let me take a crack at this.
- Midazolam tops out in effectiveness at a certain point. Beyond that, you’re just putting more wrong-pH stuff in the human body. If not for the massive, massive overdose used in death penalty cases, the tissue of the lungs might not dissolve and drown people while conscious the same way.
- Midazolam is used to calm people down to get them started on sedation. Propofol is an actual anaesthetic, not a paralytic. It is what is recommended, as far as I know — it doesn’t hide people’s reactions like the second drug in the 3-drug protocol does, pancuronium bromide. I think (from what I can tell!) that something like propofol is what experts say would actually effectively keep someone insensate to pain.
- the other one includes morphine yo that person ain’t feelin agony for nothing
- Prisons have no real legitimate avenues left to acquire these drugs. Therefore they end up with compounded drugs, illegal drugs, or black market drugs. These can have contamination, quicker expiration, less efficacy, etc etc etc.
- There are not medical officials placing these IV lines but untrained guards. The number of executions where there are tons of needle marks for attempted IVs is staggering. (Article is about one state but goes into a bit of an overview.) IVs drifting and moving during the procedure has got to be something medically assisted death monitors for more ably than guards pushing drugs through a 7 foot tube from a room next door.
So overall:
The lethal execution protocol drugs are definitely not the same as the ones you mentioned! But even if they were, there are other huge glaring problems with how they are procured, tested (they aren’t) and administered.
i think it is so fucking funny that i was expecting #bill cipher to be trending after tbob but instead it is #billford. i love gf fandom
Okay, so for a while now I kept thinking about this bc I couldn’t recall whether or not the mention of Hannibal getting the needle was in the novel or I saw it elsewhere, but I found it yesterday, so here’s the convo that follows between Crawford and Clarice.
“Do you think, Starling, he might have been interested to see if you’d rat him out when he sent you a letter of encouragement?” -Crawford
“He knew I’d rat him out, he’d better know it.” -Clarice
“He killed six after the court committed him,” Crawford said. “He killed Miggs in the asylum for throwing semen in your face, and five in his escape. In the present political climate, if the doctor’s caught he’ll get the needle.” Crawford smiled at the thought. He had pioneered the study of serial murder. Now he was facing mandatory retirement and the monster who had tried him the most remained free. The prospect of death for Dr. Lecter pleased him mightily.
-Hannibal, page 52.