#libfems dni

[radfemclub]

also do libfems realise it isn't TERFs who are hurting trans women? it's literally other men. and they wonder why we don't want MEN in our spaces??

[alyceinwonderland777]

Radfem math is: Calling every woman who disagrees with you a "libfem". Mind you, I'm not talking about actual libfem takes, but takes like "Misogyny is taught, not innate". This is from a personal experience. Some days ago a self-proclaimed radfem called me a "libfem" and a "male defender" because I said that men aren't born misogynistic and that misogyny is the product of external influences, just like any other form of systemic discrimination. I promise you, “Men and boys must take responsibility for their actions” and “Misogyny is taught, not innate” are two concepts that can and should coexist.

Again, not all radfems but somehow always a radfem.

[autistic-and-radical]

I literally remember that like a year ago I was full-on liberal to the point of hating on radfems... :)) Yeah, a year can change a lot

[scotfem]

Got permabanned off tinder for having "Dworkin lover ♀️" in my bio lmao

[its-pluto2]

A lot of people like to say radical feminists are white women and therefore white supremac*sts and whatnot. Have you not noticed that a lot of radical feminists aren't even white?

We're Mexican. We're Latin American. We're from India, from the Middle East, from Asia. We're from places where it is life and death to be a woman. Where we're targeted as criminals for protesting the injustice we live every day, where one late night might mean we won't return home, where our sex means a difference in how we're treated all our life in every aspect of it. Jobs, socializing, studies. Everything.

Take a look at Iran. At Mexico. At Korea. Do some research before you throw around words like white supremac*st and n*zi around like they mean nothing when you're talking about radical feminists, the women fighting and putting their lives on the line to stop all of this horrible, terrifying violence against us. Literally, google any of these countries next to the word "femicide" and open your eyes a little to the harsh truth (and I must warn you, if you do this, the results will be upsetting).

You guys like to tag radical feminism as this horrible trend that oppresses other movements when in reality, it's a handful of new, "progressive", "liberal" movements that are trying to demerit and oppress feminism and feminists, whether they're aware of it or not.

If your movement has to take away women's rights, you need to revise what it is you're fighting for and how you're doing it.

I am a radical feminist because I am tired of living in fear. I am tired of hearing in the news of another woman whose life was brutally ended simply because she was a woman.

We're not dying out here, we're being murdered. We're being discriminated, we're being denied safety and body autonomy and the right to choose over what happens to our bodies, we're unable to earn the same as a man for doing the same job, we're unable to express a strong character without being called manipulative or hysterical. We have so. much. bullshit to deal with simply because we are women.

And you still think our sole purpose is to target some random movement and some set of pronouns? No, honey, feminists, real feminists, have our priorities very clear.

What we don't like is that now, we have to be reduced to our organs and that we can't even freely call ourselves women because some people will be offended even by that. I cannot fathom how some people still don't realize the slap in the face that is calling women "uterus-havers" just to coddle other people. Use what pronouns you want, but don't take away women's right to call ourselves women - how absurd is that?! I can't call myself a women to not offend certain people!

Are you really telling me that, on top of having to deal with all of the risks that being a woman implies in my life, I have to not call myself a woman and instead use some odd, progressive term just so I don't offend you?

No. Enough is enough.

Women do not deserve to be silenced, on the verge of the year 2023, because other people with very specific needs and wants, want to be coddled by us. Fight for your rights, by all means, but don't try to take away ours just so you can feel better.

Get a grip on what feminism is, what it stands for, and understand that radical feminism only exists because movement after movement tries to crush everything we've fought for and everything we've achieved.

And, if you're a woman and claim to be libfem, or claim to hate feminism, or claim that feminism doesn't represent you, think again. You're only able to have access to a computer or a mobile platform to express your opinion, wear pants, and have access to basic education, among countless other privileges you take for granted, because of feminism.

I mean, come on. A woman wishing for another woman (e.g. "terfs") to be hurt and die? How awful do you have to be to wish that upon another woman? Who's the bad feminist in this scenario?

Women should support and help women before all else, because we're all each other has. You can coddle and favor men all you want, but heaven forbid, if you ever have to deal with sexual harassment, gender violence, anything related, those men you defend won't help you. They will blame you. The men who love women who hate feminism are the men who are most prone to causing harm to a woman for any reason, and you're coddling them by saying "Oh, feminism isn't about me! I believe in not all men! Death to radfems!!"

Think about that if you consider yourself "libfem" - it's a lie. It's a goddamn lie fabricated to coddle and submit to people who feel entitled to our social struggle, people who are so privileged already that they have to find problems and social causes and make up endless terms and pronouns and bullshit to justify it.

Nothing justifies you trying to silence feminism when, all over the world, no matter what country you look into, women are hunted and hurt simply because we are women.

Get that in your heads.

[its-pluto2]

"Women don't own womanhood" oh then who tf does? The 30-something year old man who decided he wanted to be a woman and knows nothing about what it's like to grow up silenced, marginalized, discriminated, harassed, treated like a sexual object, only validated based on unrealistic and even deadly beauty standards? Who must now be applauded for saying "I feel female!" Who must now, despite looking and sounding and behaving like a man, even before properly transitioning, be allowed into women-exclusive spaces which were only created to protect women from predators?

Right. Of course. (sarcasm, for those of you who can't understand the connotation)

All your progressive movements are crap; you guys have no idea what you're talking about, what you're saying, what messages you're actually conveying.

Woke culture is a dangerous, disgusting thing. Keep it out of feminism, we're actually fighting for our lives here.

[its-pluto2]

The fact that the UN itself and specifically UN Women post messages diminishing the violence "cis women" (because we can't call ourselves women anymore even if that's what we are because some people are offended by the fact that we were born women) suffer by claiming trans women are more likely to suffer violence?

According to the UN, 6 women are killed in every hour. In Mexico, 10 women are killed by femicide every day. These are two statistics, paling in comparison of global violence against women. Add to that the harassment, the inequality of opportunities, and you're talking about a real shit fest.

But in order to "empower others" all of that violence gets packed up in a little bow to be used as "something smaller in comparison to what others suffer."

Fuck that.

If anyone should know about the violence women suffer in Latin America, in the Middle East, in Asia, in Africa, everywhere in the world, it's the United Fucking Nations. If anyone has any access to raw data and the actual reality of the world, it's the United Fucking Nations, and they hit us with this?

Knowing the violence we suffer, they think it's okay to erase it and put it aside to "empower another minority"?

This is, undoubtedly, one of the biggest middle fingers a NGO could give to women.

If your fight against oppression erases the struggle of another minority, you are becoming the opressor.

No other opressed minority holds this power as much as the trans community.

Stop erasing women. Stop erasing the violence we suffer. Stop taking advantage of us for your social agenda.

Learn to support and fight for your rights without stepping over others.

Trans people have their struggles, of course they do. You have a right to your spaces, you have a right to have your voice heard, but stop erasing women in the process. Trans women suffer gender violence when they come out as trans. Women suffer gender violence since the day we're born.

You can't compare the two, especially not when one of them is merely a man's grasp on what it is to be a woman.

[its-pluto2]

I am a woman disliked by many men, and more than one of those men who dislike me have expressed the desire to hurt me seriously.

So no, I will never condone anyone, of any gender, saying it's acceptable under any circumstances to be violent towards a woman. Because I don't deserve it. My fellow women don't deserve it.

We do not deserve lives of violence and discrimination, we do not deserve lives of being silenced, of being "acceptable targets for violence" because we deign to disagree with you.

Your liberal ideologies are trying to make it acceptable to be violent towards women on the grounds of disagreement. Radical feminism is trying to keep women alive.

Now you tell me which ideology is more harmful.