#lis joyce

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Tom Cullen as Mark Jefferson

Leisha Hailey as Joyce Price

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Hot Take: Joyce was a terrible mother and imo did more damage to Chloe than David or anyone else did, because she was actively there in her life and didn’t help at all or neglected her emotional needs and genuinely wasn’t a parent for her. I don’t hate Joyce, I hate the way she actively neglected Chloe’s emotional needs and how she actively led Chloe destroy herself, she actively could see her daughter suffering and reaching out for some kind of attention. Chloe’s bad and reckless behavior especially in BTS can be seen, she ultimately doesn’t care about classes, she doesn’t care that she may lose her scholarship, she doesn’t care about much besides those few things that makes her happy which is usually what Joyce hates or has a distaste for. But even then, I know that because Joyce works a lot she can’t give Chloe a lot of attention but I mean in the first year or few few months of her grief and imo she distanced herself from her daughter. But I also understand she probably didn’t know how to raise Chloe as William mostly raised her which I’ll also bring up William at some point as he also played a role in Chloe’s upbringing and whatnot. But imo most good parents would try to help their children deal with the grieving process, possibly go to therapy (though I know it’s expensive and whatnot), teaching Chloe how to deal with grief in healthy ways and that loss is painful yes and you can spend all the time you need trying to get over that loss. The pain you feel just showed how much they mattered to you, the pain you experience show how deeply you cared, and one thing I love about Chloe is how deeply she cares about people. Sure, she has selfish tendencies from time to time and I don’t like some of her reckless behavior but I don’t hate her and I know she’s a deeply hurt person who is only a result of the lack of any good parental figures in her life, that with each loss she experiences, she loses herself, she lost the joy, the nostalgia, and pure innocence of her childhood the moment William left her life. William mattered so much to her of course as any father would but he was the main parental figure in her life and he wasn’t a strict or mean parent, sure he could’ve been stricter and imo he should’ve had different discussions with Chloe about her grief especially when Bongo died. But William, he wanted her life to be full of joy and he didn’t want imo to steal away her ... joy, innocence, and he didn’t want her to change because of the pain she experienced. But he also imo didn’t teach her enough about consequences for example, he would never seemingly punish her, he always was sort of lenient on Chloe. Yes you shouldn’t be too hard on your kid but when kids don’t learn things such as your actions have consequences and that to everything you may want in life there is a price to pay. I don’t think William is a bad father but there was more he could’ve done, taught her, and he was the best father he could be to Chloe and he was an amazing man, fun to be around, and that man ultimately didn’t deserve death but death doesn’t care if you don’t deserve it or not sadly. I know Joyce is mostly trying to keep a roof over her family’s head and it probably took up a lot of her time, I understand that and as a result Chloe suffered. Another thing I wanna say is that in a way, Joyce put her own emotions, feelings, and desperation above what her daughter may need which is a mom who is supportive, a mom willing to teach her, a mom who could guide her through a such difficult time. Chloe in my new view of the game has been in a way neglected or abandoned in some aspect of her life, Joyce neglected and abandoned the emotional needs of her daughter and thought someone else could help. David. Now when David entered the picture, her negligence imo was a lot more apparent, from how she brushes off David smacking her daughter (possibly multiple times), how she always takes David’s side on things, she undermines her daughter’s feelings and her thoughts on things. The fact there was no discussion or much talk about David entering her life really angers me. Because I will admit that in a way I and many others have undermined her feelings. Chloe’s emotional needs which by her parents were always seemingly neglected and abused. Joyce instead of taking her daughter to therapy (honestly school should be able to pay for those things but no surprise if they don’t) and just trying to be more aware and sensitive to her daughter’s feelings would be nice. Chloe imo exactly hit the nail on the hammer. “Sometimes when we’re really lonely we let the wrong people into our homes.” Joyce in my eyes did exactly that, she was lonely, desperate, needed money, and support in some way which isn’t bad in itself but she never consulted or considered Chloe’s feelings on this. Like as much as I like Joyce and believe she’s trying her best, she is just as bad as David with the negligence and most good parents would’ve gotten David outta there especially after smacking her and emotionally abusing her. “You’ve gotten a long enough break from a father figure” he says, its fucked he says that and it’s even more fucked that Joyce more or likely would agree with him or let him say that Chloe. Sometimes the person who turns a blind eye to abuse can be worse than the abuser because they actively can help or try to but don’t bother or can’t see that the person needs help. Like fuck, the fact you can say that to Joyce and she excuses it by saying that she pushes him and it’s an excuse for him smacking her which he never apologizes for. Also, the fact that she lets David just take over, a man who will never be her dad and someone who needs therapy too and isn’t evil but does a lot of shitty things that can’t be excused. Chloe isn’t entirely blameless though but a lot of her behavior comes from her genuinely shitty guardians and the amount of abuse she endures. Joyce could’ve tried to fix their relationship and pay for therapy for Chloe, possibly try to understand her instead of seeing her reckless behavior as something that needs to be fixed instead of an obvious cry for attention and cry for someone to care. Joyce actively neglected her daughter and it shows through Chloe and her shitty behavior that comes out sometimes as well as her reckless behavior and feeling as though she’s been abandoned and neglected almost all of her life. I apologize that I haven’t really seen that Chloe’s abuse or seen that her behavior is more so a result of her upbringing though I still hold her accountable for her bad behavior, she’s an incredibly hurt girl who’s been mostly abused her whole life. Though it never excuses her stealing, her selfish behavior, her reckless behavior, her ableist behavior (which yeah she doesn’t mean to do but it’s still ableist regardless), it if anything helps me understand more where she’s coming from. A lot of Chloe’s shitty, reckless, and genuinely questionable behavior imo comes from Joyce, William, David, and all of her guardians who have failed to take into accountability her feelings, her self-destructive behavior, how they have failed to help her deal with the loss of her father. Joyce needed to do better. Don’t hate the woman but hate that she lets David walk all over her and abuses her daughter because she’s so desperate to keep things afloat. David helps with the house, he helps keep them all alive and not on the street, which I can understand and empathize with but it still doesn’t excuse her negligence towards her child. It doesn’t excuse her allowing a grown ass man who isn’t her dad boss her around, emotionally and verbally abuse her, and let him smack her around. Chloe deserved better guardians otherwise she wouldn’t be a quarter of how bad she is and dealing with all these mental problems.

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Ah mother and daughter