Posted something fire on main so you already KNOW I have to repost it here
For context, my post was a reblog to this one (by the great papyru) that's also really good. not going to reblog from there again since I want Papyru to get all the likes instead of having to dig through notes to figure out which liked their post and which liked my addition.
heehee here's the post now. be warned, it's under keep reading because it's REALLY LONG.
i'm evil hijacking this post to brainrot about my interpretation of flowey and toriel post pacifist feel free to correct me if you think i could cook harder but like
i think this is why it'd take so long for flowey to really admit that he's asriel to toriel. they grow closer but he doesn't want her to think of him like that. of the martyred baby prince instead of the him right there. he doesn't want to have to calculate in his head to figure whether she's doing this for him, for 'asriel', or for the version of him she thinks he is.
he's cautious as hell because he can't reset anymore and he doesn't want to ruin things permanently hell it's already taking him a lot to not just hide away from people he isn't 150% sure could never hate him. like months probably go by as toriel thinks of him as this weird kid who seemingly has no home and clearly cares about her and begins to think of him like a second son.
he slowly shows her more and more of himself and every time he does for a bit he's scared that she'll grow tired of him and wish he was a normal boy but it never happens and he just doesn't understand. how could she care about him when he's so annoying he's such a horrible person he just hurts anyone who wants to get close to him.
he occasionally just has meltdowns but instead of getting frustrated at him she grows angry at herself because she doesn't know how to help him and she wishes she was a better mother and able to do something for him. so he just begins to feel ashamed and just kinda locks himself away and toriel tries to get him to open the door but eventually just leaves him be in the hopes he'll feel better later.
things go like this for a while. flowey and toriel get comfortable again, toriel tries to show flowey that she cares about him, and then flowey grows overwhelmed and upset and hides away. she eventually just asks why. is she trying too hard? was it something she said or did?after a pause he just says "i don't desrve it."
she doesn't get how he couldn't. when she tries to tell him how good a person he is, he just retorts "you don't know me." she almost demands to know how she still doesn't know him after months but realizes that it won't do any good. she instead asks who he really is. he doesn't entirely know where to start. he lists the terrible things he's done, the bad thoughts he's had about people he knows care about "him". it's kind of like screaming into the void.
a pause. flowey begins to think he said too much. toriel opens the door. she looks down at him before sitting beside him. neither of them know what exactly to say. she tries to reach out and pat him on the head, but he cringes. he asks her if she cares about any of the things he's done. she admits that she's still processing everything he's said, but feels that he's changed since then considering he doesn't still run around killing and torturing innocents. she jokingly asks if he's secretly a serial murderer and he's like "i don't know, you'll have to find out."
he still doesn't get why she cares, but he's figured out by now that he can't really stop her, so he'll just have to deal with it.