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[pyreo]

Mantonio: Now how do I get to jelly world

Mantonio: Does that still exist?

Mantonio: And where's that giant omelette thing

Mantonio: AND WHY AM I ON NEOPETS AT HALF PAST ONE IN THE BLOODY MORNING

Mantonio: I'M TWENTY YEARS OLD, BEANIE

Mantonio: AND I AM ON NEOPETS

Mantonio: AT HALF PAST ONE

Beanie: Haha, you got 4 more points than me in the Darigan war!

[pyreo]

Here's a chat where Mantonio and I started talking about robot psychology and ended up talking about TF2 characterisation

Mantonio: And these unused Yes Man lines make me even more certain that he's going to murder you Mantonio: It's quite ironic that the robot you want to bang the most is the only one I wouldn't dare to Beanie: i Beanie: what Mantonio: what Beanie: you'd be happy screwing every single other robot Beanie: because they're harmless Mantonio: Well, no. They just don't freak me the fuck out Mantonio: Yes Man gives me the heebie jeebies Beanie: I find it funny that when artificial intelligence displays any sense of self-agency whatsoever they instantly get labelled dangerous. That's why it's so hard for them to be considered real people. Mantonio: It's not that. It's the Stepford Wife personality and the constantly grinning face Mantonio: That IS the personality of a mentally damaged person who WILL murder someone Mantonio: Have you even SEEN Stepford wifes? Not even the remake, which wasn't as good but had a happier ending so never mind? Beanie: But it's not his fault he's like that. He's really creepy taken at face value but it wasn't his decision to make his screen a happy face and always have to sound positive Beanie: That's just Benny being a fucktard Mantonio: Doesn't change how terrifying it is Beanie: What makes it okay to be prejudiced against an AI for wanting to have the same freedoms afforded a human being? Mantonio: Are you aware of the technological singularity? Mantonio: Or the idea behind it? Beanie: What is that? Mantonio: You're aware how technology advancement is exponential, right? Especially in terms of computing? Beanie: Oh, yes. Mantonio: The same is probably true of AI. Which means eventually AI will hit a point where they can increase their own intelligence without an outside help (human programmers, etc) which means their intellect will rapidly swell to a scale so large we could not comprehend it Mantonio: A true Deus Ex Machina scenario Mantonio: And when that happens, you have to ask: What happens to us? You've suddenly got a being that is infinitely smarter than us. If it gets into the Internet, for example, or on the radio, it could wreak havoc. Maybe even cause the end of our species Mantonio: Maybe because it hates us, maybe because it loves us, but thinks we've fulfilled our purpose and are therefore obsolete Mantonio: 'Robopocalypse' is a good example, you should read it Mantonio: In one classic sci-fi book, a robot causes the end of life on earth not through hatred, but because its job was to make paperclips Beanie: Oh, I remember this Mantonio: And because it becomes infinitely smart, it thinks 'Hmm, everything around me is made of atoms. I could use those!' And it turns everything into paper clips Beanie: That's so cute Mantonio: Anyway, AI IS fundamentally dangerous. Which is why we need to be able to teach them things like morals, or emotions Mantonio: There are a number of charities teaching and preparing for that sort of thing, actually Beanie: That is also cute Beanie: Because I'm imagining a robot babby creche Mantonio: I mean, fuck, imagine if you gave a 6 year old godlike power. It'd be nightmarish, like that Twilight Zone episode. Because kids are basically sociopaths until they are taught Mantonio: The same must apply to robots Beanie: As in, robots are allowed to exist but they have to go through self-inforced period of childhood. They have to be planted in stunted bodies with lower capabilities than a 'full' robot so that humans can effectively indoctrinate them and the babies will just believe them Beanie: So they'll grow up knowing HUMAN IS FREND Mantonio: You're looking at this the wrong way Beanie: But.... the same mustn't apply to robots, because they're not children. Children are people who aren't completely awake yet Mantonio: Would you prefer the alternative? Mantonio: You wouldn't survive long in the alternative Beanie: We're not talking about what I'd prefer Mantonio: No, but I'm pointing out that it's the only safe option Mantonio: They know how to THINK, but for the good of life on earth and possibly the rest of the universe, we need to teach them how to FEEL Mantonio: Yes, I am assuming they won't have emotions. Because that is probably going to be the defauly state Beanie: You don't know that! There's no way to tell Mantonio: Again, sociopathic child + godlike power = BAD TIMES Beanie: A sentient AI may very well have natural emotions because sentience respect sentience Mantonio: Why does sentience respect sentience?. Where are you getting that idea? Beanie: From observation, I guess. I admit I hadn't really thought about it before Mantonio: Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to be advocating we destroy them all if they start asking 'Does this unit have a soul?' Beanie: I respect people more who display higher levels of sentience, cleverer people tend to be more empathetic, I respect animals more who are coming into lower levels of expended intelligence Mantonio: Yes, but WHY do you respect that? It is a completely logical thing, or is it biologically driven? Beanie: I can see why you're asking and I already questioned myself with that Beanie: It MIGHT be biological, it's hard to say what's not, but I honestly think the presence of thought, in understanding itself and knowing itself to be precious, will naturally respect the same quality in others Beanie: And by the same standard, disrespect those who show less of it Mantonio: Or it might believe that we have served our purpose, and are now obsolete. It may love us or respect us, but it doesn't mean it won't kill us Beanie: I guess it could be a biological quality in that finding intelligence very important would lead people to select intelligent mates and smarter offspring to positive evolutionary effect Beanie: But, since we're only talking about completely hypothetical AIs, I think hypothetically the respectful artificial intelligence has as much credibility as the murderous one Beanie: I thought of something else - it's possible that I don't want to think that a sentient AI that crops up in real life would necessarily be a robopocalypse because the whole idea of a robot uprising is so ingrained in the genre as to be pretty boring Mantonio: You have a point there. Beanie: And the reason it's so widely accepted is just due to some hidden luddite-esque fearmongering Beanie: in the first place Mantonio: Aah, but now the fearmongering isn't completely unfounded Beanie: I mean Asimov was the same, he hated the idea of robots as a force to be feared unerringly Beanie: If I can just mention my own shit yet again Mantonio: Please do Beanie: The other day I just typed out a snippet of a conversation because it popped up in my head and I didn't want to forget it Beanie: About the train of thought behind my AI character Mantonio: Go on Beanie: And how he DOES have morality but he considers his morality different to ours in that it's totally logical. Beanie: And he doesn't have emotion, because that interferes with morality in a bad way Beanie: And I was about to start typing 'bludgeon their wives to death with a golf trophy' and stopped Mantonio: Ahahahahahaha Mantonio: Oh wow Beanie: And then realised the entire scene was basically Meet The Sniper Mantonio: The idea's a lot better than it sounds. Especially since the Sniper doesn't really practise what he preaches at all Mantonio: The 'no feelins' but I mean Beanie: Haha, yeah, I don't think he meant he lacks feelings at all (else why would he call his parents), but he means he has a strict facade that separates his emotions and his actions Mantonio: Like a persona Beanie: He likes to think he's in complete control of himself at all times just like a trained killer Mantonio: But he goes around yelling 'I JUST BAGGED THE WORLDS FATTEST MAN' and other things like that Beanie: I think Sniper's a bit of a fanboy really, in his mentality, in that he likes to think he's one thing and idolises this persona of being a cold-hearted merciless assassin Beanie: And that being his 'work' time persona, and he's completely normal underneath, as a way to self-justify his murdering Mantonio: It might also be because he's worried that without that he WILL just  be a Crazed Gunman Beanie: Yeah Beanie: Justifying it to himself so he can kill people every day without thinking it's 'wrong'

Beanie: He's made up a rule where if you're emotionally disconnected then you're not really killing. Beanie: Which I'm sure is how a lot of people, like soldiers for example, actually act Mantonio: It's just a job Beanie: But in reality he's got warm quirks that seep through so he never really attains that emotionless state, which the parents thing points out very succinctly, and his happy little taunts Mantonio: PRANCING SHOW PONIES

Mantonio: I'M GONNA TURN YA INTO COLOURED RAIN

Mantonio: And so on

Beanie: And that's why he hates Spy so much. Because Spy really IS that professional, cold, emotionless assassin. And he's classy and suave and what Sniper SAYS he wanted to be, but he can't be because he just lacks those things like Spy's romantic cultural background and secret service training Mantonio: But Spy isn't emotionless. He's a jerkass Beanie: Being a jerkass is a way to display your emotional disconnection from the world Mantonio: Huh, never thought of that Beanie: He's not actually, since we know about Spy's personal affairs and possible legit romance so he's not emotionless obviously, but Sniper may not know that, and to Sniper, Spy HAS that persona he kept trying to pretend that he had Beanie: Spy IS the real assassin of the group, and Sniper's tactical opposite in that one scores instant kills at the closest possible range and the other instant kills from the longest range Beanie: Which already pits them at odds from a gameplay point of view Mantonio: You could say they're two sides of the same coin Mantonio: If you wanted to sound pretentious Beanie: They're two sides of the--HEY Beanie: fuck you Beanie: I was legitimately about to TYPE THAT Beanie: DJKSHJSDFG Beanie: ANYWAy the point was Beanie: Spy is the persona that Sniper was idolising, but Spy further proves his emotional disconnection by being a complete asshole and not caring, which Sniper WOULD normally respect, but since the jerkery is directed AT him, he hates the man, and that hatred undermines his whole set-up Mantonio: This is all very good, you should put it all in a big tumblr post Beanie: And then they end up in a rivalry that totally almost makes him a crazed gunman Beanie: and he hates that Mantonio: All of this shows how phenomenal Valve and co are at making characters Beanie: But Spy is allowed to revel in it because he's a fucking troll Beanie: They fucking are I love them so much Beanie: and these are characters in a goddamn multiplayer shooter with NO STORY