#math queer wisdom

[gay-otlc]

AO3 statistics for trans men

I looked at three main categories of ao3 stats: number of explicit fics, ratio of M/M to M/F fics, and different types of sex listed under "additional tags" (vaginal, oral, etc). There are definitely more things that could be looked at but these are what I focused on.

Explicit rating

At the time I collected these numbers (they've likely already changed, fic authors publish stuff fast) there were 14,221,609 total fics on ao3. Of those, 2,569,913 fics were rated "explicit," or 18.1% of fics. There were 91,487 fics tagged "trans male character," and of those, 43,845 were rated "explicit." That's 47.9% of fics tagged "trans male character."

Nearly half of all fics featuring trans men are explicit, compared to about a fifth of fics overall. This indicates that trans men are heavily sexualized in fandom spaces.

M/M vs M/F fics

For fics in general, there were about 2.0 times as many M/M fics as M/F fics (6,822,062 and 3,439,600, respectively). For fics tagged "trans male character," there were about 6.0 times as many M/M fics as M/F (68,507 and 11,359, respectively).

When filtering for fics rated "explicit," the difference in ratios is even more significant. Explicit fics in general had about 2.2 times as many M/M fics as M/F (1,616,555 and 743,455), while explicit fics tagged "trans male character" had 8.6 times as many M/M fics as M/F (38,490 and 4,489).

Fandoms in general tend to lean more towards M/M relationships than M/F relationships, but this discrepency is much stronger when it comes to trans men, and I'm not sure what the reason for that is. Trans men are more likely to be non-heterosexual than heterosexual, but not necessarily more likely to be attracted to men than women (a lot of trans men are bisexual, pansexual, queer, etc).

Trans male characters are more commonly shipped with men than women, to a greater extent than the overall fandom preference for M/M ships over M/F, and I'm not really sure why, but it's definitely interesting.

Additional tags

For explicit fics tagged as "trans male character," the most popular additional tag by far is "vaginal sex" at 13,685 fics (31.2% of explicit fics tagged "trans male character"). Since this tag doesn't necessarily refer to the trans male character (it could refer to a cis woman being vaginally penetrated by a trans male partner, for example), I filtered for fics tagged as M/M. That resulted in 12,504 fics tagged "vaginal sex," or 32.5% of explicit M/M fics tagged "trans male character."

Overall, for explicit fics tagged as "trans male character," the most common additional tags referring to different types of sex were:

Vaginal sex, at 13,685 fics

Vaginal fingering, at 9,908 fics

Oral sex, at 9,147 fics

Cunnilingus, at 7,712 fics

Anal sex, at 4,590 fics

There definitely are trans men out there who enjoy vaginal penetration/fingering or receiving cunnilingus, and many of the fics tagged as such might be reflective of that fairly common* experience for trans men. That being said, there is a really heavy emphasis on vaginas and vulvas in explicit fics about trans men, and I find that uncomfortable.**

*I think? Unsure how common it actually is

**BEFORE PEOPLE START MISINTERPRETING ME: I'm not saying I'm uncomfortable with trans men who enjoy using their vaginas/vulvas for sex, or the existence of that kind of fic. I'm saying that fandoms in general tend to focus on trans men having vaginas to an extent that I'm uncomfortable with.

[gay-otlc]

Note: Even if in retrospect you don't think you were actually attracted to a certain gender that you labelled yourself as attracted to (for example, you identified as bisexual but later realized you were never attracted to anyone and now identify as aroace), vote as though you actually were attracted to that gender. If poll options did not have character limits, it would be worded "I considered myself to be attracted to [gender]" and that's the way it's meant to be interpreted. So the person in the example above would vote "Previously attracted to multiple genders, now attracted to none"

Another note: The first option is supposed to say "gender(s)", I typed it wrong, I'm sorry

TRANS PEOPLE- How does your orientation now relate to your orientation from before you came out?

It hasn't- I use the same labels and am attracted to the same gender as before

Attracted to same binary gender as before, different label*

Attracted to different binary gender from before, same label**

Attracted to different binary gender from before, different label***

Previously attracted to one gender, now attracted to multiple genders

Previously attracted to one gender, now attracted to none

Previously attracted to multiple genders, now attracted to one

Previously attracted to multiple genders, now attracted to none

Previously attracted to no genders, now attracted to one

Previously attracted to no genders, now attracted to multiple

My sexuality journey is more complex than any of these options

See results

Voting ended onSep 6, 2024

*for example, went from identifying as a lesbian to a straight man

**for example, went from identifying as a straight man to a straight woman

***for example, went from identifying as a gay man to a lesbian

This is something I was wondering about, since I know a lot of people whose sexuality labels have changed before and after coming out, and I felt like doing a tumblr poll about it

[gay-otlc]

When did you start experiencing sexual attraction?

10 or younger

11

12

13

14

15

16

17

18 or older

I don't experience sexual attraction/see results

Voting ended onSep 9, 2023

Curious about what age is "normal"

[gay-otlc]

happy pi day 🥧

WHOOOOOOOO

[gay-otlc]

hello, math hat anon again :)

now im curious, what did you all talk about wrt hats over numbers lol

also ik the internet is a complete cesspool rn, but i hope people irl are better /gen

anyways, math thought: queer ppl are like the number i.

let me explain.

nobody thinks we exist except we do AND we're really cool

AND we can help solve problems that wouldn't be possible without us!!!

we break down allocishetero-normative social structures and that's super awesome of us :D

AND our very existance is enough to anger the average republican, which is baaaasically a super power (altho we do share that one with Most Of The World, ahaha, albeit for different reasons)

We basically just collectively decided that the hats over the letters were the best thing about vectors

People irl are. Hmm. I guess it's not as much a shitshow as the internet but it's not great. Goyim are exhausting sometimes.

Hmmm, queer people as imaginary numbers, that's interesting. That kind of reminds me of that time I decided my gender was like pi (it goes on forever and ever and you can try to solve for every digit but you're never gonna find it, so ultimately you might as well just round)

Math queers >>>>

[gay-otlc]

hi hello it is the anon who was talking about giving more math variables hats again :)

i noticed theres been a huge uptick in antisemitism that ive seen, esp in the past few days, moreso than when i first sent the ask with the hats

so im sending positive vibes ur way

and here have another math fun fact:

the 4th 5th and 6th derivatives are called, respectively, snap crackle and pop

yes after the rice krispie elves adjgladkjg

7 and 8 are called lock and drop and i have no idea where those came from

Hi again!! I think you might have started something with that ask bc the other day we had an entire (informal) class discussion about variables with hats.

Yeah, it sucks, thank you for your support in these trying times

SNAP CRACKLE POP oh my god

[gay-otlc]

speaking of math do you know how to solve sums where you prove things based on trigonometric identities? Like, prove that (tan B + cot A/cot B + tan A) = cotA.tanB?

Also if a question says plot a graph with thing one against thing 2, which one is the x-axis?

I remember some of the trig identities but not that one apparently! To be perfectly honest trig is not my thing. I like numbers. Fuck this triangle bullshit. Sorry :/

If the graph is 'thing 1 vs thing 2" then thing 2 is generally the independent variable (x axis)

[gay-otlc]

i mean fair everyone is bad at them but! i am moderately ok at them!

y=mx+b........ no.......... i don't know that chapter at all and my math exam is Very Soon

ok so gender thoughts in that i feel like? sometimes a girl? but my hair which is growing out now, i want it to be short. the only scenarios i can imagine it being long is like, times when i dress up. basically my hair would be an accessory. eg my wedding, a party, stuff like that where i curl/style my hair

otherwise i just imagine it short!! like even shorter than it is right now!! so i keep wondering if i'm forcing being feminine on myself a little with the hair and i shouldn't grow it out or what lmao

i also found a jewish comedian on my suggested content on youtube while having dinner (aka literally 10 minutes ago) - jessica kirson, she had this one short (https://youtube.com/shorts/c2lQ9k1z-po?si=6EaF-BC5omITl0YG) where she said "jewish men are amazing!!" and i went Wait I Should Send This To S. But How

So here i am :D

also i taught my friend how to do quadratic equation word problems (read: we googled questions and their answers)

i hope you have a nice day! it must be morning for you since it's 8:25 for me :D

Okay so m is the slope (change in y divided by change in x or rise over run) and b is the y-intercept (whatever y is when x = 0). I should be a math teacher fr

So inconvenient that hair doesn't just change length whenever you want it to :/ but if you want it short a majority of the time I would say snip snip.

Lmaoo that was actually so good. Jewish guys are amazing! And we also have big dicks can confirm

It was morning for me when you sent this, it's almost noon now though