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I don't remember Max being like this... so I don't know the word. In Season 2.
First of all I don't even understand what the problem with him is why Luzy wouldn't want to make their relationship official. He's a year younger, so what?
And then he's just okay with Luzy hiding their relationship.
He's like: " It's okay. Your are special. And I'm wortless piece of crap..", he doesn't say that but it sounds like it.
Or when Luzy apologizes to him for not defending him from Kaya he's also like: " You didn't do anything wrong." It's like he never sees her doing anything wrong or something.
And then making the relationship official is pretty much just her decision. It's not on him if he wants it. So If she wants to hide it further he has to be OK with it.
I don't care that much abt Max. Is character is fine, and I like that they brought different major characters in beside the kids who live in the house. But I do feel kinda sorry for him. It's sooooo obvious that he loves Luzy alot more than she does, maybe idolizes her a bit.
Why do you dislike Luzy x Max? I do aswell lol.
Thanks for the question OP!
in short my reasons are:
- the distortion of Lucys characterisation
- Max misogynistic behavior (which can tbh said about most dha characters to be fair)
- the forced way their relationship starts
- Their lacking chemistry, for one due to Luzys obvious queerness (unintended by the writers but still undeniable), but imo even Charlotte and Max had better chemistry at some point
- general bad implementation of the romantic parallel Plot in S2, leading to unneccesary drama
Now I've got a LOT of thoughts about this, so here a further explanation:
- first of, I think Luzys characterisation got completly butchered for the story surrounding Max and Luzy. I know it has to do with the changes the dha adaption made from hha, but it makes zero sense to me that Luzy is suddenly so obsessed with finding love and then Kaya of all things. It doesn't seem true to her character in S1 at all. Also after the first few episodes she completley forgets about Linn which ist super weird, since she was pretty obsessed with her in S1
- Max is such a misogynistic piece of s*ht. Like don't get me wrong, I don't hate the character. His background ist pretty interesting and I like that they tried to include reaccurring characters that don't live in Haus Anubis in the age group of the cast. But to me, his weird comments about women give such a bad first Impression, I couldn't help but dislike him at first (And when I finally warmed up to him they decided to not only change the actors but also throw his characterisation over board lol) . Although I recognize, that his sexism isn't unrealistic for boys his age (and in general sadly) and might just be a reflection of sexist notions the writers have themselfes, I still hate that this wasn't adressed properly in the show .
The main reason for my dislike is however:
- To me it Just seems like Luzy tried to convince herself that she is in love with Max. This makes sense, as Luzy is convinced that she will find her true Love soon (and is in denial about her Attraction to Charlotte lol). Remember how disgusted Luzy was at the thought of Max being in love with her, after she dreams about him? Yeah that didn't make me think: wow they're made for each other. And how she couldn't imagine that Max didn't write the letters as a joke to make fun of her? Charlotte even admits herself that Luzy never gave Max a second thought before the letters.
The writers try to explain Luzys hesitance by impliying the the main reason she is turned off by the thought of her dating Max, is their age difference. While I think that is a legitimate reason, it feels like an excuse the writers use to delay their relationship for dramaticism, because the characters never show a care for way bigger age gaps (which is another can of worms that I won't open here)(see: Luzy herself is attracted to Benny, Herr Petkovic and Radus) and this reservation of Lucys is only talked about once or twice as far as I recall .
Also I feel like the circumstances under which Luzy confessed didn't really allow her to make her own choice. It was literally: tell Max you want to date him or he'll leave forever. Afterwards Luzy is shown to be ashamed of their relationship and even though I like the talk they have about it afterwards, I still think that isn't a sign of a healthy relationship. This furthers my belief that Luzy is just convincing herself that she is in love with Max, because he is the only boy that is showing sincere interest in her, disregarding that all of her emotianlly intimate relationship have been with girls in the past. This is typical behavior in a heteronormative society and reflects not only the fictional world dha plays in, but also the real world of the writers which the show is a product of.
Especially at the beginning of their relationship it seems like Max feels more for Luzy, than she does for him. The scene in the Restaurant where Max draws and compliments her, Luzy is just flattered but doesn't compliment Max in any way.
I think that Luzy is in love with the Idea of being in a relationship, instead of being in love with Max.
- Overall the relationship suffers from dhas need too always include a romantic plotline aditionally to the mystery. (Which can also be said about the other canon couples, but imo especially applies to Luzy x Max)
It's like the writers tried to delay them getting together so much, that it just ended up seeming like they weren't a good match for each other. Instead the show could have used more time to flesh out Charlottes and Kayas relationship instead of omitting how exactly their kiss at the season finale came to be. (Or just let Luzy and Charlotte get together but I know that would never happen 😭)
- now the chemistry. It's tbh not the worst, as I think Ninas and Daniels actors fail even more so at conveying that, but other characters' chemistry is just a lot better. Max and Charlotte talk way more with each other than Luzy and Max do and with their development from a relationship purely for their respective own advantage, to a friendship where they genuinely want the other to suceed and be happy, felt more natural than anything that has happened between Max and Luzy. Max & Charlotte and especially Charlotte & Luzy have more scenes of emotional vulnerabilty with each other, which I believe ist a big reason why they seem to have more chemistry.
(I also think that is where Magnus x Mara suceeds and other canon couples fail: regularly talking about their feelings, not just the feelings concerning their relationship. Many relationships that aren't canon like Luzy x Charlotte or Nina x Deliah show the characters comforting each other, telling each other secrets, casual physical touch and generally being open and understanding with each other, which the real couples just don't do to the same extent)
Also maybe that's just me, but many scenes between Luzy and Max seem kinda akward to me? Like they just don't know how to act around each other.
- also COMMUNICATION! It went well in the end, but it seems like a stupid thing to do, not to tell your girlfriend, that your father is the goddamn headmaster?? (Although I love the scenes with Luzy and Altrichter) This ist exactly the stuff you should tell your Partner.
Now some general things that irk me about the whole romance Plot in S2 which play a big part in why I dislike LuzyxMax:
- although the same can be said about Kaya, Max and Charlotte, I think it's especially weird that Luzy isn't involved in Sibuna at all in Season 2 once the romance side story starts, even tho she played an important part before. It seems unrealistic, that she isn't interested in what is happening around Sibuna all of a sudden (she does again in S3 but that's way later). Also, generally I think that from a storytelling perspective, it is a waste of characters to just involve them in a Love Plot and don't give them any other defining character moments.
- I dislike, that the love plot ist completley Independent from the main storyline. That simply seems like bad writing to me and a cheap way of avoiding to think about, how all characters can be incorporated into the story. To me, the whole love side plot in S2 seems really forced and they made it so unecessarily dramatic (thats a general dha issue tho). I especially hated how the finale was split between the pretty dark and suspenseful story around the grail and the Amusement Park scenes (even thought all of them are Comedy gold). The Amusement Park seems like a desperate attempt to somehow tie up all the storylines that were brought up during the season and therefore seems kind of rushed. I think this robbed the finale with Raven of a lot of suspense.
You get the gist 😅.
I don't think Max x Luzy is horrendous. Imo they have some cute moments, but their relationship feels forced and isn't made to last. I would prefer both characters in different relationships or single. However, a big reason for that is not inherent to this couple specifically, but to the concept and writing style of dha that depends heavily on relationship drama, which especially Luzy, Max, Charlotte and Kaya are victims of in S2.
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I can't imagine Luzy and Max doing this:
Daniel took a closer look at Luzy. Her voice had an almost pleading undertone. But everything was fine again between Max and Luzy. In any case, Nina said earlier that she had seen Max and Luzy snogging in the corner after school. Was Nina wrong?
Especially NOT in Season 3. They are so awkward in that Season. 😭 I mean just the painfully awkward greeting when Max came back from his hollidays. There is no Chemistry in that Season between them and Luzy stands like a stiff shy schoolgirl next to him. It's even worse than with Nina and Daniel if that is possible.
The difference: 😭
Luzy: Max."
Max: Hi."
Luzy: Hey. I thought you wanted to be gone for a week longer."
Max: Yeah my father got himself a substitute who got sick. Then we had to come back."
Luzy: And. Don't you have a present?"
Max: No? Should I have one?"
Luzy: No you don't need to have a present. But you can gift your girlfriend something of course. "
Max: Oh.. Hey but I'm the present. I don't have the money for something else."
Luzy: Good. I'm tired I'm going upstairs okay?"
Max: Are you mad at me now because I don't have a present?"
Luzy: No no. It's okay."
Kaya: Hey."
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Magnus: Did you miss me?"
Daniel: Did you have a nice holiday?"
Magnus: Well that is a pretty long story."
Rosie: Look that was in the breadbox."
Magnus: Then I would rather take the Cornflakes. They are probably a bit better."
Rosie: Oh Magnus. How nice. You look good. Now everyone is here again."
Felix: Hey Magnus! And 1, 2,3, 4. Morning sport."
Magnus: Well nothing changed."
Hahaha they basically walk like 2 meters or so behind them and don't see Luzy and Max.
The fact that Max wanted go to England, eventhough his English is trash in canon is so funny to me.
" Hello my name is Max. Me laf you."
"Yes me, Petkovic."