#messies

[meulinn]

Small solfef

[dovymcjewpunk]

I was buying flowers to put by the bimah for Shavues, and the cashier pulls a pile of white and blue embroidery floss out of her pocket and asks my husband and I if we have these too. It took me a second to realise it was a messianic showing me their "tzitzis". I couldn't help myself. The words "yes, but the real ones" fell out of my face.

[diapersndragons]

the combination of abdl and impact play really truly does take the phrase "beating the shit out of you" to the next level huh

[magnetothemagnificent]

so as to avoid doing so, what are some ways that christians appropriate judaism?

-Wearing Tzizit/Tallit or kippot. Just no.

-Celebrating Jewish holidays, especially Passover.

-Whatever weird shit Evangelicals do with Torah scrolls. You don't wrap a Torah scroll around a person. That's extremely disrespectful.

-Messianic "Judaism". Just the whole package. Throw that shit away.

[magnetothemagnificent]

It's Mar Cheshvan, the most "bitter" of all the months of the year, so to cheer everyone up I'm going to do a short review of what happens when you search for Judaica on Aliexpress. I'm gonna got with only the first four results.

So let's start:

Alright so the first out of the first four results:

Alright. So, no obvious Messianic symbols on this one. I like the colours, and there's no Christian words in the title. It also has the right number of branches for a proper Chanukiyah, and it looks like something I'd like to own if it was actually good quality, which I doubt.

10/10 for this one.

Well, obviously this one is glaringly obvious. That's seven branches, not nine, even though it claims to be for "Hanukkah". The 12 Tribes motifs are nice, it's just too bad that it can't actually be used for Chanukah. No Messianic symbols or language on this one though, so that's at least the bare minimum.

6/10. You may think that's a little high, but for Aliexpress this isn't too bad.

Well. Well. First of all, this Challah cover isn't my personal taste, but it's actually a Breslover Challah cover. The fire symbol and the phrase "תוקד עד ביאת משיח", which means "My fire burns until the coming of Mashiach" is a Breslover motto. Which of course makes it all the more offensive that the title of this product has the phrase "Church Souvenirs". This is gross, and also shows blatent plagierism which Aliexpress is notorious for.

0/10

Hm. Well, I mean it's obvious this is Messianic even without looking at the title. The plus side is that it's made out of cheap metal, which means that whoever buys this garbage will get green tarnish stains all over their neck from wearing it. And, maybe I'll give this one a point just for making me giggle thinking of people wasting their money on this product and just ruining their skin with the cheap metal.

1/10, just for the thought of these people getting those annoying green tarnish stains.

Anyway.....don't buy judaica from aliexpress or any cheap novelty website. Support other Jews and get your Judaica ware from verified Jewish artists and sellers. But this was fun.

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[magnetothemagnificent]

So how do we feel about Christians using the priestly blessing?

Some background - my family was Jewish, I'm the only one who is Jewish (I converted). My brother is Christian and his wife is a pastor. I noticed that they have started saying the priestly blessing over their kids before bed, and he said it over my nephew in church during his dedication. It has rubbed me wrong since I first heard them say it before bedtime one night, but I need someone smarter than me to help me out here lol.

They also dipped their toes into "friday night sabbath dinner" a while back, but have since stopped (thank gd). They also had a kiddush cup at their wedding (they didn't know that's what it was till I pointed it out), and they used that for their friday dinners too.

I guess I just need some help with explaining to them in a simple way why this stuff is wrong for them to be doing because I think they genuinely don't know. I think they might think that because "we're Jewish", that it's fine. But really my biggest question is about the priestly blessing, because it just rubs me wrong but I don't have the right language to explain why (and if) it's totally wrong to them.

Ooof yeah the Priestly Blessing is a no-no for Christians.

First of all, the Priestly Blessing is called the Priestly Blessing because it's traditionally said only by Kohanim to the rest of the Jewish people. This is something that's strictly genetic- nearly all Kohanim share a Y-haplotype linking them all to one ancestor. Jewish priesthood is inherited via an unbroken patrilineal chain.

While Jewish parents, Kohen or not, sometimes recite the Priestly Blessing when blessing their children before Shabbat and holidays, it's not the same.

Your family is not Jewish, it's not right for them to recite Jewish prayers. I don't know if you'll be able to convince them, because unfortunately Christians who are very stubborn in their appropriation of Judaism are hard to convince. Maybe try telling them how it makes you feel as a Jew, and how their behaviour makes you feel uncomfortable?

Honestly good luck, because that sounds like a shitty situation to be in.

[magnetothemagnificent]

Alright so you asked for me reviewing the results for "Jewish" on Wish.com, so I delivered. I picked the first ten most horrible ones.

Why the Christmas themes? Why the Christmas colours? Like c'mon at least do the stereotypical blue and silver.....

7/10 because this is a lot better than what's coming.

I mean you know what I'm gonna say.

0/10

My first reaction was "wtf Jews don't have Chanukah trees". And I'm gonna stand by it. Chanukah isn't Jewish Christmas. However...I could see an interfaith family enjoying this, especially if they have kids.

3/10

Wow! Pagan appropriation instead of Messianic appropriation for a change! Gross. Nasty. Uncreative. Unoriginal.

0/10

Yeahhhhh I don't think an actual black hat would be $6. First of all, they're not usually made with wool, they're made with suade, and are very expensive. Second, wool black hats are at least in the $25-70 range. I don't see why anyone would buy this unless it's for a costume, and yeah dressing up as Jews is uh...bad.

0/10

I don't see how this is 12 Tribes of Israel, and yeah it looks way too small to hold any candles other than birthday candles. It's not the right number of branches, but it's not labeled as "Chanukah", so my guess is that it's Messianic. Also the design is ugly no offense.

1/10

I love this because I can't tell if it's Messianic appropriation or Pagan appropriation. The Hebrew text is too tiny and illegible to read, but it's not actually "72 names of the god Moses" because of course all those names aren't known and also Moses isn't a god.

0/10

That's not how Tzizit work.......The commandment for Tzizit is to specifically tie them to the corners of a four cornered garment and wear them, not to make them into a keychain. The strings in this photo look more like embroidery floss than proper wool tzizit strings, and tchelet dye is more expensive than that. Obviously this is Messianic too.

-1/10

So the text on this is gibberish. It looks like a combination of Pheonician, Runic, and Latin script, typical of pagan appropriation. Like man it looks like someone looked up "Ancient text" and then just scribbled whatever.

0/10

Lol

-10/10

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