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#susanblommaert who plays #MrKaplan on #TheBlacklist stops by to chat with Troy and Aaron about her time on The Blacklist, her long career, and what happened that one night in Chicago after C2E2. Enjoy this discussion with this seasons big bad next on the #podcast. http://www.goldenspiralmedia.com/ble86-s4-susan-blommaert-interview
Quotes From The Blacklist Season Finale “Mr. Kaplan” Featuring:
Susan Blommaert as Mr. Kaplan / Kathryn Nemec
Megan Boone as Elizabeth "Liz" Keen
James Spader as Raymond "Red" Reddington
I want to say that The Blacklist finally confirmed Red is Liz’s father, yet Dembe’s comments about Red not “denying it” make me hesitant about the whole reveal. It’s like we were given the answer we’ve been dying to just have so we could move on, something that seemed obvious, but a truth which was nice to finally lay to rest. And yet the show has played with perception and altered the truth from time to time, so having those seeds of doubt wouldn’t be too off base. Either way, it will be interesting seeing Liz and Red’s relationship change and probably grow on The Blacklist Season 5 now that their familial connection is out in the open. That is until it all comes crashing down with the reveal of whatever secrets that suitcase and the skeleton hold.
Those good old days
Did Donald say this in Esteban too?
Cooper: The meeting is set for the National Museum.
In 04-09 there’s another museum location
You’ll be going to Cuba undercover, as tourists.
Samar: He’ll be going. Not me. You may be fine with doing this job, no matter how you feel. I can’t.
“No matter how you feel.”
That’s the emphasis.
Ressler: How you feel? How about how Keen feels? Forget about what she did and try to figure out why she did it.
“Try to figure out why she did it.”
Liz is his partner. Liz comes first before the job. The job is the excuse to defend Liz.
Even though she lied to him. Used him. Took advantage of him the man is joyous and livid all at the same time.
Is he still livid now? Or might he do something to prevent Keen from ever leaving him again?
Samar: I have, and someday, maybe I’ll be okay with it.
That’s Thursday.
But right now I’m not.
What? You’re okay with this?
No. But for now, I accept it. You’ll be going alone.
Till he gets his real partner back.
Esteban: The Americans want me dead, so our relationship dies with me, so I get embarrassed.
Ressler: Look, I’m not here to kill you, pal, I’m here to tell you that Raymond Reddington wants to see you.
Stewmaker: “I’m not the guy you kill I’m the guy you pay.”
Esteban: Oh, so now the US government is Reddington’s messenger.
Yes.
Ressler: Oh, you know how it works. The American government has deals with all kinds of scumbags.
Plot point.
Liz: I faked my death to have a normal life. There’s nothing normal about being held prisoner.
Kirk: A temporary inconvenience. You’ll see in time that the normal life you want, I’m the only one who can give that to you.
Did this play out? Is he talking about the house and money?
Ressler: We have an ETA on that plane? There it's is! Go back to 318 what did "Tom" say after Liz water broke? "What's our ETA?" This is Bokenkamp and Eisendrath this is what Ressler says for the past 4 years in dialogue. Not Tom and not last season until THAT episode whenLiz gave birth.?
Red: Your job here is done, Donald.
Ressler: Like hell it is. [there it is again. In 3/18 only Tom said it.] [the cruelty and deliberate how should I say it, endless water boarding to a faithful audience is sick. And they really don't deserve the amazing cast they have, fans, and writers.] of 3B I came here to get Keen. I’m not leaving without her.
Red: You think I’m gonna let you tag along so you can inform the people who kidnapped Elizabeth they have the right to remain silent? I appreciate your assistance, but I’m not interested in having an ethical debate with you about whether they have the right to consult with an attorney before I put a bullet in their head. Excuse me. [ Door bell jingles ]
He didn’t kill Kirk.
What about that dirtball? I suppose you think, uh, I should be okay with letting him walk. It’s entirely up to you. You made a deal with him. Yes, in order to save Elizabeth, I made a deal with the devil of the day. I did you didn’t.
It was a charade, Aram.
Or as Red stated in 3/17 to Donald, an elaborate feint.
So Agent Keen is alive?
“Agent”
Reddington. Where are you? Tell me you have Agent Keen.
“Agent”
Red: You spent a lifetime bouncing from one authoritarian regime to the next. But this is the last stop. You’re a relic. The detente between America and Cuba makes you a man without a country. Sooner or later, both sides will want you dead. My money’s on sooner. [Red has no country]
Panabaker: You told them he worked for us? Do you have any idea what kind of blowback I’m dealing with here? And it doesn’t take long to find out who told the Cubans.
Ressler: I heard it was an anonymous tip.
Agent Ressler… Are you a traitor or– or just a moron?
You’ll find out on Thursday. Notice the red parallels? A man without a country.
Ressler: Look, the Agency was gonna assassinate Esteban… I have no direct knowledge– …so the Cubans wouldn’t find out who was feeding secrets to the CIA. [whos feeding???]
Ressler: Whoever this anonymous source is, he just saved a lot of lives. [Reddington]
Panabaker??? What are you talking about? Now that America knows about Esteban’s little torture chamber, the Cubans are going to want plausible deniability.
Panabaker: Let’s not mince words. You took it upon yourself to tell the Cubans about our–
Ressler: No, I took it upon myself to stop what Esteban was doing. Do you have any idea what that was? No, because all you care about is what Esteban was doing for you. [Ressler broke the rules]
Panabaker: There are bigger issues, Agent Ressler.
Ressler: Torture, abuse, murder. I don’t see any bigger issues than that. [Foreshadowing.]
Aram: Excuse me. Navabi: Have you heard from Reddington? No. Uh, last time I spoke to him, he was on his way to the location where Agent Keen was being held. I’m sure he’ll call. I’m sure they’re okay
Aram: . I think you were wrong not going to Cuba. I’m not saying what Agent Keen did was right, but as long as her life is in danger, as long as Agnes’s life is in danger, I think we have to put our feelings aside.
Samar: What’s happening to Liz is her own fault. I know that sounds harsh, but it’s true.
Hell yes! Audience took Samar’s side in this too.
Oh Donald Donald…
Let’s see what JR Orci wrote in Mato:
Tom: You have nothing to apologize for. You tried to help us find a normal life. I’d take that risk again.
I will guess here this led to the Keen 2 screamfest? Trust me. He’s going to be stupid again. And liz will go off again.
Liz is a fugitive?
If you don’t mind me asking, who’s on the plane? Ressler: Friend.
Samar: A fugitive.
Daly: Sounds complicated.
Sounds like their ONS is coming out.
Aram I guess??? I know this is not about me, it is about Agent Keen, but I don’t know if I have the strength to lose her again.
Who said this? None of us do.
It’s plot point.
Okay go back to lady Ambrosia and the story about liz’ parents collapse of the Soviet Union (Red took Liz after she was born. Cape May “there was a man. He wouldn’t let me see her.”
Now this:
Kate: I betrayed you for the same reason I just betrayed Nikos– to keep Elizabeth safe, just like you asked me to all those years ago, when you first put her in my arms as a baby girl, only now she has a baby girl of her own, and your existence in their lives puts them in constant danger.
Liz was an infant. Red stole his child because legally he could not claim her as his own. (I knew this was what went down! Who is reading slowburn fix? I’m revealing this now! Carla Reddington, and Jennifer and Elizabeth.
Then it was Katarina Red and Masha.
After that it was Katarina Kirk and Masha because red was married to Carla with Jennifer.
Red has two daughters. They need to go back to this. Red had two wives two families one in Moscow one in the states. Two identities. The Fulcrum was to keep him safe so he wouldn’t be a double agent–he’d have protection. Treason a man without country.
Kate helped him through all of it. Now is Kate a colleague or a relative?
Kate: Everyone wants me to make things easier for them. Cleaner. That’s what I am, after all, the Cleaner.
Tom: Just forget I brought it up. Typical selfish prick
Kate: In my desire to make life easier for your baby, I betrayed Raymond, and now he doesn’t know what to do with me. Well, he knows what he has to do, and he wants me to make it easier for him. But I won’t. I’m not here to make him feel better, and I’m not here to make you feel better, Tom.
Unforgiving dialogue. Accountability for actions.
Kirk said they’re going to the Summer Palace. That’s all I know.
Red: Yes. I know the Summer Palace.
Sure he does. He used to play house with Katarina when Constantin was gone. That’s why Liz stuff is there. But that’s not the house he was shot in. He blew up that house in S1.
Kirk: It’s yours. It belongs to you and Agnes, of course. It’s a lovely location to raise a little girl, don’t you think?
Liz gonna get to keep this house?
The armed goons don’t do much for the landscape. Well, the coercion was necessary and temporary. All I ever intended to do was show you, prove to you who you are, who I am. And then you can choose for yourself. Like a Russian fairy tale.
That’s right. Excuse me, Elizabeth. I have much more to show you, but my physician is waiting for me. Hello, Elizabeth. My name is Katja. You can think of me as the Palace Keeper. Palace? The Summer Palace. It’s what Mr. Kirk calls the cottage. Anything you need during your stay, let me know. [ Telephone rings, beeps ] Director Cooper. Red: I know where Elizabeth is, Harold, where Kirk is taking Agnes.
And Ressler is at this house. Rescuing Liz not Tom Ressler. The same house she lived in for the summers (back nine) that Red also knows.
And it’s all Liz’ and Agnes.
Got it.
Liz: How long have you known him?
I have worked here for nine years. I took over from my mother. She worked my entire childhood maintaining the Summer Palace.
[Foreshadowing for clues in back nine]
So you know him well?
No, actually, I don’t. He hasn’t visited here in years. It’s been… too painful for him. Until now. ♪
This was my bedroom. Welcome home, Masha. ♪ I promised you the truth.
Liz: But… there was a fire. I… I shot my father. I remember.
Yes you shot Red in *his* house. Not this one. Liz lived with Red too.
Kirk: What’s the memory of a small child? You didn’t remember me or your mother or this room.
Reddington lied to you, Masha. He told you your father was dead, but thanks to you– what you did on the water– I’m very much alive. All the stories Reddington’s told you about who he is and his connection to you– he knew you were looking for answers and he took advantage of that to re-enter your life.
True to protect her from Red’s reality. He’s a man with no country. A spy master, killer, who gave up his career for one woman.
Know anyone else who’s on the verge of doing the same thing?
Kirk: Do you know why I call this cottage the Summer Palace? We came here for a vacation one July, and my little princess loved it. It’s been a palace ever since.
One summer that changed everything. She was four-leading up to the horrible fire in December.
She wasn’t at the Summer Palace. She was with her “papa” in the states.
Tom: I’m gonna find her.
No you’re not. Red did. And Orci eliminated Tom from the Summer Palace. Huge deal.
So um do ppl see where the arc is going? Expect a few drop in scenes if they hadn’t happened already.
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A Scene From The Blacklist Season Finale “Mr. Kaplan” Featuring:
Susan Blommaert as Mr. Kaplan / Kathryn Nemec
James Spader as Raymond “Red” Reddington
So there really was only one ending for Mr. Kaplan, and that was her death. It just so happened to set off a chain of events. Though, it is sad to see Mr. Kaplan go, as she, too, was a bad ass and a formidable foe for Red. Having that personal connection made their fight so much more intense and emotional.She will certainly be missed, but her actions have definitely gotten things moving that will affect the story and characters going forward.Red is going to be in some big trouble when that suitcase does find its way to Liz.
Taking questions from fans of #TheBlacklist during a panel @c2e2. #MrKaplan #aram #c2e22017
From @c2e2 - On collaboration between the writers and actors @amirarison expanding on @jonbokenkamp comments. #susanblommaert also pictured. #TheBlacklist #fanpanel #c2e22017 #MrKaplan #aram
Why Can’t Dembe Forgive Raymond?
Because of... In Season 3-4 what did Dembe have trouble with? Red killing Kate. TO Be Continued... Keep the Faith.
