#msm2023

[eibbud]

more evidence that the symbiote turns you into a gigantic homosexual. ok girl

[multisakumonth2k]

plz u feel free to coment ur opinion, and sorry 4 the bad translation, if u see any mistakes I let u know english isn't mi 1st lenguage jsjs

[hawkogurl]

Yeah, I basically had a similar reading on Insomniac!Harry as you did, I think - I do like him a lot, and I definitely see why he would the most popular version of him in the fandom right now, but he's a very smoothed over and simplified version who feels written to be as broadly loveable as possible, if that makes sense? I read a very thoughtful critique of the game recently that described Harry as being Peter's 'comically perfect' best friend, and I think that gets at the game's take on him and ties neatly into what you said about how the characters in Insomniac feel like they're written mostly to serve Peter's story and character, which is not necessarily a bad thing when he's the protagonist, but can flatten characters into narrative devices who don't necessarily feel like full characters; and any time Harry could be perceived as doing or saying something flawed, he's justified, or at least it's understandable, and it doesn't help that the last part of the game where he's Venom was rushed (not the fault of the devs for being pushed by corporate to meet a deadline they couldn't meet ofc) and it's not really clear how much is the symbiote amplifying his emotions, manipulating him, or outright controlling him like a puppet for its own agenda - but any way, it's very easy and probably correct to read him as not being truly at fault for anything.

Regarding Norman, my take is that I don't necessarily mind an interpretation of him that focuses on corporate greed and lack of ethics while exploring what if Norman was villainous, but genuinely loves and cares for his son in this universe, but MSM2 weirdly wanted both that and the usual drama from Harry being jealous of an abusive Norman choosing Peter over him, so we got that awkward scene where Norman is doing no such thing and still being a great father, but Harry mistakenly believes he's choosing Peter - so it's manufactured drama to follow the universes where Norman is abusive and Harry has issues from that, but here, everyone is still a good or at least neutral person at worst and it's all an honest mistake, which goes back to what you said about taking the edge out of the characters here - doesn't mean they're bad, like you also clarified, but definitely softer.

Can’t form intelligent thoughts because I need to go to sleep but I’m going to say I agree with all of the above. He’s very palatable in a way that just becomes boring for me. I’ll probably come back and contribute later when I’m not barely conscious.

For now, I agree especially because them wanting the Norman drama but also sort of pussying out of the Norman drama sort of like… feels like a good example of what I mentioned in that when you write an established character but change a major aspect of them, you need to compensate. They wanted the benefits of those arcs but weren’t willing to either include the original arcs or do the work to come up with something that can get to point b in a different way with what they’ve kept. It’s not the best writing decision in my opinion. And I agree with that articles assessment he feels like, comically perfect. Scrubbing away all his unsavory aspects lost him a lot of the ways he’s flawed and interesting because it often feels he exists solely to progress Peter’s arc rather than having the personal drama he often has.

I don’t personally like these softer versions. I’m not gonna say it’s bad or wrong to like those versions, but they definitely feel watered down when it’s not looked at in isolation or looked at more critically. It rapidly became boring for me.

[eibbud]

norman osborn has been trying to take this video down for over ten years

[hawkogurl]

Venom/Harry/ Peter threesome confirmed? In all seriousness though, it’s fucked that they have to censor it.

Can’t believe they’re censoring Harry giving Peter sloppy head.

[hawkogurl]

Every day I am shaken by the memory insomniac Harry isn’t canonically chubby and I made that up in my head.

[hawkogurl]

Hiiii do you have any insomniac parksborn fic recs

I’ll be real, I’m generally not as into insomniac because to me it can feel like they, for lack of a better term, took a lot of the Spice out of characters I normally like so it can personally feel kinda boring and they structure their supporting cast in a way that’s just not my personal taste and have also developed a bad habit of using Miles as nothing but a vehicle to progress Peter’s character arc. However, I can say that I have very much enjoyed covetphantom7 on ao3’s works.

[eibbud]

another gwarry wip. picture taken of them when they thought they were heterosexual