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I keep seeing reviews for Maggie Stiefvater's new book The Listeners, which say things like "trc fans won't like this because it doesn't have a thrilling action plot" and I would like to know if those authors have ever met a trc fan

#the listeners #maggie stiefvater #mstief #trc #“thrilling action plot” is an actual quote #tá mé #the dreamer trilogy

her goodreads reviews always captivate me

#to have her brain......#mstief #lie's rambles

what still kills me about marie/marie is that its so fucking unnecessary. we as the audience had NEVER heard of grandma lynch beyond a vague mention in opal. she could have just NOT done the two maries. it added nothing. we could have saved an entire 3 pages to maybe use to answer ANY OF THE TEN BILLION QUESTIONS WE ALREADY HAD

#she needed an editor so bad bro #td3 #mstief #as voop said like if the lynch brothers themselves dont gaf WHY SHOULD WE #what does knowing about the fiddler uncle do for any of us :sob:#u could argue that showcasing niall lynchs mommy issues is relevant but is it really. it just adds a weird hereditary fruedism layer #we already figured it was his grandpappy that was the problem HES DEAD CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE ALIVE CHARACTERS #god. insane ''''redemption'''' arc

anyways since the theme of post-TRK seems to be that every single character ignores any development they had and gets worse, I'm listing everything out here + with a rating of how likely I, the authority of everything ever, think it was. greywaren spoilers obviously

1. Declan: Decides Dad was good all along, disregards real actual emotional abuse and parentification as "misremembering" how great Niall was. 6/10. CDTHEU Declan is a very different character to TRK Declan, I still think he's been too self aware throughout to suddenly walk it back THIS severely. I predict a severe breakdown for him age 30 since I've never witnessed someone do Denial as their last stage of grief.. it’s gonna be explosive

2. Ronan: Disregards his family for the majority of his arc, is worse to them than in TRC. does not call gansey for months. finds a new FP instead of a therapist. emotionally worse off. does find himself via terrorism I guess? 9/10. pretty on brand for Ronan to go scorched earth and suffer zero consequences. I do wish he was made aware of his birth circumstances and displayed the same love/grief for aurora/niall that he's shown in every book except greywaren. are you telling me he can look at the New Fenian and be OKAY?????

3. Adam: ‘Reinvents’ himself, suffers, lies, suffers again. Does not call gansey. Suffers in the VoidSpace, apparently with no lasting consequences. becomes a narc. 7/10. I was hoping for a more self aware adam post TRK but him choosing to pull a Henry Cheng is also pretty on brand. wish he'd actually broken up with Ronan for at least a week. him becoming a narc is unfortunately pretty accurate to character but government jobs are not famously well paying so it really does feel random? the only thing he’s done that’s close to sleuthing is inventing pedo murder charges for his teacher/keeping with the bryde stuff. plus he's still not utilizing his magic skill so this just feels like a continuation of the Harvard arc for the rest of his life which is REALLY baffling when u compare how many times TRK insists he's a magician and will remain a magician/psychic despite everything. seems he's growing MORE disconnected with himself. i’m all for negative development but it’s really being framed as a happy ending which is baffling ngl

4. Gansey: has a sociology degree + is only associated with blue (and nobody else) in the 4-5 years since TRK. Completely reversed his stance on henrietta being home, on "I'd take all of you anywhere with me", on his dedication to history/archeology. does not seem too concerned about Ronan going insane, still odd despite the time he's had to get used to it. 5/10. horrible representation of gansey but I DO like that he's focusing on himself instead of raising pynch. as i say this i remember the ring thing and grit my teeth. complete ignorance of Henry AFTER his whole "friends forever and ewer" TRK thing gives me a good playground to make things worse so I like it but it's definitely weird. how did being a teenager specifically suck for you king because I think Being Dead trauma is unrelated to age

5. Matthew: nearly found independence + love in the abrasive way that lynches give it, then was disregarded emotionally and still not given an apology for the Everything from declan. 8/10. extremely on brand for the lynches to not hold each other accountable. Matthew seems to have improved somewhat + Declan is less overbearing about him, so I like it, I'll take it

6. Henry: went into Seondeok's black market low level mob business, got divorced?, does not speak to bluesey. 10/10. it’s so bad. absolutely off brand for the entire theme of him rejecting the Orders his mother who Literally Forced him to come to henrietta gave him (did not begin this game looking for a friend etc). refutes the entire "find your own something more" theme, refutes the "three of us" theme, refutes the "im going to make something great" motives. and I love it. TRULY my worst ending for Henry is becoming yet another fairy market nepotism casualty. he will Literally never escape and it’s FANTASTIC it is so much fun. Ha Ha You Have Become Your Mother

7. Fenian/Mor: live at the fucking barns now. 1/10. you are telling me a series whose entire THING is based on growing up/overcoming grief/moving on ends with THE FUCKING LYNCH FAMILY BACK AT THE BARNS?????????? WHAT THE HELL???? WHY IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH ANY OF THIS??????????????????????????????????????????????????

#mostly i want to reference this and see if my eventual reread changes my opinions #greywaren #dreamer trilogy #cdtheu #mstief

#yes im a hater #yes I was inspired by the wack ass neil gaiman post #tdt #trc #mstief #do I kind of want her to see this?#maybe....

hi there! very random, but i’ve been wondering whether or not i should register for the april trc webinar, and since i’ve seen your posts from the one in jan, i wanted to ask — would you recommend it/did you enjoy it? i think i would like it, i just dont know enough abt it and i’m terrified of spending that much (my country’s currency,,, the us dollar,,,, very far apart asgehhd) on smth only for it to be something different than to what i thought lol😭. i’m just kinda looking for smth w/ tidbits abt trc and some writing advice — was it like that for you, kind of?

Hey!! Thanks for asking, I know other people have been curious about it in the tags so maybe this will help. First off I wanna say that if you want something cheaper, she has a prerecorded 8-hour writing seminar available for $29 here, which is a steal bc I think it was like $80 when I bought it. I haven’t gone through the whole thing yet, but from what I have watched I can say its a very structured step-by-step guide to writing a novel, where she does give examples of her writing process from her own books, including trc. The main difference between that and the live webinar is that the live webinar is live, and it’s SOLELY trc-focused - meaning she still presents very structured topics for novel writing but uses only trc to illustrate her points. It’s definitely tailored to series-writing and young adult-writing. I would say you are also way more likely to get tidbits and behind the scenes insights into her trc writing process and early drafts - though because its live there’s a chance she may have said some things in the one I attended that she wouldn’t say in the other or vice versa. You also get to ask questions in the live one which makes the experience unique.

In other words, beyond the live aspect, I would say the pre-recorded seminar is for anyone who wants to write a novel and is maybe a fan of her books, whereas the live webinar is for people who are fans of trc and maybe want to write a novel. Does that make sense?

Let me know if you want to know anything else, but I hope this helps a little!

#trc #maggie stiefvater #mstief #the raven cycle #answers