#naegami bashing

[viosmre]

There's not a single good thing about Naegami. It's an awful ship and the only way to make it work is to strip away everything that makes Byakuya himself. I've tried reading some fics just for more Byakuya content but had to stop each time because he's simply mischaracterized so much.

He's either an unforgivable asshole or this tsundere, both of which aren't him at all. And that's because it simply doesn't work. Naegami doesn't work but otherwise people can't have the uwu soft gay x tsundere cold gay ship they love to fetishize so much.

It's just gross. There are plently of gay ships with actually interesting dynamics that fit, but Naegami is not one of them. Waiting until the day people realize that.

[viosmre]

Tbh, you can't call yourself a Byakuya fan but then also ship Naegami. It just doesn't go together because if you even had an inkling of an idea of what Byakuya's character is like, you wouldn't ship Naegami.

I've tried reading Naegami fics out of desperation for new Byakuya content. And guess what, they all made me want to throw up with how OOC Byakuya- and Makoto too honestly- was in them.

No. Byakuya isn't actually insecure. Nor does he 'need' Makoto or something else like that. And he wouldn't think less of himself for liking Makoto, he would instead put Makoto higher.

But if you take those things into consideration, the ship doesn't work anymore. Because it simply isn't supposed to work. But you people don't want to realize that because how else can you put your fetishes and kinks onto these characters even though it doesn't make any sense?

You simply can't. But Naegami shippers don't care about things like that. They don't care about actual good ships or developing relationships because all they want is a 'tsundere dominant guy' x 'uwu submissive guy'. So, that is what they make Naegami to be, even though it doesn't work in the slightest.

Just ew. Think I might actually go crazy from seeing these inaccurate analysis posts of Byakuya from Naegami shippers. Didn't think people could be so wrong about a character, but here we are.

[viosmre]

Seems like I was right to call out Naegami shippers before because these stupid fuckers that can't comprehend a ship not working have now started to harass people for not liking their ship.

They are literally so pathetic. Just go realize that your ship doesn't work and move on.

[viosmre]

I won't lie to you man, I thought I was the only crazy selective Byakuya fan until you showed up. You're 10 steps ahead of me! Now it seems I'm in the middle when it comes to Byakuya headcanons.

I don't HC him suicidal, but I like to think he has a few issues in that head of his. Obviously not canon but it prevents him from becoming one-dimensional in my eyes.

I would never ship him with Toko, Makoto, or Chihiro but I literally ship him with everyone else.

I like to change his personality sometimes but it's more of persona/situational thing where you act much different around siblings versus when you're around peers. And I enjoy seeing what others come up with as long as I don't see Makoto lingering around to influence that but I also don't use those HCs for myself because I see him differently from what the 4 other Byakuya fans see him as.

Byakuya definitely has shit going on, for sure. But I really can't stand when people say he's suicidal or some stupid like that. He's not secretly soft or something for Makoto to fix.

And most Byakuya ships are cute. Like, give me some Togiri where Kyoko and Byakuya challenge each other academically. Or some Enogami where the two are just absolutely awful. Love me some Leogami too.

Really just any dynamic where they stay actual people and don't get reduced to stupid fetish tropes.

I can see Byakuya being more open around certain people, but that's something that'll take time, and will only happen when he sees them on the same level as himself.

[viosmre]

What makes you so angry about people analysing his character? There is certainly signs of instability in Byakuya himself, I mean who just fucks with a crime scene for fun? I'd like to know why you hate people reading into his backstory, because after what he went through you're bound to be at least *somewhat* hurt on the inside. And what's so wrong with Naegami shippers? Coming from someone who has read into Togami and has analysed him quite a lot, I can see how some view him as a suicidal character.

If you really looked into his character, you would know why he messed with Chihiro's body. Or the fact that he literally says part of the reason in the game... He did that because he wanted to see who could solve the truth, that's what he says in the game.

As for the other part? It was a way to out Genocider Syo/Jill. Yk, the serial killer who murders boys she likes... like Byakuya... It was a way to ensure his safety.

And there's a difference between a bit hurt and actually being very insecure and feeling like he isn't worthy of his title. The first one is fine, that makes sense. But the second... yeah, no. Not with Byakuya. He is confident, practically overly confident. That's his fault, his weakness. Not being an''uwu soft boy' on the inside or some crap like that.

As for the Naegami part, most of the time these mischaracterisations come from Naegami shippers so Makoto can 'make him feel better' or something stupid like that. The idea of Naegami is fine, but the way people make it simply doesn't work and is border-on fetishization. The dynamic people make them have doesn't work. It's just so they can have dominant x submissive or something else like that, though Naegami shippers aren't ready to admit that.

There's a good way to write their dynamic, yes. And I've seen a few people do that, but most don't. Most go for the mischaracterisation to add 'depth' to Byakuya that makes him a different character.

And... he really isn't suicidal. Or we really forgetting his moment in the Chapter 4 trial?

He doesn't understand feelings, he doesn't understand suicide. And what reason would he even have to feel like that? Like, feeling suicidal is a very serious thing and Byakuya simply doesn't fit that bill.

He doesn't mind the situation in the killing game, believing he's above it all and can win. As for his life before? It was perfect- he was perfect. Does that sound like a suicidal person to you? No.

So, that's why I'm angry. Because some people are trying to make Byakuya into something he's not. Maybe in some big AU I can see him being suicidal, sure. But here? God, no. It's not even mischaracterization at that point but a fully different character.

Byakuya has a big ego. He isn't actually insecure. He quite literally believes himself to be better than practically everybody else. Anybody who has even read a bit into his character knows this. Stop trying to make him a fully different character, it simply doesn't work.