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Happy Halloween! We are joined by Trick-or-Treaters to help us do a deep dive into this seminal and infamous episode of the series: Zehra Fazal (fan-turned-actor), Dezzie C. (host of The Gargoyle Nation YouTube Channel), Nicole Dubuc (fan-turned-writer) and Greg Weisman! We discuss the tricks and terrors of “Future Tense”. Goliath’s nightmarish return to Manhattan which has fallen under totalitarian rule. Where the friends and enemies they’ve left behind after forty years have gone. The art direction. The script. The many twists and turns on this emotional rollercoaster where nothing is what it seems… and what this all might mean moving forward.
Fun fact! Nicole wrote a similar episode in the first season of “Young Justice” titled “Failsafe”!
But before all of that, we have News and First Impressions. We have some brief news on Dynamite’s Gargoyles Kickstarter and then we give our First Impressions on Marvel Comics’ “Fantastic Four x Gargoyles”. SPOILERS: 2:30 to 12:30.
Available on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Audible, Spotify, and your podcatcher of choice! And join us on Patreon for the Exclusive Video Edition!
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Random fun facts about the Burns:
Please Note: This is all information I (mostly) collected from Nicole Dubuc’s Twitter.
If you would like me to add screenshots as some sort of ‘evidence’ it might take a small while, and I simply made this post to have all information collected in one place.
Age (at start of show):
Cody: 10
Graham: 20
Dani: 21
Kade: 22
Charlie: 52 (but 53 in ‘Little White Lies’)
Favourite Colour:
Cody: Orange
Graham: Green
Dani: Blue
Kade: ‘Himself (even if it’s not a colour)’
Charlie: Grey
Second Language:
Graham: French
Dani: Japanese, and apparently sign language
Kade: Spanish (took it in school but remembers none of it)
Charlie: Spanish
Bonus:
Woodrow: Many (Greek, Latin, Aramaic, Urdu, Gorilla, Japanese, reads Hieroglyphics and more).
Favourite ‘Copyrighted Materials’:
Cody: Action-adventure
Graham: Myth Busters
Dani: NASCAR and romantic comedies
Kade: Blockbusters (especially ‘Maven Danger’ (James Bond))
Charlie: NCIS (the show)
Activities done with Cody when he was younger:
All siblings babysat him at some point.
Graham: He used to wow him with science experiments from his science kit. They also built their own tree fort together.
Dani: She was probably the best at babysitting Cody, because they liked similar things, and Dani always shared her stuffed animals with Cody. She liked to refine his basketball skills so she could have him on her team against Kade and Graham in family games.
Kade: He was super-protective of Cody when he was little, and Cody hero-worshipped him for awhile - until he figured out that “let's do Kade's chores" is not actually a game.
Charlie: This is with his family in general, they had ‘board game nights’ and ‘movie nights’, along with ‘story night’ (when everyone unplugs and just shares tales).
‘All the Burns kids love Cody and liked hanging out with him.’
Which Hogwarts house they would be in:
Cody: Gryffindor
Graham: Ravenclaw
Dani: Gryffindor
Kade: Hufflepuff (but would be mistaken to be a Gryffindor)
Charlie: Gryffindor
Have you seen Major Dad (1989-1993)?
Yes
Partially
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OMG
November 24, 1987 - Shannen invited family and friends for her 16th birthday party held at Scandia Restaurant. Shannen was honored by "Teen Magazine" as an 'Outstanding Teen of '88' at the party.
Photo 2) With her parents Rosa and Tom.
Photo 3) With Jonathan Ward star of "Beans Baxter" and Jason Herve star of "Mr. President".
Photo 4) With Shalane McCall star of "Dallas" and Keith Coogan star of "Hiding Out".
Photo 5) With Keri Houlihan co-star of "Our House", Shalane McCall star of "Dallas" (right rear) and Brandon Call.
Photo 6) With John Phillip Law, star of over 50 movies and 1987 Hockey Star of the Year Luc Robitaille.
Photo 7) With Tanya Crowe star of "Knots Landing" and Shalane McCall star of "Dallas”.
Photo 8) With “Our House” co-stars Nicole Dubuc and Keri Houlihan.
Photo 9) With Tanya Crowe star of "Knots Landing" and Shalane McCall star of "Dallas”.
Photo 10) (L-R) Keith Coogan, Shalane McCall, Tanya Crowe and Nicole Dubuc, Shannen Doherty and Keri Houlihan, Luc Robitaille and an unknown girl and Brandon Call, Jonathan Ward and 2 unknown people.
Transformers: Prime Director’s Cut, Ep21-23
T.M.I. (n/a)
Stronger, Faster (Mairghread Scott, Shaunt Nigoghossian, Jeffrey Combs)
-first episode Mairghread got to write
-Shaunt’s fav episode
-”I wanted to prove that [Ratchet] could be the war hero” -Mairghread
-”I wanted someone to stand up to Optimus, to talk about how frustrating this is” -Mairghread
-VA’s don’t get much time to practice, script comes 1-2 days before recording
-”I like that I get to beat the holy... poo-poo out of [the Jeticons]” -Jeffrey
-*scene: Ratchet backflips into the air, grabs a vehicon’s head and smashes it into the ground* “That move there was supposed to be him doing that to Megatron at the end, but we had to cut the ending” -Shaunt about Ratchet’s first fight scene in the episode
-Synth-en was green because it wouldn’t have been as obvious of a color chance bc the other Autobots have blue eyes
-”This was my favorite in the record, because you [Jeffrey] were just sitting there, wacking Kevin [M. Richardson] on the shoulder, ‘COME AT ME BULKHEAD, COME AT ME’. I thought he was gonna hit you back!” -Mairghread
-”Ratchet needs a leather jacket right now”
-episode was cut-down a lot bc too many good moments
-”Don’t worry, I’m an emergency vehicle” was the story-editor’s addition to the script
-(laughs at miner con getting conked on the head with the rock) “We’re mean spirited people” “We are”
-instead of the rock, ratchet was initially going to chase the miner down in alt mode
-Mairghread was surprised the blowtorch scene w/ ratchet made it through
-”Frank actually puts his hands out in front of his face [in the same manner as Megatron]”
-”Originally, I had Megatron turn his back to Ratchet, and that’s how Ratchet got the sucker punch” -Mairghread
-wiping the energon off of Megatron’s lips was Mairghread’s husband’s idea
-Knock Out, Starscream, and Ratchet were the most fun to write
One Shall Fall (Nicole Dubuc, Joseph Kuhr, Vinton Heuck, Augusto Barranco)
-This episode was going to be the s1 finale, and the following 3 as a mid-summer special, but all four ended up airing as a four-part finale instead
-”if you’re watching this 10 years from now, there was a meme about LOLCATZ”
-Originally, in the first skirmish of the episode, Breakdown was present, but was cut to streamline the story
-Bumblebee’s mirror rotating to see Raf’s hand falling is the “I’m not dead yet” moment to give a sigh to the audience
-The original premise was that hurting Raf was intentional on Megatron’s part, and that he would start “transforming” and a psychic connection between him and Unicron would form, but was cut to keep focus more squarely on Optimus and Megatron
-Originally, Ratchet and June were going to work together to treat Raf
-”[Optimus + Bulkhead] are too unforgiving to those troopers”
-the establishing shots of Earth were used as a timer ticking down, but were going to be more explicit beforehand (ie 30 days and counting)
-the color department has notoriously had trouble with bright purple colors bc it became pinkish
-*Optimus: ‘Do not believe everything you read’* “...which is not Optimus telling children not to read. I read that comment online somewhere.” “That’d be a great library poster” (laughter)
-to save Raf, an energon defibrillator would have been used but was changed to the chamber because they thought it’d be like zapping a bug with a bug zapper
-the wheel-to-the-face almost didn’t happen, because his armor wouldn’t happen normally, but was able to stay in because Hartman insisted it be kept in to Polygon
-originally, the episode ended with the other Autobots running to Optimus’s location a few moments after where the current episode ends