#oks-logistics

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@nsjsiwihwwu8wjdf8w0wbdhid replied to your post “Hello! Just found this IF and I am enjoying it...”:

For future reference, there's an extension on firefox called Choicescript Game Tools, it has various features but most relevant is the Back button. Very useful; it works on published Choice games, too. Just be sure to turn off the notifications about variable changes as that can get a little janky (on mobile, at least)

You can find it over here for anyone interested. It works on the other Mozilla-based browsers too. I've currently got it installed on Waterfox. Alas, Firefox extensions don't work on iOS, but if you're on Android or a computer, it's something to try.

I don't think it works on my site, though? It seems site specific, so it works on the official COG site, Dashingdon (RIP), and CoGdemos.

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Could you do a magic stat tierlist to complete the collection? I imagine the thresholds are a bit different, what with the human average being 0 and all

That's not going to be as helpful as the other stats as Magic, unlike Physical, Intelligence, and Charisma, starts very low and is still ratcheting up throughout the first game. All thresholds may very well change depending upon the statistics I get back from players, much more for this stat than the others.

Not to mention, magical affinity by itself can't really do jack at the higher levels without the knowledge/experience to use it.

Here it is right now (once again, subject to change)

0

Feat: Most modern humans with the magical affinity of potatoes

1+

Feat: Even one point of magic is enough to start getting strange feelings and premonitions about things.

7+

Feat: MC was able to see the weaves of Merlin's spell on the RV when activated.

10+

Feat: MC was actually able to create a rudimentary magical ward for the RV themselves & was able to better sense the major spell that hit the east coast of the USA in Chapter2-2

13+

Feat: MC was still able to see Merlin's enchantment even as it was dying off. There are no higher magic checks in the game to this point.

20 - 30: Most modern mages would be in this level

Feat: With training, capable of lower level spells compared to what was going on during Camelot. Higher level demons would tear through the protective wards created by these mages like tissue, however.

30: The Glass Ceiling for top-level modern mages.

Feat: This is pretty much as powerful as a modern mage can get at this point, with the Veil still up and the mortal plane still in a magic drought. Tops out at flying and fireballs and such. Yes, whoever it was running around with Magic 40 would have the modern mages shitting themselves right now, even if the MC doesn't have the knowledge to actually use it.

50: The peak of human magic

Feat: This is the threshold for normal top-level human enchanters & mages, past which you get freaks of nature and the inhuman. But Camelot had a lot of freaks of nature wandering around it.

60+: The Camelot magic-builds for the (mostly) human

Feat: Morgause the Witch-Queen of Orkney. Klingsor the Penisless Necromancer. Rowena of Jutland. The higher levels of magic such as necromancy are possible here (as well as small scale time bubbles). Castle or battlefield-sized enchantments.

70+ Camelot and not so human anymore

Feat: Gyneth the Enchantress (Genie). Gwynn ap Nudd (but not Arawn at his full power) Morgana le Fay. Sebile of la Terre Fae. Magic on a wide scale that can envelop whole cities.

100+ Gods & Demon Princes

Feat: This is the realm of the Gods (and their counterparts) now. Most of the Celtic ones such as Maponos, Arianrhod, Rhiannon would top out at 100 at the height of their power. The Christian Almighty is supposedly 100+

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Can you do a post similar to ones about the body and mind stat for charm?

All the main stats (except Magic, which hasn't had anywhere near as much chance to be raised yet) have the same thresholds for checks.

Less than 10: Oh boy. Not only are you naturally charming as a rock, but you have trouble reading other people's intentions as well. Quasimodo in his belltower is the goal that you (fail to) reach for.

Feat: You have somehow managed to mess up winking at someone, and people might mistake your flirting for death glares. There really hasn't been any <10 stat checks, however.

10 - 20: Yeah, charisma is definitely not your thing, but people generally aren't walking across the street to avoid you either.

Feat: You are a normal, if somewhat unremarkable adult. People wouldn't be too surprised if you ended up a Cat Lady hermit, however. But, please note, that charm works on animals as well, so the cats might have other ideas.

20 - 30: A normal adult that can talk with others without shoving their foot in their mouth.

Feat: If you at least have 1 - 10 points in mind as well, then the MC should be able to pass perception checks that involve understanding human behavior. The strategical, memory, and education ones... not so much. But hey, the little dog you can meet on the street in the game is wagging its tail at you instead of baring its teeth!

30 - 40: It's the charmer who can get their way with things!

Feat: This is where the bulk of the charm checks lie. You can distract a certain security guard from a certain dancing mage at this point.

50: Peak human charisma. You're going down in history and people are building statues in your honor.

Feat: Passing all the charm checks ever. At least the human ones.

50+: Now we're verging on the magically bewitching.

Feat: This is the realm of the fae and the magical anglerfish luring prey in. Who do you think you are, Merlin?

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I don’t know if you know this, but Dashingdon might be closing down soon.

Thanks for the heads up, I'm going to go ahead and jump this to the head of the queue before I get any more of these.

One Knight Stand has always been hosted on my own site, not Dashingdon (which doesn't allow the uploading of .OGG files), so it's not affected. My old Evertree Inn fangame, on the other hand...

This really sucks, though, since we're about to lose a whole bunch of games & WIPs whose authors aren't paying attention right now, just like what happened when Dropbox stopped allowing the native running of HTML files. RIP When in Rome and The Freakhouse: A Touch Of Lilium.

I know that people are trying to download all the public games in a "preserve lost media attempt" but you know something is gonna get left behind. ( ⚆﹏⚆ ) Also, I stopped playing WIPs on Moody.ink/COGdemos.ink because those sites were just too buggy...

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got a bunch of stuff to download now.

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"Average" MC as of Chapter 2-4

All right, putting aside the free Reevaluations Hub, the most popular activity during the first Free Time segment for the MC was...

Interacting with Merlin

And it wasn't even close, which rather surprised me. Merlin nearly doubled the next closest popular activities, which were Doing Chores, Interacting with Adrian, and Training Skills.

Merlin: (≖ᴗ≖๑) Naturally.

Apparently, people still can't get enough lore dumps from Merlin for... some reason. Well, Merlin's part of the Free Time Hub was the longest section, so I guess that's good.

Stats for the 'Average' MC

Average Magic: 14 (Low 0, High 37) Average Physical: 27 (Low 5, High 80) Average Mental: 31 (Low 7, High 80) Average Charm: 25 (Low 5, High 81)

Personality for the 'Average' MC

Timid/Bold: 145 (Very Bold) Sour/Sweet: 97 (Sweet) Serious/Sassy: 55 (Slightest Bit Sassy) Pessimist/Optimist: 58 (Slightly Optimistic)

Miscellaneous Traits

Average Silence: 19 (Trending to quiet side) Average Fear Level: 2.5 (Calm) Average Phobia Level: 3.8 (Although someone managed to wrack their phobia up to Level 7!)

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"Average" MC as of Chapter 2-3

And here's all the collated stats so far for the "average" MC for those who sent in their end scene stats from the public Beta.

85% of MCs experienced a perfectly normal ley line (no demon attacks in sight!)

97% of MCs are definitely not sabotaging a certain RV

65% of MCs were the Rock, Paper, Scissors Champion (excluding cheating cheaters who cheat)

Average Merlin Affinity: 75% (Max: 100, Min: 50)

Average Merlin Bold Flirting: 0.5

Average Merlin Subtle Flirting: 0.8

Average Adrian Affinity: 85% (Max: 134, Min: 8)

Average Adrian Bold Flirting: 1

Average Adrian Subtle Flirting: 2.2

Average Arthur Affinity: 57%

Average Arthur Bold Flirting: 0.12

Average Arthur Subtle Flirting: 0.16

Average Percy Affinity: 60%

4% of MCs are Percy's soulmate

20.5% of MCs are now being called "Mcgillicuddy" by Percy

Average Magic: 14 (Max: 40, Min: 0)

Average Physical: 27 (Max: 69, Min: 5)

Average Mental: 32 (Max: 62, Min: 6)

Average Charisma: 25 (Max: 74*, Min: 5)

*Apparently someone is secretly Aphrodite here. And Hercules might be lurking around too.

Bold/Timid Average: 129 (Max Bold: 223, Max Timid: -23)

Sweet/Sour Average: 76 (Max Sweet: 222, Max Sour: -127)

Sass/Serious Average: 36 (Max Sass: 219, Max Serious: -91)

Optimist/Pessimist Average: 53 (Max Opt: 160, Max Pess: -79)

Caution Average: 30.5 (Max: 60, Min: -11)

Will Average: 10 (Max: 26, Min: -12)**

Denial Average: -0.3 (Max: 13, Min: -8)

Cuckoo Average: 19.7 (Max: 77, Min: 0)

Silent Average: 21.6 (Max: 73, Min: 4)

Fear Level: 3 (Max: 16, Min: -12)

**Unfortunately the table for Willpower bugged out, so I had to roll it back to a January 9th save, so some people's data might've been lost here.

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How long will we be able to pull off a 0 in magic and how bad of an idea is that? I made a valiant attempt last run but managed to snag one single point in magic somewhere after meeting Percy.

I'm not really keeping track of exactly how low a skill stat can be, just of the thresholds where one can pass/fail a skill check. No clue how feasible it is to remain with 0/1 magic points, but that is definitely ending once the MC gets their Camelot incarnation memories back at the end of the first game.

Otherwise, while there are times when having a low amount of an otherwise good skill/talent/whathaveyou can be beneficial (or the vice versa, as some people on the forums discovered how having a high fear level -- which is generally bad -- can actually get them a special scene with Adrian), keeping your skills low is generally not a good thing.

At least not if you're not purposefully trying to get all those "worst skill fail" scenes.

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would you be willing to do this ask

but with the mind stat?

It's basically the exact same thresholds, only applying to the mental stat checks instead.

Less than 10: I r not 2 smert. Think Homer Simpson or Peter Griffith.

Feat: Not passing a mental check ever. You remember nothing. You have the perception of dirt. Don't even get started on strategizing or noticing hidden details.

10 - 20: More or less what's expected (to varying degrees) for a healthy adult that isn't really focusing on mental stats.

Feat: You aren't mistaking "esoteric" for a food. There usually isn't a sub < 20 check for intelligence, however.

20 - 30: Adult in their prime that actually does focus a bit on mental exercises and intelligence-related stats.

Feat: If you at least have 1 - 10 points in charm as well, then the MC should be able to pass perception checks that involve understanding human behavior. The strategical, memory, and education ones... not so much.

30 - 40: Verging on the genius tier. When people think of a smart cookie, MC comes to mind.

Feat: This is the base level to start passing the general perception checks, noticing important details or if something is off, the hidden intelligence options will start appearing.

50: Peak human genius. Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, Leonardo da Vinci etc.

Feat: Passing all the mental checks ever. At least the human ones.

50+: Now we're verging on the psychic. Or rather, the magical.

Feat: If ((charm) + (mind)) is the most common type of perception check, then ((magic) + (mind)) will be the one for using magic... once you know what you're doing.

The way the mental stats work on One Knight Stand, instead of having the MC act dumb if they fail a mental stat check, the high intelligence options or the extra info presented by being perceptive is simply not there.