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Father Octavian is the Thin Gay Anglican Marine.

Tl;dr: Father Octavian is the Thin Gay Anglican Marine. It's just that simple.

I've allways felt there was a loose thread side thread in the 11th Doctor's story. Not so much with the Doctor, but with a side character.

We are introduced to Father Octavian in s05e04 "The Time of Angels". River Song promised him an army and she says she brought him the equivalent of an army: the Doctor. And he makes no objections after that. That simple introduction and he doesn't even ask "Doctor who?". Just immediately moves forward with full confidence in the Doctor.

Think about that. You're a space priest commander asking for an army and you get one crazy looking man and a redhead, and yet you don't ask any questions about it. Just immediately trusts River and the skills of the Doctor. Now it could be a plot oversight, but with Moffat's tendency for timey wimey-ness, there could be another idea:

Father Octavian knows about the Doctor, specifically this Doctor, because he was on Demons Run as the The Thin Gay Anglican Marine and saw him firsthand in s06e07 "A Good Man Goes to War".

Now a couple of reasons why I think so:

1) After Demons Run, the TGAM (It's less offensive than writing it all out 😊 ), has no partner. Remember, his head was cut off and the TGAM even realizes this only after the fact.  This could allow him to rise up through the ranks much easier. Being able to devote all of his time to a better cause.

2) Despite Madame Kovarian's plan working, many of the soldiers, like Colonel Runaway, suffered personal levels of humiliation. Including the TGAM, who is even given a momentary close-up shot of hesitation and concern about it all. This leaves him with an understanding of the Doctor's real power. (And helps to sets up Octavian's "I think, sir, you know me at my best." More there later...)

3) In s07e14 "The Name of the Doctor", we learn that the Kovarian chapter was actually a rogue branch of the Papal Mainframe. Meaning that what they did was unsanctioned. So assuming that they didn't court martial the grunts because they were simply following orders, then the TGAM is free to do as he pleases, militarily speaking.

4) Father Octavian tells the Doctor that River Song is under his supervision til she has completed the task he has set for her in order to bring down her sentence. So they have a close working relationship and he wishes to see her freed. He's mean to her, yes, but the TGAM/Octavian would know that River Song is technically a trained psychopath. He wants to help but also doesnt trust her despite that.

So short and sweet of it is that it would work out like this:

After being humiliated at Demons Run, losing the love of his life, and learning that he'd been lied to, the TGAM decides to devote himself to the better parts of space church, and grows up to be Father Octavian one day. Using his privilege of authority, he works to help rehabilitate/free River Song. Eventually one day he meets the Doctor again for one last adventure.

This is why he trusts him almost on sight. He knows the Doctor. Seen him in action first hand, and now he's like Lorna Bucket. In awe with the greatest respect. And why he blames the Doctor for the deaths he does too. Time traveling around he knows not to reveal too much, but still knows he can drop hints to the Doctor about being more mindful of the humans he surrounds himself with.

And all of this, is why Father Octavian tells the Doctor, "I think, sir, you know me at my best." He was able to redeem himself. To go from a soldier falling orders that loses their love and pride to their religion, to leading that religion in order to make up for the mistakes of theirs, and it's past. Octavian was proud in that moment to have finally done something helpful/good for the Doctor. Or at least, made himself a symbol to strive towards something better.

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Speaking of Missy, shout-out to whoever it was who pointed out that her and the Nethersphere in series 8 are the recycled vestiges of Moffat’s plan for Tasha Lem and the Papal Mainframe (“protecting you in this life and the next!”) for Matt Smith’s fourth series

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Lowkeyly thought the nun? Of the papal mainframe was going to get a lap dance from the doctor I guess I was wrong though 😢😢 I wish I wasn’t 💔

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