Okay so lemme elaborate here. I go on youtube to practice my debate skills, since the pickings there are usually pretty easy to handle, most often in favor of concepts and ideas that I believe in or am intimate with.
Some asshat on youtube: +PaperAnomaly first of all when public bathrooms were made nobody had gender identity in mind they had common sense in mind. If you are a male with a penis you use the men's room if you are a woman with a vagina you use the women's room again COMMON sense. Funny how you keep bringing up sexual deviance or arguing that breeding purposes has nothing to do with being man or a woman you and others like you seem to think your going to change the definition of what a man or woman are and basically like I said you want special treatment. So according to you its OK to call an obese person fat, it's OK to call a midget short, and it's OK to call a black person black but a man who wants to be a woman has to be treated special, and a woman who wants to be a man has to be treated special. Bible ain't got nothing to do with this I could care less about religion, science and common sense seem to have you at a disadvantage see you can stuff as much socks in your pants as you want, you can pretend to be the bearded lady all you want, you can dress like a hillbilly trucker all you want somebody takes your DNA you ain't coming up as no man. A man can chop his dick as much as he wants, or tape it to his thigh as much as he wants, he can put the most fancy size thirteen heels on, he can put the best linebacker fitting dress, guess what you take his DNA he's coming up as a man. So you can cry all you want you feel a certain way it don't make it reality. You want to pretend in your own life? That's fine I could care less but don't expect me to play along with the fantasy. Same goes for people in restrooms they're rights shouldn't be dumped on so a small minority with a fantasy can have more rights than them, girls in schools and public restrooms who feel uncomfortable shouldn't have to be told to eat it so you don't make a cross dresser upset.
My Response: Meet Michael Dillon http://library.transgenderzone.com/?page_id=635#.WG2mDyMrJYJ . Michael Dillon was born in 1915, and became the first transgender to go through FTM GRS in 1945, the same year WW2 ended, 20 years before the Civil Rights Movement took place. So not only did Surgeons, Endocrinologists, Physicians and Psychiatrists understand the plight of transpersons, but they understood it BETTER than the plight of black people asking for equal treatment beside white people. Or were black people asking for SPECIAL treatment? You tell me. Not old enough to prove that this isn't some "Modern Gender Identity SJW SnowFlake Pretend Game"? Okay. Meet Elagabalus, First Transgender Empress of Rome from 218-222 AD. Citation: http://outhistory.org/exhibits/show/tgi-bios/elagabalus And since the Ancient Romans had public bathhouses before public restrooms, Elagabalus's example is even more perfect here. Cuz what's more intimate than pissing together in public? BATHING together in public.
"Funny how you keep bringing up sexual deviance or arguing that breeding purposes has nothing to do with being man or a woman..." It does not take a man and a woman to make a baby. It takes a sperm fertilizing an ovum. Or are test tubes grandfathered in as females? Have we been wrong about sea horses all this time?
“you and others like you seem to think your going to change the definition of what a man or woman are and basically like I said you want special treatment." When Michael Dillon was alive, a man could only be defined as a man if he owned land, had a job, a house, a wife, and kids. A woman could only be defined as a woman if she had a husband, kids, and stayed home to make her career out of taking care of those kids. But by then women were changing their definitions of what women were: nurses, doctors, teachers, lawyers, mechanics, pilots, manufacturers, designers, architects, welders, fire fighters, etc.. Humanity is always morphing, always changing, always diversifying, always advancing. Earth is filled with diversity. there was not 1 prey, 1 predator, 1 human, 1 plant, 1 water. There are millions upon millions of animals, plants, humans, and brain structures. The more differing brain structures out there, the better our chances to survive as a species. Evolution supports Transgender. As for the special treatment part, if we wanted to be treated "special," we would be demanding the government to build gender-fluid restrooms in all existing public buildings. But we aren't, are we? We're asking if maybe, just maybe, people like you wouldn't mind not raping and killing us for using the toilet that makes us feel the most safe. The ONLY "special treatment" we get are from people like you calling us sick and disgusting and saying that we deserve to die. I know I don't walk around telling that to random strangers, why would you tell that to a transgender person just because you don't understand their story?
"So according to you its OK to call an obese person fat, it's OK to call a midget short, and it's OK to call a black person black but a man who wants to be a woman has to be treated special, and a woman who wants to be a man has to be treated special."
"In 1995 and 2000, two independent teams of researchers decided to examine a region of the brain called the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc) in trans- and cisgender men and women (Figure 2). The BSTc functions in anxiety, but is, on average, twice as large and twice as densely populated with cells in men compared to women. This sexual dimorphism is pretty robust, and though scientists don’t know why it exists, it appears to be a good marker of a “male” vs. “female” brain. Thus, these two studies sought to examine the brains of transgender individuals to figure out if their brains better resembled their assigned or chosen sex. Interestingly, both teams discovered that male-to-female transgender women had a BSTc more closely resembling that of cisgender women than men in both size and cell density, and that female-to-male transgender men had BSTcs resembling cisgender men." ( Citation link: http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/gender-lines-science-transgender-identity/ )
Nope. A woman who sees himself as a man has to be treated like a man, and a man who sees himself as a woman has to be treated like a woman.
"science and common sense seem to have you at a disadvantage.." According to my quote, and according to Harvard University's Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, it seems i have a lot more science to offer than YOU do :)
"you can stuff as much socks in your pants as you want," oh i don't have to! Check this shit out: https://www.google.com/search?q=strap-on+dildo+harness&espv=2&biw=1224&bih=775&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJ3PvC9qnRAhWB5CYKHcjGBe8Q_AUIBygC I can buy a dick bigger than yours!
"you can pretend to be the bearded lady all you want," I don't have to pretend, I have a beard and i LOVE it :)
"you can dress like a hillbilly trucker all you want" Oh man, is THAT what you think women are into these days? No wonder you're so butthurt, you got blueballs out the wazoo.
"somebody takes your DNA you ain't coming up as no man." You know what? GOOD. I don't care. I only care about looking like a man and feeling like one, as most if not ALL transgender people are concerned with. White people's DNA is more closely related to neanderthal DNA than people of other races, according to your logic, does that make you and I knuckle-dragging cave-dwellers? No. For MOST of us....
"A man can chop his dick as much as he wants, or tape it to his thigh as much as he wants, he can put the most fancy size thirteen heels on, he can put the best linebacker fitting dress, guess what you take his DNA he's coming up as a man." So tell me, if you saw one of these women walking down the street, you wouldn't hit on them? http://9gag.com/gag/aG9onLn/definitely-fooled-me-the-ladyboy-pageant-of-thailand
"So you can cry all you want you feel a certain way it don't make it reality." OH yes it does, the American Psychology Association says so!
"You want to pretend in your own life? That's fine I could care less but don't expect me to play along with the fantasy." Trust me, we wouldn't want you to.
"Same goes for people in restrooms.." I don't know if you know, but, uhm... Uhm... Transgender people in restrooms are PEOPLE... as well.
"...they're (*their) rights shouldn't be dumped on so a small minority with a fantasy can have more rights than them," What was that about not crying?? We, all 0.03% of the American population DON'T want special rights, we want EQUAL rights, and the ONE EQUAL RIGHT that we want is to piss in the vestibule that we feel most secure in. IDK about you, but I don't try to pick up dates in the bathroom, So unless you go pussy shopping next to a urinal, you have nothing to be scared of. You don't either way, but you deluded fools and your hollering for safe spaces away from the staggering number of 0.03 that are transgender, oh how ironic.
"girls in schools and public restrooms who feel uncomfortable shouldn't have to be told to eat it so you don't make a cross dresser upset." Actually, Transgenders have more to fear from the other cisgender girls in the bathroom than we do other Transgenders in the bathroom!
Citation: http://transadvocate.com/trans-student-attacking-girls-in-restroom-or-you-know-not_n_10284.htm
Citation: http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Woman-mistaken-for-transgender-harassed-in-7471666.php In fact, Transgender people have more of a right to be afraid of Cis-Gender people than Cis-genders do to be afraid Transgender people.
Citation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people
A LOT more. But no. You go on ahead and say YOU'RE the ones in danger, and that WE'RE the deluded threats to society....
What do you guys think?