The new face of compulsory dances! It’s so nice to see the turns and edge quality showcased. Juulia and Yuka look fabulous!
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The new face of compulsory dances! It’s so nice to see the turns and edge quality showcased. Juulia and Yuka look fabulous!
VM gave this Hall of Fame induction speech for Ann Shaw who was a 🇨🇦ice dancer, then judge, Skate🇨🇦 and ISU official. Two interesting things Tessa mentions- that Ann Shaw was responsible for VM doing the ISU demo videos for pattern dances ⬇️, and that the first reaction to Valse Triste at Team Camp (what’s now called High Performance Camp i think) was overwhelmingly negative, and that Ann Shaw was the only one who supported that program then
baby VM looking beautiful and very serious 😅🥰 doing these- Tessa says they were 12, don’t know if she means her or him
Anonymous asked:
Can you explain in baby language what the parts of the rd that change every season are? Street dance, midnight blues, blues variation, pattern dance, key points? I don’t really get any of it except that everyone has to do it. It seems like the midnight blues is a series of steps (?) that everyone has to perform, and that it’s an established thing. Is there some big old book of all these named sequences and one is picked each season?
First, yes, there is a big old book of pattern dances, and every season they pick one to skate.
Some Saucy definitions/explanations of your list:
street dance - the ISU’s (the governing body of figure skating) theme for this season’s rhythm dance, which is really just a way of saying that it won’t be a dance that originated in the ballroom, and will fall under their own list of suggestions, such as hip hop, the hustle, or swing.
midnight blues - a specific pattern dance chosen from the big old book to be skated this season
blues variation - not entirely sure what you mean without context, but I assume it revolves around the ways that teams have been changing the pattern dance to make it more individualized, even though it’s not normally allowed
pattern dance - also known as a compulsory dance. It is a set dance, in which all the steps, edges, turns, timing, and even where on the ice it will be skated, has been pre-determined, and every team will perform the same thing, as a way to compare oranges to oranges
key points - a new(er) adaptation within the chosen pattern dance, in which some steps/edges/turns are specifically chosen, and the skaters must do them exactly as described, in order to receive their levels/highest scores for them
Rhythm dances (currently) have 5 elements: twizzles, a short lift, a mid-line or diagonal step sequence, a section of a pattern dance, and a partial step sequence. Right now, the only thing that really changes which pattern dance the teams must perform, from season to season. Sometimes, the rules will change a little bit (like sometimes the mid-line/diagonal step sequence could be circular instead), but the basic 5 elements have been the same since the 2014/2015 season.
Hopefully you found that helpful, LOL. But now I’m gonna get really long and more detailed and I’m sorry. ;) Please excuse any repetition from the above.
Finnstep
So I’ve been meaning to post guides for pattern dance key points and finally made a page for it on tumblr. I want to do Tango Romantica and Argentine Tango since they are this season’s pattern dances, but I thought I would post the Finnstep first, since I already made a thread for it on twitter, but never got around to posting in on tumblr. I already had videos and screenshots, but now I have gifs as well since I got an external hard drive and finally freed enough space to use photoshop on my computer again. Making gifs also helped me notice things before that I didn’t with just the videos and screenshots. Also tumblr allows me to explain more with no character limit and also no risk of my browser running out of memory and losing the entire thread since you can’t save twitter drafts on the computer rip. Though it was hard getting all these gifs under the 3 MB limit lol.
Here are the key point features for the Finnstep in the 2013-2014 season. I’ll be making a guide on the Finnstep key points using the top 4 teams from the individual Sochi SD.
Here are the levels and GOE each team got on their Finnstep sections. D/W (pic 1) earned 15.86 points, V/M (pic 2) earned 14.86 points, I/K (pic 3) earned 15.79 points, and P/B (pic 4) earned 15.79 points.
In ice dancing, it looks like most teams generally have similar footwork/steps. Is this some sort of requirement? And how are they graded on this element if it's the same for each team?
The pattern dance in the short dance is the same for every team. The pattern dance changes every season. For example, this season’s pattern dance is the Rhumba, and last season’s was the Midnight Blues. The ISU has diagrams showing the exact turns and steps each dance team must do in the pattern, and skaters are judged on how well they execute the pattern. It’s easier to compare than other step sequences because all skaters are doing the exact same thing.
Other step sequences in ice dance do not have to be the same. The pattern dance has been a part of ice dance for nearly its entire history. Ice dancers used to compete in 3 segments - compulsory dance, original dance, and free dance. Since the 2010-11 season, the ISU merged the compulsory and original dances together into the short dance, and what used to be the compulsory dance became the pattern dance in the SD.
Hi! Are you knowledgeable about ice dance? If so, I have trouble differentiating between pattern dances and partial step sequences. Any help would be appreciated. (If not, that's ok) Thanks!
Thanks for asking!
I am not actually very good at ice dance. Singles is very much my specialty. With that said, pattern dances and partial step sequences are two very different things altogether. The pattern dance is usually quite obvious because you’ll see every team do it, while the partial step sequence is unique to each team. So that can be hard in real time, but if you watch closely, you’ll soon see the pattern that each team is repeating in the SD.
So the pattern dances for the international novice competitions was released. I don’t normally follow information like this, but it caught me eye because of the advanced novice dances. Pattern dances of course have been separated out based on how difficult they are, but to see that among the patterns for advanced novices include the Argentine tango and the paso doble was a surprise to me, considering that those two dances were used at the senior level.
Looking at the history of compulsory dances, I see that they were also used at the junior level, but the list of exclusively senior dances is small, and so back in the day when there was more than one compulsory dance assigned in a season, it wasn’t unusual for them to dip into the level that juniors also could do.
But reading the age restrictions of an advanced novice - must have reached the age of 10, but no more than 15 years old for women and no more than 17 for men - left me thinking about ten year olds doing the same dances as those competing at senior worlds or the Olympics, which is just… well, I wrote this post I was so surprised lol.
(Also: the interesting twist that if you’re competing at intermediate novice, in particular, having to know and practice twice as many patterns, because depending on the competition, you could have to compete either of the groups.)
Hi I know you aren't as familiar with ice dance, but (hopefully) you (or someone else) can help me out. What's the difference between a pattern dance and a partial step sequence? I have trouble distinguishing the two elements. Thanks!
The pattern dance is a predetermined SD step sequence that changes every season. Each team has to do the same pattern, with the same steps in the same order, with the same holds. There are many types of pattern dances and they have specific names, eg. last season’s Midnight Blues, next season’s Rhumba, etc. You can see a list of pattern dances and diagrams here.
The partial step sequence (now renamed to “pattern dance type step sequence”) is choreographed differently for each team. It is similar to a pattern dance and skated to a certain rhythm, but gives teams more freedom in choreography. It does not need to cover the entire ice surface like pattern dances and full step sequences do. Partial step sequences must be done in a dance hold. The ISU uses partial step sequences to help develop new pattern dances.
(Thanks to @drag0ness for helping out with this reply!)