#patton negativity

[naminethewitch]

Rewatching SvS Redux right now and I'm still bothered by Patton's argument against talking to Lee and Mary Lee before the wedding. I feel like he's telling Thomas that they shouldn't have agency because it might hurt their feelings.

I don't know, it just feels iffy to me and I think it one of the reasons Patton started bothering me so much...

Honestly, the entire episode makes me not like him too much. I know the point is that he's wrong and too extreme but still...

[tscritical]

I know you were debating complaining about the actual sides rather than just Thomas before that twitter thing happened and idk if you decided whether you wanted to do it or not but if you did...

Any specific thought about the sides you want to let out?? I am a hater /lh so I love seeing others hate lol

honestly it’s been so long since ive rewatched the series that it’s hard to remember why i hate patton so much (i think it’s mostly projection at this point; i liken him to my dad even though they’re not really all that alike, for like. vent reasons? and it’s somewhat cathartic actually)

tho honestly i think his whole… point? in svs redux doesn’t help matters (i swear if empathy becomes an important talking point throughout the series im gonna McFuckin Lose It because thomas doesn’t know what the FUCK he’s talking about)

and virgils just a bitch that gets away with it too easily. i could elaborate but i think i have actually

and those two are really the only ones i have negative thoughts about. although. janus can be a real dick to roman (svs 1 and 2) but im still attached

[ego-tistical-prick]

Hey guys remember that single episode where Logan made thomas try living the way that he wanted, the logical way, but when it was making thomas unhappy he realised and apologised? And made an effort to change?

Yeah? Cool.

Now remember when Patton did that for 30 years?

[nachosforfree]

You ever think about how during season one Logan was genuinely happy a lot of times but as time went on that majorly slowed down and he got more serious and stopped smiling and the last time we see him get genuinely happy and excited was in the episode where he was paid attention to and allowed to like things (crofters) and then at the end when Patton came back and brought up Logan's pun to poke fun at him Logan got embarrassed and shut down again and now we only see glimpses of Logan's true self like when Thomas compliments him in DWIT and when he brought up that Thomas called him cool in ATHD? Like do you ever think about that because I so think about that sometimes

[thisaccisdead]

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wuh woh spagetti-o's

[quietrainfan]

Patton: Oh come on, Logan. Don't be a pouty profess-

Logan, grabbing his collar: Call me one more condescending pet name again. Go ahead, do it. Give me a reason to throw your cyan colored suburban ass into the river.

[sagesparrow394]

Just saw a post saying no one ever apologises to Patton, and... are we watching the same series?

Because I’m pretty sure Logan does. Quite a lot, actually. In Growing Up, if I’m remembering correctly, he sure did. He and Patton happily compromised in MvH. In POF, when he accidentally hit Patton with the textbox, he immediately apologised. And of course, we all remember the gift of the cat hoodie that Logan used to apologise and make it up to Patton in Moving On.

And, actually since Moving On, I think he’s actually been very nice to Patton (even if Patton isn’t always the nicest back. In fact, he’s been quite a bit of a dick to him, especially in POF). Even when Patton was at fault in DWIT, Logan was considerate as he talked through what Patton could do better. I find it harsh to call out all the sides for not apologising to Patton for things when Logan has nothing to apologise for (and I guess neither does Roman since Roman never really says bad stuff about Patton, not even during his breakdown at the end of POF. In fact, the black and white morality that Patton pushed for so long is what caused Roman to have this reaction to Janus’ acceptance, so...)

I feel, sometimes, some people in this fandom can paint canon Logan as a bit more of an asshole than he actually is. Just because he can be rather blunt and puts logic before emotions doesn’t mean he’s heartless. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: he seems to apologise the most out of the sides. And even though he doesn’t like being wrong, when he is and realises it, he apologises, and makes an effort to do better without needing to be told twice.

I mean, just look at LNTAO. He learns that ‘unconventional’ means of learning are just as useful and effective as conventional ones. A lesson he clearly holds on to, since he utilises the unconventional video game theme in POF.

Logan cares about his family and wants them to be happy. As of now, he’s probably the side on best terms with all of the others (well, he would be if they weren’t all mean to him for no reason). He’s not perfect of course, none of the sides are, but I don’t think not apologising is one of his flaws.

Patton does not deserve an apology from Logan. But Logan sure as hell deserves one from him.

[hopelessly-aro]

“oh come on logan no need to be a pouty professor” Patton I Am Going To Slap You