#patton hate

[transfemlogan]

never try 2 get me 2 read a patton angst fic ill roll my eyes & groan the whole time while reading it

[heartof-kings]

SORRY YOU DONT HAVE TO DO THIS BUT I REALLY LIKE YOUR TAKE ON REMUS SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE OPINIONS FOR THE MEME ON THE OTHER SIDES.....👀

JDHXPYDOEJDIXHSA FOAMING AT THE MOUTH THANK YOU SO MUCH I LOVE THE SIDES

LOGAN

hooooly shit the ESSAYS i have written to my friends abt logan and how much i love him and how hes treated SO SHITTY by the other sides and the fandom and deserves more and im SO EXCITED FOR WHERE HIS CHARACTER IS GOING he is me and i would take him on the best dates to museums and let him tell me everything he knew abt whatever is on display

JANUS

ALSO DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER OH MY GOD he tries so hard to help but bc his advice doesnt pass The Catholic Test the others wont let him help and im fkdgsoabfjsAAAAGAH CHONPING also his dynamic with Roman is OS GOOD and i want to see more of them interacting AND i need to see him interact eith logan anf remus more they are all besties, lovers even.

VIRGIL

virgil is another nuanced character a GOOD character, that has made a few too many mistakes for me personally to like right now but i think he is definitely going to change and improve in the future and i cant wait for that. also gets done dirty by the fandom. i occasionally brainrot abt his possible connection to janus and remus and also his relationship to logan bc theyre such a good duo, bounce very well off each other. same with roman actually but that ine is so popular in the fandom yknow thats already appreciated. i also think abt how HE has been don dirty by the other characters too tho, especially patton.

PATTON (THIS IS /NEG FEEL FREE TO SKIP)

IIIII FUCKING HATE PATTON. okay so. his actual in canon character has many flaws that make me actively dislike him but hes such a good and nuanced character qmd the fandom does not appreciate that. they always boild him down to the happy father. wjen hes SO MUCH MORE. i indulge in u!patton content myself just bc thats how i like to interpret him out of canon but in canon he has potential to realize his faults and grow and we see him start that with janus. excited to see where his character is going. he better apologize to all the others eventually tho 😤

[totsux]

some unpopular, as well as popular, sanders sides opinions

virgil

• kinda overrated

• 100% a top. you can’t change my mind

• not a soft uwu emo bean. like, no more of that please. it changes his personality so much.

• actually really tall (heightened anxiety)

• can be really awful sometimes. i know he’s your favorite, but you can’t just ignore his rudeness.

roman

• he is definitely a bottom

• he deserves way more love

• he is not ok. like, get this boy some help

• isn’t usually in the wrong, contrary to popular belief

• striving to be perfect

• should to make up with janus and talk about his moral conflict about the court case

logan

• deserves more love

• obviously isn’t good at reading emotions, resulting in others feelings being hurt

• mom.

patton

• is really manipulative sometimes

• shouldn’t be treated as though he’s never done bad

• yes he might be a good person, but we shouldn’t overlook his flaws

• responsible for most conflict in SvS

janus

• needs to talk and apologize to roman (and probably remus too)

• isn’t a bad guy, and was mostly in the right

• manipulated roman, which is wrong, but he had good intentions

• loves jazz. i don’t know why, he just does

remus

• he needs to work things out with roman

• listen to him. intrusive ≠ bad

• shouldn’t have knocked out roman

• talks to himself all the time

• does crazy things like eating deodorant to get more attention

• isn’t actually that different from roman (which isn’t a bad thing for either of them)

[quietrainfan]

Patton: Oh come on, Logan. Don't be a pouty profess-

Logan, grabbing his collar: Call me one more condescending pet name again. Go ahead, do it. Give me a reason to throw your cyan colored suburban ass into the river.

[shade-romeo]

It seems I'm in a mood tonight lads.

Roman sat on Logan's bed, watching him walk back and forth from his desk to the pinboard on the other side of the room, hanging up different papers and pictures.

The two sides had been dating for a good while now, but Logan had requested that they kept it secret until he was ready to tell the others. Roman, wanting Logan to be comfortable, agreed.

So now, the two were peacefully hanging out in Logan's room, keeping idle conversation as Logan worked.

"..Roman?" Said side perked up, seeing Logan standing in the middle of the room, a paper in hand as he looked at him. "Are you alright?"

"Uh, yeah. Sorry, just got lost in my thoughts." Roman smiled sheepishly, as Logan smiled a bit and shook his head fondly, going over to pin up the paper in his hand.

"...Hey Logan?"

"Yes?" Logan acknowledged as he stepped back to look over his pin board.

"..Why can't we sit closer during meals and stuff?" Logan sighed heavily as Roman scrambled to elaborate, "Cuz, well, I just wanted to be closer to you, cuz we hardly get any time to actually be romantic, and cuddle and stuff, so-"

"Roman." The prince went silent, as Logan turned to look at him. "I love you, and I do wish we could have more time together like this, but I do not want to risk Patton finding out about our relationship."

"..You mean Patton and Virgil."

"Hm? No, I don't care if Virgil finds out." Logan hummed. Roman tilted his head, confused.

"..Well, why is Patton finding out a bad thing?" Roman asked.

Logan sighed, moving over to sit down on the edge of the bed. "Because Patton has a tendency to.. tease. He likes to.. basically make fun of me, for having feelings. And if he found out we were dating, that would increase tenfold."

Roman blinked, taken aback, "Wh.. Patton would never do that! He's the nicest person ever!"

Logan shook his head, "Of course you would believe that."

Roman made a little offended noise, "And what does that mean?"

"Patton has trained you to believe he can do no harm." Logan elaborated.

"Trained?!"

"Yes Roman. Listen, I mean no harm when saying this, but, you are Patton's figurative 'Lapdog' " Logan explained, causing Roman to sit up and cross his arms.

"I am not his lap dog! I am a prince!"

Logan rolled his eyes, "And tell me, when was the last time you did anything without getting permission from Patton?"

Roman floundered for a few second. "W..Well I started dating you without permission!"

"Yes, but as soon as it was official you insisted on telling Patton about it, and wouldn't drop it until I forced you to stop and listen to me." Roman stood up off the bed, standing in a way that obviously portrayed how defensive he was getting.

"Yeah-! Well-! I.. I'm- ...I'm my own side! And I can make my own decisions!" He exclaimed, and started to stomp out of the room, "You're wrong, and I'll prove it to you!" He finished with a glare, before slamming the door shut.

Roman huffed, and started heading to the kitchen, thoughts running wild.

He wasn't a stupid lapdog! He was a valiant prince, and a brave knight! He could make his own decisions, and he could certainly stand up to anyone, including-

"Patton!" Roman yelped, turning around quick to see Patton standing in the doorway to the kitchen, hands on his hips and a stern look on his face.

"Kiddo, what are you doing?" He asked, eyeing Roman in a way that made him feel tiny and vulnerable.

"I was just going to make myself a snack-"

"Kiddo, you know it's almost dinner time. And you shouldn't be eating anything before dinner, it'll ruin your appetite." Patton reprimanded.

Roman found himself starting to apologize, before remembering the conversation with Logan.

"Well.. It'll be fine. Dinner is still a half hour away, and it's just half a sandwich, I'll still eat-"

"Roman." That shut him up in an instant, "Put the food back. You know the rules."

Roman did indeed put the food back, and left with an apology, followed by a cheery goodbye from Patton.

As Roman made his way back to his room, he replayed what had happened over and over.

He.. he wasn't a lapdog! He was just.. just.. taking Patton's advice! Yeah! Patton just didn't want him to not eat, and was looking out for him! Yep!

Once he had convinced himself of this, he sat down at his desk, and started to draw, trying to think about something else.

From then on, he was hyperanalyazing every interaction he had with Patton, and he always came up with new excuses as to why he gave in to Patton so easily. And he refused to speak with Logan again until he had enough proof to show him that he was not Patton's little lapdog.

And it happened that way for a while, at least until.. the wedding.

Roman rose up into his room, tears forming in his eyes immediately. He sank to the floor, and let out a sob, curling up into himself as he cried. Oh god- Logan was right- he was right- he really was just Patton's little toy! Just something to play with and maneuver around until he was no longer relevant.

And it seems like his warranty has expired.

Roman sniffed and wiped his face as best he could, biting back any noises that might slip out as he rose up in front of Logan's door, and knocked.

He was right. He was right, and Roman yelled at him for it. He needed to-

"Ah, so all of a sudden you want my input? How convenient." Logan's voice came from inside.

..oh god. Logan was upset too, holy shit how could he overlook that?! He was ignored most of the time, and then Patton fucking skipped him, followed immediately by Janus taking his place- of course he would be angry. Why would he want to see Roman after he contributed to ignoring him?!

There were footsteps coming towards the door, and Roman panicked, sinking out just before Logan could open the door.

And when he rose up, guess which puppeteer was standing in the middle of his room.

"Roman, kiddo! Oh my gosh, you look terrible!" Patton exclaimed, rushing forward to try and cup his face.

Roman squeaked and ducked out of the way, staring at Patton with wide, untrusting eyes.

"Kiddo..?"

"Don't call me that. Get out." Roman glared, trying to force down tears.

Patton frowned, giving Roman puppy eyes, "Ro.. cmon, forgive me? I just wanna help you."

Roman almost did. Almost.

He glared harshly, baring his teeth. "You don't wanna help me! You just want me to smile and force myself to be happy, so you don't feel guilty!"

"Now that isn't tru-"

"Yes it is! Every time you comfort me it's always, 'Oh kiddo, I hate it when you're like this' and 'Gosh, it just hurts so much to see you like this.' Not once have you ever actually tried to comfort me! You're just getting me to force my feelings down so that I look happy, just like a pretty little decorational peice should!"

Patton was stunned silent.

"So why don't you just go and hang out with your new bestest friend! And fuck off!" And Roman forcefully sunk him out.

And then he collapsed, once again devolving into sobs.

He didn't know how long he sat there, sobbing loudly, before his door opened and there was another person sitting down next to him.

"May I hold you?" Logan asked softly, and Roman immediately unfurled and practically jumped on Logan, burying his face in his chest and crying even harder.

Logan wrapped his arms around the smaller side, holding him close and resting his chin on his head.

Roman sobbed, and mumbled over and over, "I'm sorry- you were right- You're always right- I'm so stupid- you're right- I'm sorry-"

Logan gently shushed Roman, planting kisses on the top of his head. "It's okay, it's okay, shh."

It took a long while, but eventually Roman was calm, tiredly laying in Logan's arms.

"Are you alright darling?" Logan asked softly.

"No." Roman answered immediately. "..I'm sorry, for ignoring you during the video." Roman continued before Logan could intervene. "A..and you were right, I.. I really am just Patton's little play thing."

Logan shook his head, "No, no, shh. I appreciate the apology, but you are far from just play thing. I never said that was all you were, because that would be a major falsehood. You mean so much to me, and it is not your fault that Patton is a manipulator."

Roman was silent as tears started to come up again. And Logan sat there with him as they did so, holding him and being there for him, when his so called "Padre" hadn't.

They had each other, and didn't need anyone else.

But maybe.. maybe a friend wouldn't be so bad..

[hydra-collector]

i find it funny how whenever i write patton i always try to make him generally nice to logan so i dont let my patton hater shine through, but canon continues to deny that he is nice to logan in any sense

[nachosforfree]

Remus setting Patton on fire

[gay-ghosts]

Ok. People are pointing out that Roman in the Asides episode questioned Olaf sacrificing himself didn’t work. Or how he was against Janus’ self care. (Witch may I remind you, he WANTED to go to the callback and Patton made him change his mind.) But what I would like to say is:

That’s not Roman’s job

(That’s not Roman’s job)

Roman is Thomas’ hopes and dreams. He just wants what’s best for Thomas’ goals. He wanted to accept Janus in SvS. He thought, “We accepted Virgil, so why not him?” And honestly, I don’t blame him. Patton was so pushy for Virgil’s acceptance.

Patton was against Janus. Then after the fact he turned around and switched sides.

I really think Roman was confused and hurt because he wanted the callback, and Patton told him no. But now Janus is here and everything is different. Janus was right. Janus knew what was best.

Roman keeps getting ignored and shut down. I don’t blame him for reacting how he did when Janus reveals his name. Roman acting out is how the others pay attention to him. Character!Thomas relies on Patton so much that everyone else is drowned out. (He literally SKIPS what Logan is saying) I get that Patton wasn’t in a good place. But as the sides seem to do, almost no one is looking at Romans side of the story.