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I. SMELL. A. GOFUNDME.
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how the mars signs show interest
aries mars: very refreshing placement; they’re honest, open and direct. they let their potential lovers know exactly how they feel. things are straight-forward and there is no confusion. they know exactly who and what they want and will not hesitate to go after it; very ardent in their desires, might come on too strong and be looked at as desperate. they take the initiative, they’re excited by the pursuit, so rejections and evasions only serve to fuel the fire.
taurus mars: it might take them a while but once they decide they’re interested in someone/something, they won’t be easily discouraged; they’re persistent and single-minded. they’ll pursue their potential lover with dogged determination. might not be the most suavest or smoothest and might even be a bit crude, but their style is set in a way that their relationships are more enduring. very methodical and will build slowly. they don’t rush into things, and will take their time to get to know a prospective partner.
gemini mars: they’re tricky. as scattered as this energy is, if they actually focus their attention solely on their potential partner, then this is a prime indication of interest. also, they’ll be charming and eloquent and use their intellect and words, they’ll project their ideas forcefully on their love interest, debating and gabbing incessantly with their object of interest and will want to know more about them. can get a bit handsy.
cancer mars: will often not make a move unless sure of being accepted. they use their sensitivity to non-verbal signals to gauge how safe it is before risking a refusal, however despite their self-protectiveness, cancer is cardinal energy, and as such, they will initiate but only when they feel emotionally secure, either because the situation is non-threatening or because they have an inner security established within themselves. when they feel secure, they act passionately and powerfully.
leo mars: they can be a bit on the pushy side and make blatant overtures, but they definitely make their wants known and aren't much on playing games. they tend to show interest in status symbols, either having arm candy or someone powerful. they’ll be affectionate and physically demonstrative, they’ll be very grand and chivalrous. they will pull their potential interest in with their style and confidence. they’re very brash, dramatic, exciting, and passionate in asserting their interest.
virgo mars: very discriminating, they have very high standards and won’t waste their time or energy with those they aren’t interested in. their energies tend to be rather muffled and smoldering, in that they harbour a desire for a long time before allowing it to break out, and then it is very intense. they’re very discreet and don’t rush into things. plays their cards close to their chest; passions are strong but kept under tight rein; they control their emotions and are strategic in expressing interest in someone. they’re capable of expressing ardent interest, but first they have to read their potential object of desire. might have to be the one who’s pursued. can analyze people to death.
libra mars: they think too much before they act, and won’t pursue anyone in a direct, decisive manner. but once they do decide they want someone they'll exert gentle and continuous effort toward establishing a partnership. they’ll do all the “right” things like sending romantic notes and texts, thank-you letters, cards...anything to establish a connection. they’ll be romantic and charming, and they know what pleases and show a flattering interest in their partner's life and emotional well-being. will be very flirty and coy to the point of never actually getting down to business.
scorpio mars: on the surface, they’re cool and composed but they are often passionate, though potentially cruel, suitors. they let everyone know what they want but they don’t seem especially pushy, just persistent. if they truly desire something, then their pursuit of someone is uncompromising and undeviating. they go after someone with quiet determination and great thoroughness. once they’re interested in someone, they become deeply attached, sometimes obsessively so, to whatever or whomever they fancy.
sagittarius mars: another refreshing placement; they’re very optimistic, and are not that discriminating when it comes to who they’re interested in. they can be quite bold, blunt, and even crude about expressing their interest in someone. it’s actually hard to say what they want, except that they want who and what they believe in and they'll fight to get it. they express interest in a wide-open, anything-goes fashion. they’ll be warm and enthusiastic - if they want someone, they really show it. they’re generous-spirited and they expect to be desired, and so act in an open, confident way.
capricorn mars: they conceal their desires behind a carefully controlled and dignified exterior. they will take considerable care not to make inappropriate moves, since rejection would be a cause for them to “lose face”. they may be painstakingly slow in establishing contact, but once they have, they want the rewards for their efforts. they’re turned on by money and authority. with this said, they’ll be more apt to express interest in those who are financially secure or who enhances their status in some way.
aquarius mars: they’ll be very friendly. cool, but friendly. they’ll pursue others who are possibly quite unusual and quirky and they’ll do it in their own idiosyncratic way. they make their minds up as they go along when it comes to actively pursuing someone they’re interested in; sometimes they approach their target, sometimes they wait to be pursued, it all depends on what they want to do at the moment. will be the most apt to use social media and computer dating to appease their experimental spirit and express interest in someone.
pisces mars: if they’re actually intrepid enough to actively show their interest towards someone, then their overtures to possible romantic partners are sometimes so low-keyed that they get misinterpreted - or even missed altogether. they may, in fact, be more instinctive than conscious much of the time, making it hard for others to figure out what's happening. more closer to the truth, however, they‘re the shiest mars placement, and so others will have to go to them and woo them.
advice for the mars signs
This has been done ad nauseum I’m sure, but some anon requested this, sooo...
aries mars: use your brain for once and think before you speak or act. be more aware and compassionate of others’ feelings, quit being so impatient and childish all the time; also learn to respect others’ sexual needs and desires
taurus mars: your methodical ways are admirable, but this need to be secure and in charge before you act causes you to appear slow and weak at times. be more diplomatic and flexible for once in your life; don’t be so envious of others having more material possessions than you; also watch your weight
gemini mars: your scattered mind is all over the place, learn to chill out and focus; quit jumping to conclusions and quit going for the jugular with your words every time you feel attacked; also try not to spread yourself too thin
cancer mars: stop being so manipulative and passive aggressive and be offensive, not defensive; don’t let your emotions cloud your better judgement and don’t expect anything from others. stop lashing out when people don’t baby and coddle you the way you want. also learn how to communicate your desires to your partner clearly
leo mars: your need to express yourself at all costs often manifests in tyranny, which often makes you quite obnoxious; stop being so selfish and overbearing and have the maturity and decency to take a backseat every now and then. also, you’re obsessed with not being outdone; newsflash you’re not all that and there’s always someone better than you, so quit displaying your not-so-latent insecurity by trying to prove yourself all the time and try to acquire some grace
virgo mars: when others are explosive, you’re calm and collected. sometimes too calm. for once let your passions have room over thought. like gemini, your words cut like a knife but unlike gemini, you have methodical ways in addition to your blunt words and that can destroy weaker souls so be mindful of that. also you need to exercise tolerance for those who aren’t as hardworking and exacting as you
libra mars: you may be astrology’s famed “peacemaker” but quiet as its kept, you can be quite moody and often fluctuate between spinelessness and acrimony; learn to assert yourself clearly, firmly and consistently; also quit throwing stones and hiding your hands; are you for war or are you for peace?
scorpio mars: the extremities of your likes and dislikes make you seem quite unbalanced and at the mercy of your emotions and passions, acquire some detachment; also you make it your business to get even when wronged and your need for revenge is quite basic, let karma unfold and take the high road sometimes
sagittarius mars: your boisterousness can make for a good time but it can also make you a bit irritating; don’t be so tactless all the time; also quit exaggerating and blowing things out of proportion so much
capricorn mars: your veneer of cool annoyance often hides a very sensitive sally; quit being so low-key needy of assurance from your loved ones; if you’re as tough as you think you are, then be tough. also money and power ain’t everything; look to a more holistic and spiritual life
aquarius mars: you’re a bit slow to anger and you rarely lose control, but when you assert yourself, you do so with frightening detachment; be a bit more practical and stop trying to be the rebel without a cause all the time; also grow a heart, not everyone is as robotic as you
pisces mars: quit letting everyone run all over you. you can be as compassionate as you want but boundaries count for something, so grow a spine, step out of your dream world and acquire some self-awareness; also quit being so lazy and put your unparalleled imagination to action
pros and cons of the moon signs
aries moon
pros: pure, transparent, bold, authentic, privately tender, exciting, self-confident, fierce, ambitious, bright cons: impatient, impulsive, jumpy, restless, temperamental, aggressive, argumentative, childish
taurus moon
pros: easy-going, romantic, poetic, loves nature, stable, sensitive, responsible, deliberate, resolute, committed, sensual cons: slow, stubborn, boring, static, insecure, inflexible, too predictable, settles for less out of habit and for the sake of convention
gemini moon
pros: adaptable, quick, witty, fun, intelligent, amusing, great raconteurs, communicative, inquisitive, enthusiastic, spirited, observant, not boring cons: bossy, insensitive, perplexing, inconstant, too outspoken, scattered, irritable, moody, high-strung, immature, fickle
cancer moon
pros: imaginative, caring, creative, pure, has a refined gentility, maternal, artistic, in touch with their feelings, the most emotionally intelligent out of all the moon signs, has a gentle strength cons: irrational, moody, hypersensitive, emotional, easily taken advantage of, hold grudges, can be too delicate, often depressing, can’t forgive or forget
leo moon
pros: noble, proud, forgiving, open-hearted, romantic, courageous, fun, takes risks, generous, big hearts, unique sense of humour, cons: too dominant, insecure, attention-seeking, arrogant, can have a temper, need validation from others, sensitive to what others think of them
virgo moon
pros: honest, can be kind, exacting, brainy, practical, clever, meticulous, helpful, supportive, goal-oriented, attentive, motherly, discreet cons: cold, too picky, too cautious, naggy, complains a lot, hypercritical, shy, nervous, anxious, fussy, too controlled and worried about being less than perfect
libra moon
pros: charming, likeable, socially strong, aesthetes, artistic, refined, companionable, accommodating, adaptable, sensitive, intelligent cons: too other-oriented, needs to learn self-love, impressionable, indecisive, flaky, manipulative, unrealistic, can be spineless
scorpio moon
pros: strong-willed, deep, discreet, sexual, charismatic, not afraid of extreme emotions, reliable, loyal, tough, devoted, internalized volcanic energy cons: obsessive, dark, combative, touchy, sensitive, all-or-nothing, can be two-faced, unnecessarily cruel, plays tit-for-tat, hold grudges, immature, negative, secretive, complicated, too heavy, depressing
sagittarius moon
pros: independent, intelligent, wise, humorous, open-hearted, adaptable, liberating, honest, exciting, cheerful, great at looking at the big picture, optimistic, fun, really friendly, flexible cons: can be brutally blunt, argumentative, careless, restless, impatient, too reckless, can take relationships too lightly, can be inconsistent and unrealistic
capricorn moon
pros: sophisticated, worldly, intellectual, mature, grounded, tough, no-nonsense, pragmatic, leader material, realistic, inspiring, self-contained, ambitious, has the highest standards, regal, wise, hard-working, not afraid of taking the long way cons: cold, aloof, insensitive, harsh, pessimistic, overly serious, undemonstrative, opportunistic, status-seeking, tend to be depressed and melancholic
aquarius moon
pros: free thinkers, unique, broad-minded, artistic, original, intellectual, independent, exciting, activists, humanitarians, visionary, out-of the box thinkers, inspiring, liberating, very friendly, easy-going, individualists cons: lives in their head, cold, aloof, may be too opinionated, unpredictable (can be good and bad), unbalanced, aggressive, defiant; often a rebel without a cause
pisces moon
pros: imaginative, romantic, understanding, compassionate, empathetic, artistic, creative, helpful, attentive, forgiving, emotional (can be good and bad) cons: moody, precious, fragile, manipulative, hypersensitive, needy, submissive, unstable, liars, too unrealistic, expects others to be psychic and know what’s wrong with them, too reliant on fantasy, gives up too easily when things go wrong
breakdown of the moon signs here
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difference between the sun and moon signs
aries sun: selfish, childish, and combative peeps but you have to respect their drive and transparency aries moon: self-centered, childlike, pleasantly fiery, impetuous, exciting, can be sensitive but nobody’s bitch; the lunar warrior
preference: aries moon
taurus sun: stubborn fucks who insist that they’re right about insanely wrong things taurus moon: sensual fucks who are calm, earthy, easygoing, laid back and lovely
preference: taurus moon
gemini sun: gossipy bitches but they’re entertaining and oh so much fun gemini moon: gossipy bitches and they’re irritating snarky know-it-alls and not as much fun
preference: gemini sun
cancer sun: more nurturing to others cancer moon: nurturing to themselves
preference: neither
leo sun: amazingly confident and pleasantly proud; a little sensitive to how others view them but not in a way that dulls their shine leo moon: still confident, more irritatingly proud, a lot more sensitive on how others view them and it’s interesting how they come across
preference: leo sun
virgo sun: hypercritical hypocrites that need others to see them as perfect virgo moon: thin-skinned nervous wrecks that need to see themselves as perfect
preference: neither
libra sun: cool as hell; social and light, appealing, happy yet slightly fugazi folks libra moon: sensitive; nice enough people, yet something about their personality is wishy-washy tbh
preference: libra sun
scorpio sun: displays appealing dark mysteriousness with a side of nice scorpio moon: is inherently dark and mysterious with a side of annoying
preference: scorpio sun
sagittarius sun: a happy, wildly hilarious individual, true to themselves at all costs and a joy to be around more often than not sagittarius moon: a blunt and dynamic individual, always looking for the positives in life and a joy to be around more often than not
preference: both
capricorn sun: a secretly sensitive yet ambitious individual; very upwardly mobile folks but can be selfish as hell and loves to believe their own hype and have others kiss their ass capricorn moon: sooo hard on themselves (i would know); takes the long way. the lion, the throne, and the crown, quietly strong, there’s an understood sense of gravity; needs no one to kiss their ass and as such gets everyone to kiss their ass anyway
preference: both
aquarius sun: more inspiring and liberating to others aquarius moon: more concerned with being more unique than most and inspiring and liberating themselves
preference: aquarius sun
pisces sun: openly sensitive and compassionate yet fake pisces moon: secretly sensitive and compassionate yet fake
preference: neither
on persona charts, part 2
A persona chart is the horoscope of an individual planet. It is erected for the first time the transiting Sun forms a conjunction with the natal chart position of a particular planet. This point in time could be thought of as the time of birth for the planet in question. All the planets except the Sun have persona charts and they can shed light on the aspects of the personality the planets represent. This method was developed by the German astrologers Peter Orban and Ingrid Zinnel. It’s based on classical astrological concepts. Like many therapists and astrologers, Zinnel and Orban imagine a whole theatrical company of sub-personalities within each of us. Speaking astrologically, everyone has a Venus-personality, a Mars-personality, a Saturn-personality, etc.
Orban and Zinnel have discovered that the horoscope for the moment at which the Sun first traverses the position of Mars in the birth chart is an expression of the sub-personality corresponding to Mars. Like a solar horoscope, the chart for this moment can be interpreted as a “natal chart” for that person’s Mars-personality, the Mars persona chart. One can calculate a chart for each of the nine planets, from the Moon to Pluto. The persona chart for the Sun is the natal chart itself. There are bound to be astrologers in the future who will who will set up Chiron personas, personas for the Moon’s nodes, the ascendant and so on. The fascinating thing about persona charts is that the basic idea is so convincing – that in passing, the Sun awakens the sub-personalities.
Interpreting Persona Charts
Here is a very short guide to the interpretation of persona charts, according to Orban and Zinnel. The Moon Persona Chart - The feminine in us, our feeling worlds, the inner child, emotional security. This tells us a lot about the inner life of a person. The Mercury Persona Chart - Outward mobility, articulation, intelligence, communicating with the outer world, dealing with daily necessity. The Venus Persona Chart - Joy in the senses, Eros and sexual pleasure, sensual delight, the way we relate to other people, problems we might have to deal with in relationships. The Mars Persona Chart - The inner warrior, self-assertion, how one takes a stand, the kinds of battles one fights, with what means one fights them and to what purpose. The Jupiter Persona Chart - The meaning of life, the inner therapist, where we put the “religion” in our lives. The Saturn Persona Chart - The law, our mission in life, things fate wants to teach us and things we don’t like to learn. The Uranus Persona Chart - Where to let go, where to be free, and where we find the “fool” and “jester”. The Neptune Persona Chart - The search for truth, pushing past falsehood to what lies beyond. The Pluto Persona Chart - The battle with demons, with forces that want to keep us from life. Fixed images and ideologies.
the persona charts trilogy
part 1 • part 2 • part 3
on persona charts, final part
Another opinion I have about persona charts: it’s not easy to analyze persona charts for one’s own self, as the first requirement here is to blow ones own ego cover we all hold very tight to. First thing we must be aware of is, that we are not always the ‘same person’ in every given situation, toward every person, maybe that’s the best starting point to explain - we don’t always behave in the same way toward every person, and likewise otherwise, every person displays a different personality in regard which person they come in contact with, and not even the same personality every time. There jumps in that famous line: “I thought I knew you, but now I see I don’t know you at all”. Basically that person experienced the clashing of two or more personalities of someone close to him/her, a matter that wasn’t meant to meet his/her eyes. Actually, the triggers are correlated in regard to the whole creation at large, but to start understanding this technique, the easiest way to spot those shifts is to analyze the way we relate to actual people in our life. Yeah, we are basically talking about what is commonly taught as ‘double standards’, while in fact, we’re actually applying multiple standards on a daily basis. Succinctly put, we’re all fake.
K, let’s get on another example…brainstorming, people, there’s no other way. Dealing with Persona charts means exercising one’s own mental flexibility. Let’s use a pretty common social construction of the typical western successful male specimen, someone like Don Draper of the series Mad Men.
He’s an executive leader in some corporate company, thus very engaged there and on the 'first line of the battlefield’, well liked and respected for his achievement. He is VERY heard and seen there, there is where his aggressive part of personality truly shines. He has a wife and two kids at home, there he is caring but not even close or expressive, rather quiet and reserved in his habits, very closed up and wanting things to be superficially 'proper’ and concerned with appearances. He sees his family as his duty rather than as anything else. Then we have this kind of man going on his 'business trips’, in which he seduces and sleeps with many different women, and we can introduce another typical cliché of those in charge of many heavy responsibilities, that in one of these dalliances, he enjoys the services of some experienced dominatrix, losing his pressure and burdens in the practice of S&M. Another cliché we can add, is that he’s an borderline alcoholic, prone to explosive violent outbursts when touching the bottom of the bottle, from time to time. All while being a deceiver that stole someone else’s identity.
You see how the same person changes significantly, regarding different people and situations? Well, this is where his different personalities jump in, and each of us has those shifts, it depends only by which degree (though, I must add, that this is a fictional character, and as such is an exaggerated case, I just brought him up as an example of the power of persona charts).
In conclusion, when looking at persona charts, one should bear the following points in mind:
1) The most important sub-personality is the “Ruler of 1”. For example, anyone with an ascendant in Libra should take a good look at their Venus persona chart. The persona chart for the planet which rules the ascendant can give us a lot of insight. 2) The persona chart for the Moon tells us about the feminine energies of a person. Just as the natal chart is the Sun-persona chart or Yang-chart, so the Moon persona chart is the Yin-chart. In this sense it is the horoscope of the anima, the feminine counterpart. Tuning in to her means going in search of her story. 3) The ascendant of a persona chart leads us deeply into the unconscious. It shows where the unconscious strives toward the light. 4) The Sun in a persona chart is regarded as the ego of the sub-personality. Not as THE EGO!! Saturn too has an “ego”, a will-to-be. The persona-ego is always partly familiar, since the Sun occupies the zodiacal degree of the planet involved. However, there is no way in which we can tell which house it will be in. This tells us considerably more about how the sub-personality will behave. 5) The midheaven (MC) of the persona-chart shows the fate of the sub-personality. At the same time, it represents the quintessence of the path to be taken, from the (subconscious) ascendant to the “light of consciousness” at the midheaven. One cannot tell how far each person will go, since this seems to depend on the intensity of the individual effort.
That’s all I got.
the persona charts trilogy
part 1 • part 2 • part 3