hi same anon from yesterday
I paused the video to make a post about how while Mapicc was upset Zam was against Mawn and leaving (the archive says he also streamed that day but there isn't a link to it so this was based entirely on what he said to Zam) and wasn't at "castle arc 2: castle harder" levels yet like Atlas were worried about, and not even two minutes later Flame and Mapicc come over the hill and start fighting them 😭
Indirectly this whole arc is Derap's fault. Like, him taunting Flame about always doing what Mane tells him to, his longstanding beef with Mapicc + teaming with Zam (read: taking Zam's attention away from Mapicc), and being the one to propose making a new Spawn out of spite, and since Zam is an Arcane fan she wanted to call it Zaun which led to the misconception that Zaun was a "rival country" because of the names being nearly identical when spoken aloud. It all just comes together in this perfect storm
And during the fight Flame + Mape were saying that she didn't even give Mawn a try, but like you said in the tags of the last ask I sent, she did! She wasn't happy with it and couldn't force herself to build because of an arbitrary rule, and it was Flame following her, constantly telling her to make something and asking for easy-to-acquire materials that made her storm off. I doubt she would've stayed much longer if he hadn't, but I do wonder what would've happened if she did...
(as an aside, ppl in Zam's chat kept wondering how Minute would react to this, meanwhile in his stream the previous day he said Mawn was funny and interesting lmao)
Very interesting how during the fight Mapicc was hard focusing Derap, entirely avoided hitting Zam even when she was hitting him to try and get him to back off, and the dropped glow ink sacs (an item Zam is known for using a LOT) like a cat leaving a dead mouse... He's so lonely and jealous it's not even funny. These two are miscommunicating their way out of a burning building because everything he's done to keep her close has ended up with her pulling away and she can't find the words to resolve things.
And now Mapicc is lost because he didn't think of what to do AFTER taking control of Spawn. He got the peace he sought but now he doesn't know what to do with it. He was so prepared to have to fight to keep Mawn but everyone's accepted it. Mapicc hated being nothing but the muscle called for fights but without the fights there isn't much for him to do since he's not much of a builder himself. His alliance with Flame is very shaky and at risk of falling apart because he can't really beat Flame by himself and if he tried telling him to leave Zam alone he'd likely go back to working with Mane since Flame wants to put Zam thru the Torment Nexus.
Also Zam equipping a knockback sword again because she's done fighting, a loud statement that Mawn wasn't a threat to the server's continued function... This is twice now he's done something hoping Zam'll fight back, just look at him whether with love or with hate, and she's hunkered down and put down her swords because she doesn't want to hurt him more.
Another thing too is how Derap seems to love asking hypothetical questions and who Zam cares for more between him and Mape... idc about spoilers and I already know that it's near the end of the season when Atlas falls apart and does so spectacularly but like... can that hurry up... I feel like Derap is part of the "Zam needs to be fixed" camp and maybe I'm just too wary but I feel like those questions are a very subtle way of having her rely on him and be able to sway her opinion... idk tho, I'll have to keep going to find out for certain.
Hi Phantasm!! Nice to see you're back :D Sorry this took a day to get to, I wanted to sit down and properly answer to this ask. The Mawn vs Zaun arc is so unbelievably interesting to me, thank you for liveblogging your thoughts to me.
Everything lined up perfectly for this arc. I'm of the belief that Mawn vs Zaun and the Warden arc (you'll see when you get there) are the best and most interesting arcs of this season, by far. And all the points you bring up are perfectly showing why! It's an external conflict born from an internal one, from the storm of emotions Zam and Mapicc are going through. And yeah, Mapicc completely avoided touching Zam even once. They believe they know eachother perfectly but really they still are quick to assume how the other is feeling and completely get it wrong. Mapicc believing Zam wants to go against him, Zam thinking he just wants control…
and the dropped glow ink sacs (an item Zam is known for using a LOT) like a cat leaving a dead mouse…
Oh my god. I did not notice that at all. That's such a Mapicc thing to do. Wow. And he is! He's been lonely the whole season and he's so jealous of this one person taking all of Zam's attention, taking Zam herself away from him. "Miscommunicating their way out of a burning building" is hilarious. They're burning eachother and the whole server with them.
Yeah, it's so unfortunate how everyone was quick to agree with Mawn… an actual conflict would've been the interesting thing to do but Lifesteal has been very conflict avoidant for the most part. Which is incredibly sad.
This is twice now he's done something hoping Zam'll fight back, just look at him whether with love or with hate, and she's hunkered down and put down her swords because she doesn't want to hurt him more.
Just kill me while you're at it. This is beautifully said and I will be thinking about this so much. He just wants Zam to come back and look at him and fight him but she refuses to and oh I can't wait until you reach a certain vod in the future.
And well, Derap lacks confidence. He's certain that Zam will always choose Mapicc first, and refuses to listen to her when she says that she doesn't want to choose between them, and as you said, this is just going to come bite him later.
Thank you so much for being here, until next time!!