#ranting about endos

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“Don’t advertise spaces as being ‘safe’ if they’re not safe for endos”

First off, everyone’s definition of a “safe space” is different.

Secondly, a safe space for people with CDDs isn’t safe if it has endos in. A lot of endos promote behaviours that will harm people with CDDs, such as encouraging more alters to form or not wanting system accountability.

Finally, not all groups are wanted in every space.

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“Safe space for all systems”

No. That means it’s a safe space for ableism and not safe for people with CDDs.

Endogenic spaces are inherently not safe for those with CDDs. Endogenic spaces promote stuff that opposes healing. They encourage people to share information about alters that are vulnerable. No safe that’s “safe for all systems” is safe for CDDs.

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Can endos get their definition of themselves straight for once?

One moment, they are non-disordered system-like experiences who don’t have a CDD. And then next they’re non-traumagenic CDD systems.

Like? C’mon. Get your story straight or else no one is ever gonna listen.

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Just saw a pro-endo CDD system say that "their [endos'] knowledge is a gold mine for how to build and maintain a healthy, functioning system"...

In what sense is that even correct? Because from what I've seen, some of their "origins" are the opposite of building and maintaining a healthy, functioning system...

For example. Addgenic. Addgenic refers to a system that wants to become the largest system they can. How the hell is that "healthy". If we go by the TOSD (which is the current theory for how CDDs form, therefore can be applied to if we were to take endos' knowledge and use it), then becoming the largest system that is possible simply would not be healthy. It would involve causing yourself enough stress or trauma to be able to split over and over and over again, which means increasing dissociative barriers. Which is the opposite of healing.

And honestly, as I've said in the past, even if endogenic systems are valid as a phenomenon, they have different experiences to those of CDD systems, therefore their concepts and ideas are not able to be applied to us easily due to the fundamental differences in functioning and ways of being. Their ideologies are typically going to be harmful when/if applied to a CDD system.

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This wasn’t even an endo but I saw a diagnosed system outright admit to denying their trauma instead of processing it and learning to cope with it because “endos made it easier to accept my DID diagnosis” ?????

This is why I don’t like endos. I don’t even care if your experiences are legit or not, stop encouraging traumatized people to ignore their trauma. Stop discouraging healing and trauma therapy.

Literally! Denying and repressing trauma is not going to help anyone to heal. It's the processing of trauma, and then the reduction (or removal) of dissociative barriers that leads to healing within CDDs from what I've read. You can't just repress it, it will only lead to a longer and delayed healing process.

This is why, even if they do turn out to be a validated phenomenon, endos should not come into CDD spaces and should have their own spaces that are separate. If they do exist in the way they claim, then their experiences are inherently different to those of CDD systems, and therefore they should not be talking over CDD systems, especially when it comes to how to process trauma.

In short, fuck endos, they need to stay away from CDD systems and give us our own spaces where we can heal.

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Yeah! It's so weird that this is the singular set of disorders (CDDs) that gets treated as "oh yeah, you can have the symptoms that separates it from other dissociative disorder, without it affecting you negatively or having any of the other related symptoms". Like c'mon, alters/parts are basically just extreme dissociation. They only exist due to dissociative barriers that formed between the ego states when in childhood.

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Ok. When (pro) endos were stealing posts by copying + pasting them, I already wasn’t necessarily happy, but at least they weren’t interacting directly and fighting with us.

But now that there’s been a few of them literally reblogging posts directly, they’ve definitely crossed a line. I’ve seen them actively harassing anti endos, alongside wishing death on them.

Obviously there are some endos who already do that, but it’s the fact they are also trying to take our experiences in doing so. Experiences that typically only apply to people with a CDD.

Also what’s funny is that in reblogs, the base tags stay, so any endos who have anti endo tags won’t even be able to see the posts they’re reblogging. Which is also why I think they got pushed onto anti endo’s feeds too, because they had the anti endo etc. tags linked.

Anyhow, J out for now, take care guys, and remember the block button is your friend!

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Anyone who identifies with or supports "non-disordered plurality" has a fundamental misunderstanding of what alternate states of consciousness and dissociation are. It is just a hobby for them. They don't even wear the costume well. Their interpretation of having alters is so goddamn shallow. I just had to block these BAH tags because their community has resorted to "building headmates". 😐 And uh, making headmates of "antis". Not only can you NOT manifest alters, but how do you figure you can know enough about a stranger to steal their identity? You don't know us, you stupid fuckers. Like?

Oh, and signing off as the host of an actual system. I go between saying we have OSDD1B and DID because the latter is just more understood as a label than the first in my experience.

Literally, when you break it down, alters are basically extreme dissociation mixed with compartmentalisation. You cannot have alters without dissociation.

BAH blogs are bad in the endo sense, however I can see them as being useful for helping fragments in CDD systems gain some sense of identity if that's what's required for them to be able to heal or function better. I do think that the BAH blogs as a whole do make it so obvious that all endos think about when they think of "systems" is alters. A system is someone with a CDD, therefore dissociation is needed for someone to be a system.

Not to mention BAH blogs are literally encouraging people to make more alters, which is such a bad thing because if it is actually people making more alters, then that means more dissociative barriers, more amnesia, and therefore the opposite of healing. Like, I'm praying that these BAH blogs are just resulting in people pretending to have more alters instead of actually creating more, then at least they're not making the dissociation worse.

Also the bit about going between "OSDD" and "DID" as labels is honestly so understandable, outside of system spaces I rarely see people who know what OSDD is, and often still refer to DID as MPD, and most people still don't know about the CDD label. I mean even in system spaces, P-DID is also often forgotten about in my experiences (it is improving though from what I've seen). So yeah, it's understandable why you may say you "have DID" just for the sake of simplicity.