Hallo, pleasure to meet you, I tried to look for a rules post, but I couldn't find one so I'm just going with what I can here.
If you do know this character or what game she is from , cool! But it is up to you, if you want to do the request.
Anyways, I always wondered what it would be like if Karmor was turned into a rat thiren like Jane Doe from Zenless Zone Zero, or if he was like Jane Doe in a way, intellectually gifted, a master of disguise, and quite versatile, as well as a phenomenal fighter, since being a rat thiren comes with its perks.
Keep in mind that doing this request is all up to you and I won't be upset if you don't want to do it, I was just curious on what your take on this would be.
(Also, if you need more reference on how she fights, either look up her trailers- but be warned, its quite...animated...or just look up her gameplay)
Thank you!
Hola, so this was super interesting! I haven’t played ZZZ in a while. So it’s fine read about it. Mm, I took a while making something different.
To make simple, Karmor wasn’t founded by Hipswitch. Instead he ran and hid, learning about what the hell is happening. He still is mute? But needing credits to get basic things, he turn to thieving. So he become a little rat boy.
🐀 Karmor as a Rat Thiren (Jane Doe-Inspired)
Name Concept: Still Karmor, but with an alias like “Echo”, “Spindle”, or “Hollowtail” used in certain circles. I like Spindle, just cause he’s a little rat thing
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✨ Core Traits Boosted by Rat Thiren Physiology:
• Master of Disguise
Rat thirens are naturally adaptable—Karmor takes it to the next level.
He can slip into any crowd, alter his scent, heighten his reflexes, even mimic voices or brief body shapes if needed. But not just to spy—he vanishes from history like a rumor.
• Intellectual Prodigy
Jane Doe levels of “You didn’t even notice I hacked your tech and rewrote your neural imprint while smiling.”
Karmor could build weapons from scrap and pick apart an interdimensional lock with a screwdriver and a shoelace. He’s got that “I read your diary and your encryption in five minutes” kind of IQ.
• Combat Specialist
From claws to hand-to-hand to using literal junkyard debris as precision projectiles. He’s quick, twitchy, ghostlike.
Combine his rat-thiren agility with his canon time-glitching powers, and now you’ve got a fighter who moves like he’s desyncing from the universe. It’s horrifying. It’s hot.
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👁🗨 Aesthetic Updates:
Design:
• Subtle, angular rat ears; usually covered by a hood or modded helmet.
• Tail: sleek, dexterous, possibly mechanical or wrapped in old time-threading bandages.
• Wears layered clothing designed for movement and disguise—can shift into different silhouettes.
• He’s got a face people remember… wrong. No one can sketch him right.
• Signature Weapon:
Dual knives that shift form, or a segmented staff that twists like a broken second hand on a watch. Possibly integrates his tail in combat, like prehensile weapon moment.
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🧠 Behavior & Personality Vibes:
• Quiet genius. Doesn’t speak unless absolutely necessary—and when he does, it’s in a whisper that sounds like déjà vu.
• Emotionally intelligent but cagey—trusts few, but protects like a rabid feral cat if you’re one of his people.
• Makes a hundred backup plans and then abandons them to follow his gut.
• Will absolutely scam your squad out of their rations with a single card trick then leave you wondering if you ever had rations to begin with.
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🌀 Time-Bending Rat Shenanigans:
• Can pause time for brief bursts when cornered—his tail leaves an afterimage trail.
• Disappears from reality mid-sentence sometimes.
• Can literally “rewind” a mistake in battle but at a physical cost—his body glitches with clawmarks from timelines that don’t exist anymore.
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Bonus Goofy Detail:
• He eats like a GOBLIN in secret. Snacks? He hoards them in weird places. You’ll find a single protein bar inside a gun’s ammo slot, a granola wedge taped under a table, a glowing cube he insists is “edible if you don’t look at it.”
• Hipswitch (when they run into each other) once watched him eat an entire bag of chips in 4 seconds and hasn’t recovered.
We have a LOT of Pride Skavens I finally based! We have Trans Pride, Bi Pride, Aro Pride, Pan Pride, and Ace Pride rats all based in battlefield static grass!
“Oh, no. Your rat children are lil angels to me.” So far. “I’m taking about a little rat with spikes on its back! Y’know, like the fucker’s quills. Can’t be cuddly if they’re spike-y.”
