Mars in Cancer in the 8th house: A Quiet Storm (Reddit Analysis)
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Yet another astrology question on Reddit that I overshot my word count on.
In today's entry in the series, we're looking at the significance of Mars in Cancer, Mars in the 8th House, and Mars aspecting Pluto.
The Question:
What is the significance of my Mars in Cancer birth chart placement?
The Chart:
My Answer
Mars in Cancer
Mars in Cancer is "in fall." That means it operates in a very atypically Martian way -- it's not exactly playing to its stereotypical strengths. What does this mean? Pure Mars energy (think an Aries Mars) is quick-trigger, directly aggressive, and gets up in your face, and it doesn't necessarily need much emotional reasoning to do any of that. A Cancer Mars means a person is more passive-aggressive, protective of them and theirs, conflict-avoidant (until they explode and finally let the Mars fireworks out), and deeply loyal. Their rage boils deep inside until it reaches a point of no return. They also get triggered into their anger through emotion -- no quick-flash conflicts. Anything that sets them off is because it touched something deep, deep inside.
Another part of Mars being "in fall" is that you can feel constrained and limited by your mode of (passive) aggression - like you can't confront people. You have problems healthily expressing anger without bottling it up and blowing your top. You also struggle to decisively act and make fast decisions -- all signs of Mars energy being without its normal tools.
Cancer Mars people need emotional buy-in to act on...just about anything too. It has to resonate or it doesn't feel earned or true. About protection: typically Cancer Mars people protect via withdrawing, silence and providing care to people (or taking care of situations). That's the Cancerian "flavor" that is imparted on Mars, the planet of action.
Mars in 8th House
In the 8th house -- that means all that energy is located in areas of the life that are intense and psychologically *loaded.* Mars represents drive and action, so 8th house Mars is tangled up in deep emotions and trust issues, power dynamics, loyalty and, importantly, loss. You move like a deep, dark tide. 8th house is also the house of "other people's resources" -- so there might be some of that Cancer Mars behaviour and experience wrapped up in inheritance or death (but this is more on the predictive side of things).
Mars Trine Pluto (exactly)
A big thing that you didn't necessarily ask for but I wanted to mention -- you've got a zero-degree, *exact* trine with 12th house Pluto in Scorpio. So you have some crazy, soul-deep stamina and resilience. You transform yourself during (and via) emotional hardship, and you've likely got a great radar for emotional and social undercurrents, secrets, suppressed stuff. But you probably find it hard to pinpoint why, and sometimes disbelieve your own abilities to clock that kind of stuff (that's super 12th house -- hard to see the parts of yourself that live in that house.)
Some Additional Notes, For Tumblr:
Mars Rules 5th and 12th Houses
Mars also rules the 5th house (Aries) and 12th House (Scorpio, by traditional rulership). Because of this, your creative expression might be fueled by emotional intensity and the internal storm raging, not just the simple joy of creation. Your art and creativity serves to express your underworld. Romance and children can also serve as opportunities for you to protect things -- partners and loved ones.
Ruling the 12th house, Mars has a strong tendency toward the secret, the hidden, the subliminal -- you probably need or excel at shadow-work. In this chart, Mars rules the things that no-one sees...and combined with the 8th house, that's a whole storm of intense, personal secret actions and obsessions.
Mars Trine Mercury (loosely)
With Mars loosely trining Mercury in Scorpio, 12th house (the house it also rules) -- Mars just increases the sharp, probing nature of this Mercury placement. Your inner voice is sharp, clear and instinctually decisive, and it tracks things a lot of other people miss. Your mind orbits emotion, not impulse. However, you're the opposite of a public speaker -- your best communication and thinking is done behind the scenes. You observe things quietly and then make your decisions. Your thought processes are deeply subconscious, almost to the point of self-opacity.
Mars Square Midheaven / MC (moderately)
I mentioned that you're not a "public" kind of person -- and this is underlined by the loose square of your Mars to your Libra Midheaven (MC). You might have some frustrations and friction when it comes the visibility of your actions -- either you're seen as "too much" or entirely overlooked. You feel like what moves you internally doesn't match up with what other people see in you. You *hate* having your inner processes and emotions exposed, especially before you're ready.
Mars Opposite Neptune (loosely)
Your Mars is loosely opposite your Neptune (Capricorn, 2nd house). There's a deep but subtle well of spiritual tension here -- and you probably don't even notice it, because Neptune tends to obscure its own movements and aspects. Here, Mars wants to act and Neptune wants to dissolve. You tend to have problems knowing when to act or what to act on, and you have a deep well of self-doubt around the validity of your inner voice and instincts. (This is only worsened by your Mercury being stuck in the 12th house, where we often find occupants hidden from our self-perception).
Since Neptune is in the 2nd house, you might have confusion around self-worth vis a vis material value or the amount of effort you put in. You might feel like other people take advantage of your generosity, and then you may resent them -- because at the root, you don't know what you really want out of your own resources.
okay since a lot of ppl on reddit are confused, I guess I need to finally explain: 1.) I said last year that I wouldn't be watching Volume 4, and I kept to that. I only know what I do because of my tumblr dashboard. My comics pretty much don't acknowledge anything after the middle of the Vytal Tournament, but sometimes my concept art does (because so many things about how the fall of beacon happened make me particularly angry) 2.) In the middle of summer in 2016, I LITERALLY LOST ALL INTEREST AND DESIRE IN DRAWING. This was an alarming event for me- I've always struggled with mental health problems, but could always draw. When I suddenly didn't want to, or convince myself to draw, I sought help for an official diagnosis. Because you can't exactly just NOT draw when that's literally what your career and money comes from. I started going to therapy and getting prescriptions for my illnesses, which have been helping a bit. But it takes a lot of time for those things to be effective. (7 months for me, to be exact.) 3.) Much to everyone's surprise, and I know it's hard to believe: I have a life! I have a sister and grandmothers and offline friends that I talk to and spend time with- which is an important thing to do when you're not drawing regularly for like 7 months due to depression. 4.) Since so many people think that I'm hot headed/angry/crazy/etc. when it comes to my passion for RW*BY, I've been trying to get into other series so that y'all won't have to hear so much of my strong opinions anymore concerning the series. 5.) I've been working on 3D art much more while dealing with 2D art block, and trying to do R&D for projects that I've had planned for years now. 6.) I never stopped reblogging or sharing RW*BY content on my blog or on my twitter? Do you seriously only think I have fandom interactions from my art?
I've got a short series where I reply to Reddit questions that are too old for me to reasonably comment on, or my writeup got a little long, or I just feel like reposting my response to tumblr as a mini-essay.
Mars in Cancer in the 8th House: A Quiet Storm (also includes Mars aspects to Pluto, Mercury, MC, and Neptune)
Why Your Mail Keeps Disappearing: A Natal Chart-Based Look at Logistics and Karma
Why Do I Give off A Negative First Impression? Mars, Venus-Pluto Squares, and the Armor of Intensity
Reddit Chart Analysis: Joy, the Fifth House, and Fallen Jupiter
