i simply don't believe you on you having only ever consumed 1 energy drink in your entire life. you have too much of the vibe of a gamer girl with 13 redbulls or monster energies on her desk for that to be the case
bones i want you to know that the first liquid i drank that i actually liked Besides water and milk was alcohol when i turned 21. i only started liking tea when i was 23 & soda when i was 24, Earlier this year. why would a water drinker even drink energy drinks after being told it tastes like battery acid numerous times throughout her baby years
if i havent played forsaken or pillar chase 2 but im interested in trying one of them, which would u recommend as a first... ive played a little dbd and i kinda liked it but never got into it that deep
i was gonna joke answer with "is sonic in them??? if hes not, just wait for outcome memories' public alpha launching in JULY OR AUGUST. JULY OR AUGUST. JULY OR AUGUST. MARK YOUR CALENDARS-" but i do wanna give an honest answer, since outcome memories isnt rlly playable at all rn (nor is sonic.exe the disaster)
and because this is rlly hard for me to answer since. not only do i have a bias, i've only played like an hour for one of them and twelve hours for the other one. it rlly only comes down to taste, i feel, because both have some great qualities and ik ppl who'd only play one over the other
(PUTTING THIS HERE bc i realized how much i wrote here & i wanna help out yalls dashboards. lol)
do you like roblox??? and do you like ancient roblox lore??? (from the 2000s & 2010s). on that front, id suggest forsaken, because its kindof like dbd but focused on roblox lore instead (like hackers, myths/legends, & horror games). since you mentioned dbd, i'll try to grasp as much as ik about dbd's gameplay to relate it to forsakens gameplay, because i would say forsaken is A Lot more closer to dbd than like. pc2 (pillar chase 2).
its a game that has killers and survivors in it, you're repairing generators as a survivor, and ultimately the main gameplay is based on chasing. you cant really escape out of the level, you instead have to either outlive the killer by time, somehow Kill the killer (impossible in normal gameplay, the killers hp is Bigger than the survivors), or survive!! ofc, what i think makes forsaken stand out from dbd besides the theming would also have to be the meta
from what i can grasp at reading dbd's gameplay, you really only survive by receiving items in your environment or interacting with your environment. forsaken Doesnt rlly have that, they just scatter every item out on the open to easily pickup. however, survivors In forsaken do have classes!! sentinels can defend by attacking the killer straight up, supports can, well, support. either by building traps, or boosting survivors stats (health, speed, defense, etc). and then there's survivalists, which Again, from what i can grasp from dbd, are alot more closer to that games survivors than any of the other classes
with All That Said, i only have an hour of playtime in pillar chase 2. not only has alot changed since i last played it, but im not as overly familiar with pc2 as i am with forsaken. but from what i can remember, pc2 is definitely More Monster/Killer Focused than forsaken or dbd is. like, where they have actually characters even as a survivor, in pc2, the survivor is Just Your Roblox Avatar. you also dont get meta classes in this one, its alot more like dbd than forsaken is on that front
going further on that, instead of being themed on roblox lore, it has more similar theming to dbd. not just in graphical fidelity, but with the fact that its more based on famous horror icons from the internet. creepypastas, analog horror, you name it. anything made from the last 15-18 years is more than likely playable as a monster here. that's pc2's big appeal here, being able to play as a scary mario or a scary sonic or even the slenderman. or jeff the kills you. ofc, they have their own original monsters you could play as, but i rlly dont think theyd be as popular as scary mario or springtrap (he's not in here anymore But He Was At One Point)
what actually happened w/ the sonic.exe stuff i havent heard
tldr sega took down the roblox game, sonic.exe: the disaster, along with a ton of sonic.exe ugc off the marketplace earlier this month. so now every horror dev is like. trying to keep him or scrap him from their games (pcx getting a redesign in pc2, sonic.exe getting scrapped in forsaken, etc)
genuinely hate the way heaven and hell is set up in hazbin like. in all honesty. whats the point of using the dantes inferno layers of hell if you are only allowed to use the pride layer. for every sinner. why the fuck would that make sense. like. a serial killer would be in the like. idfk wrath or lust (bloodlust) layer. dantes inferno isnt even fucking canonical to the bible.
the angel designs are flat, their movements feel stilted to me, all the humans in heaven just have a color swapped monster design just like the sinners.
and no fucking shit people think alastar is fucking white, you only find out that he mixed race from somewhere else. i only found out through my friend that the guy is half black because he saw a video or something of her drawing alaster in his human form (this sounds aggressive, but i am not doing that towards you this is in total agreement wirh you)
also i think adam as an angel is stupid as shit from like the standpoint of someone who is interested in the bible in the way greek myth isnt "canonical"/is separate from greek gods
the designs look like theyre still a fucking pain to animate, and i do genuinely like a lot of the designs, i think angel dust is iconic and uh. the bat cat guy looks pretty cool, i think theyre more for like. comic books.
story feels flat and rushed, and very much like i'm watching a childrens show for adults, and i fucking hate adult shows that think putting sex, seears, blood and gore in their product is soooooo fucking mature and cool of them and its just boring and samey and it fucking sucks. if hazbin was nade by someone else i'm sufe the peoduct wouldve been handled so much better and treated the audience like adults
LITERALLY THIS THIS THIS!!!!
for the first part, of the lore. the lore gets so much more fucking confusing and lamer if you watch the spinoff helluva boss. they go into more detail & spend more time in the other layers for each episode, but theyre all so lame and predictable. the lust layer is pink and full of clubs & bars because. romance??? the greed layer is green and pretty much chicago, especially with the demon mobs (demon mobs Should sound more fun). the wrath ring is red/orange and like The Middle Western Desert that literally takes place during the Wild West from USAmerica. LIKE they made dantes inferno LAME!!! wheres the imagination??? was the best you could come up with for greed "chicago" and wrath "the wild west"???? come on
and the way heaven and hell are addressed is so much more confusing. like. the angels have a Moral code Not To Kill, even if theyre demons (in the episode the angel opposite of IMP are focused on, they lose their jobs when they indirectly kill a guy they weren't supposed to kill), which comes into direct conflict with what the angels Were ALREADY DOING IN HAZBIN???
itd be one thing if they were taking place apart from each other in the timeline, and we don't really know that ATM, but they're supposed to take place in the same universe, so they never really seem to make up their minds on what they wanna do with that???
AND LIKE the core concept of hazbin hotel is broken from the very worldbuilding the show is built on. no demon would ever wanna work on redeeming themselves by just going to a hotel, and even in cases when they do, its really just to sabotage each other, before they solve their problems like. my fucking little pony. i cant believe this was a show made for the same target group as bojack horseman or moral orel, it makes me sick
and this idea isnt broken either!!! it can work!!! the good place worked and improved on this idea In Strides and did it with much more maturity and respect for its audience than vivziepop could even do for two of her shows
like hazbin hotel & helluva boss could be improved upon, they just need Better Writers and a Stronger Vision for where the story could go. im not even being a hater Just Because (altho i am), i'm just really upset that this was the direction the show is seemingly going to with no stop. ive seen people that have looked up to vivziepop as inspiration and felt deeply betrayed when the story was shit, when the writing was horrible, its really disappointing to see. i think the only people left watching this are people who think what vivziepop is doing is good, even if she spends more than half her time online looking up her shows to try to fight back against any and all criticism
