Playing for the jazz audience of today — so-called — isn’t much fun, because the younger people in the audience are ignorant. They don’t know what to like unless a critic tells them its new, it’s old, it’s modern, it’s swing, it’s avante-garde, or whatever. They have no reference point. They have to look in books: ‘Oh, it says this guy’s great, OK.’ Jazz audiences once were the most knowledgeable audience in the world, because they participated in the music. They heard everything as it came out, danced to it, romanced to it, went to all the joints. You couldn’t fool them. They knew whether the tune was good, whether the band was good, whether the soloists were good. They knew everything.