#ruby vanguard

[demigoddessqueens]

Official Ludinus and Liliana art!!! 🔥

[cassafrasscr]

Lilliana: Predathos is just using Ludinus as a means to its own ends. 🙂

Me: *screaming* THEN HOW IS PREDATHOS ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE GODS YOU CLAIM ARE MANIPULATIVE TYRANTS?!?!

[somewhatsentientspellbook]

Part of me would love to see Bells Hells bring Relvin with them to the big battle with the Ruby Vanguard - if only to get a moment where he and Liliana reunite. Where they lock eyes for the first time in decades. A moment where they can see the grey in their hair, the lines on their faces, and the way they hold themselves like they haven't had anyone to lean on over the years.

Liliana would be forced to confront the past she thought she'd left behind. Of course there was a chance her Ruidusborn daughter would follow in her footsteps, but Relvin was just a man! He should have stayed far away, in Gelvaan, where she wouldn't have to think about him too hard.

Relvin would be forced to confront the woman he believed was his future. The woman who promised to stay with him, but disappeared because his whole self wasn't great enough to be her other half. He had spent decades wondering what had become of Liliana and her quest, and here she was.

She'd look at him and realise just what her single-minded goal robbed her of: a lifetime with the man she fell in love with. And he'd look at her and realise that he hadn't lied when he told Imogen her mother was dead... because the woman he knew died the day she left her family behind.

[uhtcearemorning]

Bells Hells: Why are all of our horrible enemies in this horrible enemy pit?

[aspiringwarriorlibrarian]

Liliana is really fucking rich talking about how the Ruby Vanguard are necessary cause "they will hunt us down" as though Ruidusborn haven't e on Exandria for all of recorded history before the Ruby Vanguard turned them into walking bombs.

"We'll be free" Are the Ruidusborn who are mind controlled into attacking their own friends and allies "free"? Will killing the gods "free" those Ruidusborn? You really think an empire built on mind control will let anyone live free once the only threat to their reign is gone? The bormodos are untouched by the gods under the veil of Predathos. Ask them how free they feel.

[transfem-octopus]

So I think it’s fairly obvious at this point that the Imperium are planning to invade a colonize Exandria and seek to awaken Predathos in furtherance of their planned colonization of Exandrian.

My Question is how much does Ludinus know? Does he know that his Imperial Allies are pursuing the destruction of Exandria’s Gods so as to weaken its native Empires and make them vulnerable to a military invasion? Is he nothing more than a quisling hoping to curry favor with the Imperium by weakening Exandria.

Or is he completely in the dark about his allies intensions towards his planet. Is he so blinded by his hatred of the gods and his own hubris that he cannot see the forest for the trees? Men often hear what they want and they disregard the rest.

Or does he know what the Imperium is planning but doesn’t care. I’ve said it before I think Ludinus plans not to free Predathos but to consume the God Eater and become greater than the Gods. If that is his plan perhaps he thinks that it is he who is using the Imperium and not vice versa.

Either way there is no way Ludinus plan is not going to blow up spectacularly in his face and Bells Hells are going to have to clean up the mess.

[dumpster-fire-sapphic-failgirl]

Bor’dor, inadvertently, displayed the biggest difference between the Bell’s Hells and the Ruby Vanguard

The Hells have been very deliberate. Kill only the cultists. turn those who can be turned. Orym even felt guilt for the ripples those controlled actions might cause. And yeah, they dropped an airship on the key, but it was Ludy’s shield that caused it to kill most of the vanguard in exchange for preserving his ultimate goal

When it came time to hurt the people that attacked the site, Bor’dor struck indiscriminately. The only person he downed was Prisim, who, in other circumstances, might have been swayed to join his side. (she attacked an avatar of the dawnfather with a fucking demon, for fucks sake)

Collateral damage didn’t matter as long he had a *chance* to hurt those that hurt him. No thought to consequences because there is nothing more important than destroying

so even though most of the Hells don’t give a fuck about the gods, they are still very different on a foundational level

and even if the gods die, it’ll be the Hells cleaning up the mess, because the Vanguard has no plan for after, because the after isn’t important

[saintdollyparton]

The Ruby Vanguard rail against religion, but they're cultist zealots in their own right. And they say everyone is at the gods' whims, but they literally have free will, yet are trying to make this decision for everyone on Exandria without even fully knowing the consequences of what might happen.