In the DMs between Ellis and CJ, CJ mentions Ellis doxed him. I haven't seen anyone talk about this so this is me bringing attention to it. Got these from the anon submission on the salt blog.
One of these screenshots shows Ellis saying, "I have a list of Santae users that are way too easy to find on Facebook."
No wonder why CJ chose to nuke her Santae account.
Edit: If you want to know if you were on the list, please DM me so I can tell you without risking your safety.
I should not have had the names listed publicly as that could have put those on the list in further danger. I am sorry I did that.
Even if you are not on the list, I have been told there are users Ellis was able to find that are not listed in the screenshot due to those people being found after August 26th 2025. Please make sure you are not findable on Facebook or any other personal accounts you do not want others to discover.
Everyone let’s clap for Jitterbug for being such a performative ally and making CJ the world’s biggest cuck! 👏
“I'm probably the biggest idiot in the history of Santae, and I regret being a part of it.”
“Everyone else? Keep fighting for what you believe in. I know many of you hate me, and it's fair. I deserved the hate. But I want as much the same thing as you do. I want to see staff get paid beyond the gofundme, […] CJ needs to stop with the project and have over total reigns to someone else.”
ALSO JB:
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edit: this submission was made prior to the ellis info coming to light, i just posted it late.
Same Anon who made the post about the Elon Musk gif not being the actual Nazi salutes. Mostly responding to JB.
Why does JB get to remain unblocked from the comments after all they have done?
The best I can do though for personal growth is not fucking do it again.
The best you can do for personal grow is not do it again, but you don’t have to be here for that.
I really don’t get why we all don’t want Ellis around, but barely anyone has said a word about how you are still lingering around especially after the other anon that agreed with some of the things I said only for you to comment “How can you say I haven't demonstrated a sincere effort? I absolutely have. I've done shitty things in the past, but I have tried making effort to make it up to people.”
You knew about the usernames Ellis compiled back in August she deemed were easy to find, but did not warn any of the users? You were, and still are, in the Santae server.
it’s not always responsible to make things public straight away. Speaking out about it too early can alert the person in question and give them time to delete evidence and change their behaviour in a way that make it harder to hold them accountable for their actions.
What sort of evidence did you need to compile against Ellis? As far as I know, you have yet to come out with anything even after you’ve stopped talking to Ellis before all this came out. And, on top of that, the only thing that came out about Ellis was all from August. So what else has Ellis done after August that you so badly needed to keep in touch with her for evidence? Will you be releasing all the evidence you’ve gathered soon?
You said you “I was doing it to protect the victims.” How did you protect the victims by staying quiet? You mentioned you warned four users, but who? Did you warn users who were a part of staff, the users who were not part of staff, or a mix of both?
Also. You deadnamed someone because you thought it was Fritz themselves then Fritz’s Husband. You showed that person’s deadname along with the tumblr account in the Santae Server and said you would not be taking it down. You kept misgendering that person even as people were correcting you.
You got butt-hurt over a user telling you to not use “lovely.” You complained about not wanting to walk on eggshells around people because someone expressed discomfort about the dictator gifs. There’s more you did, but I don’t need to repeat all of that. It’s all here in the salt blog if you search up your name.
Some of you complain about talking about JB again, but bring up Morgana’s past actions?
JB still has not been fully open about their involvement with Ellis who doxxed CJ and put together a list of usernames of people that were easily found. Nor has JB said they are working on a statement.
I get some of you are tired of hearing about JB, but why is it okay to not talk about what JB did when this whole Ellis thing came out last month and not once has JB shown all the evidence they compiled from talking to Ellis after August.
Btw, despite JB being removed from the discord, jitterbug is STILL in the discord - only ban evading by using a different discord account. Admins know, and know she shouldn't be in the server, yet someone higher up clearly doesn't want to remove her.
Pictures show the profile, mutual servers, verifying the user id's between the two accounts at the same (just to check) and what the user currently looks like in Sanford.
Why is this transphobe STILL allowed in this community?
Attempted CJ Wellness Check Long Post - Never Do This Again
Ellis, Kay and Animetiplicate in July 2025 discussed who could call a wellness check on CJ, if he continued to make certain comments. It was in this discussion that an additional party, Animetriplicate, was provided with CJ's doxx information including address.
Full transparency, I was barely paying attention to Santae goings-on at this time so I am not aware of what comments CJ made that prompted these talks. My opinion is that it doesn't matter and I stand by the following.
Firstly - CJ is an adult in his 30s with an adult partner of similar age who presumably resides in the same household. It is not your responsibility to manage his support system, mental health or decide when forcible action should be taken. CJ does not belong to a group that would fall under "mandatory reporting" for Americans. i.e. a child or vulnerable adult.
Secondly - If you participate in Santea or this blog the relationship between you (general you) and CJ is one of a hostile nature. On both sides. The threat of or actual attempt to call a wellness check is a commonly used tactic in parts of the internet to SWAT/harass/"troll" disliked or targeted individuals. A hostile party (you) calling a wellness check on the targeted party (CJ) will look like an intentional attempt to harass CJ. Who was already been harassed by Ellis.
Quote from Animetriplicate 07/05/25: "[...]and two, to get him to fucking stop that"
You must realize how this looks from an outside perspective. Let's pretend that a wellness check was called on CJ at some point. CJ who rightfully feels he is being cyberstalked and harassed, hires a lawyer, files a police report, and asks for this to be investigated.
During the investigation, messages like this come up in the server owned by Ellis (Santea), who just so happens to be the person CJ probably mentions to the police. Because oh yeah, there's this kid online that's been harassing me because she didn't like that I banned her on my website, and that I then refused to unban her because she doxxed my real life phone, address, birth name and pictures of me to a group of people online that spread rumors about me and don't like me for things I never did.
This is close to, if not exactly, how CJ would explain something like Santea/Santae to an unknowledgeable party. We already know how he twists stories and narratives to avoid anything being his fault. The difference here is that he is being legitimately harassed and can prove it, making those other lies easier for someone like police or a court to believe.
Now these can be used to argue that Animetriplicate or whoever made the call, didn't like something CJ was doing, and called in a wellness to further harass him. Was this the caller's actual intent? Maybe not, but CJ will likely perceive it like this and want to seek legal action against those harassing him.
Quote from Animetriplicate 07/21/25: "[...]I can feign concerned friend if need be" [in reference to how they would report this wellness check on CJ to the police.]
It could be argued that this shows a premeditated plan to lie to CJ's local police so that the request for a wellness check would appear more credible and therefore more likely to be enacted upon. This is pure deception and strengthens CJ's potential claims.
CJ has a legitimate case for online stalking and harassment.
There is no reason for you to ever be this involved in online "drama". I am appalled at how many adults 20-30yrs in age went along with an attention hungry teenager stalking a man online, and allowed it to get this far. If no one faces real life consequences for this mess, you'll be lucky bastards. Smarten up before this catches up to you.
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Ellis has crossed a line, and her behavior is genuinely inappropriate. She is presenting herself as some kind of reporter when she is really just a drama-seeking teenager who wants attention and is trying to involve herself in a situation that has nothing to do with her.
Tybox, Fritz, and Latte, among others were all staff. People can criticize how they handled things, but at least they were actually part of the staff situation and did not randomly decide to play main character.
Ellis was not involved until she began reaching out to people for “dirt” and contacting CJ directly to confront him over things he said to his staff. She went looking to instigate conflict and found it and is milking it. Why is she even asking CJ about what happened in Fritz's DMs? Why is that her place?
All that said, CJ is the person with actual authority here, the owner of the site Ellis is so eager to be an insider on, and he should not be sharing business or personal information with a random teenager.
It is like Epic Games messaging unrelated 18-year-olds their financial details and responding to personal questions on social media. It is strange, no matter how often Ellis tries to contact him. He should simply block her for her own good. She's being inappropriate and the grown adults around her are enabling it.
1. Namedropping is allowed. Overly hateful/vitriolic asks won't be posted, especially if it has nothing to do with the person's activity on Santae/the sancord. Consider using just an initial if your griping isn't too bad.
2. If I get several similar asks in a short period of time, I'll likely only post one or two of them. If you don't see yours get posted, it's probably because of this.
3. Contact me ASAP if you sent an ask and want it removed. The fastest way is via another ask or via tumblr dm (if you message me on Discord, I may not see it as quickly.)
4. For extended Discord/forums drama, please include direct examples/screenshots/message links. I try to give every ask context, so people can understand what's being talked about specifically even if they haven't witnessed it.
5. If your ask is transphobic, I'm deleting it and probably IP blocking you. Didn't think this needed to be said. Don't be a fucking weirdo.
6. Relating to "Don't be a weirdo", asks that are very incendiary/could be bait may not be posted.
7. "My username/initial/forum message/Discord message is in this post. Can you remove it?" While I probably won't entirely remove a post, I'm generally happy to edit it (and, if needed, repost it) to remove identifying information. Case-by-case basis. Send me a message.
8. "You posted this thing and it's harmful/incorrect." Because this blog is mainly submission-based, I don't share the opinions of everything I post. If it's seriously harmful please message me or leave an ask, I'm generally happy to delete posts that slipped past my radar and were bigoted/ableist/etc.
9. "My ask wasn't posted. Why?" It either: Broke one of the rules (see weirdo rules). I recieved several like it in a short span of time. I've decided we're taking a break on the topic. Contained a word I was unsure about allowing. Was a nothing-burger (ie. "Anyone else play Santae when it rains outside?") Lacked context and I wasn't sure what it was about. Or Tumblr ate it and it never reached me.
If you sent an ask and haven't seen it, feel free to message me.
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