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[lost-on-kamino]

When you feeling down, all you can do is cuddle someone :) Luckily Scully has Kix for that (I just have Djungelskog)

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[scriptlgbt]

what with historians claiming homosexuality "by modern definition" didn't exist in ancient times, would it be unreasonable to have a character be a "gold star" gay in a medieval high fantasy story?, I.e. only ever having fallen in love and been intimate with people the same sex as them?

What is homosexuality by modern definition?

homosexuality is "an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions" to people of the same sex. It "also refers to a person's sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors, and membership in a community of others who share those attractions." -- [Wikipedia]

Saying that homosexuality by modern definition didn’t exist is a statement about the second part. The identity. Culturally, in many places and times, people who love people of their own sex were not considered a different KIND of person, whether they were exclusive to one sex or not. But “ancient times” includes ancient Rome and Greece and Babylon and Israel (and many others), and for parts of their history, they did have a concept that maps onto the modern concept pretty closely (if not exactly).

So, yeah, there have been people since the beginning that only were attracted to members of their own sex. Sometimes they were and sometimes they weren’t labeled for it. And even when unlabeled, that didn’t automatically mean they didn’t get any crap for it.

But the most important part of your question is the word “fantasy.” If you have magic and elves, you can have gays and not worry about whether it’s historically realistic. 

And the “gold star” concept has some problems. I’d drop that idea. Just make a well-developed character who is gay. Don’t overthink it.

For a bit of history: the modern word “homosexual” was first used in an 1869 German pamphlet by the Austrian-born novelist Karl-Maria Kertbeny, and used to describe a disorder (the pamphlet was written opposing the Prussian sodomy laws). So the modern-modern concept has already changed quite a lot. Your fantasy kingdom could have any sort of law or culture around it, but if there are human beings, there will be homosexuals.

~~Mod Scix

[lost-on-kamino]

For Scully: 🍟: What does your OC admit to be their guilty pleasure? What actually is their guilty pleasure?

Epsy epsy.... Beloved Scully hours! 🍟: What does your OC admit to be their guilty pleasure? What actually is their guilty pleasure? Treating Kix to things around Coruscant and making sure he gets time off when he touches down... He works a lot in their mind... So They'd want to bring them along to like bookstores and toystores or arcades- That's their one guilty pleasure. Their actual one is CUDDLING Kix on the couch or bed because man's a heater

[lost-on-kamino]

scully and kix bingo 👁👁

Lmao I'll think of a name for them... Scix or Killy maybe???

They're a mess but they're my mess...

A Sad funny romantic mess, let's say if they got pushed enough they may have been something before Order 66, it was dang obvious djdndhd

[scriptlgbt]

FYI to all of your binary followers, non-binary characters are often non-human. It would be really great if we could get some more human non-binary characters before we get another elf/alien/demon....

I think we can get behind that. ^_^

~~Mod Scix

[scriptlgbt]

How can I portray a relationship between two men (my characters have some intimate scenes) without it seeming fetishised/sexualised? I see a lot of gay/pan/bi/etc. men who think female "slash" writers often show a homosexual relationship as oversexualised. I reread everything I write to avoid heteronormativity in my narrative but I was wondering about the fetishisation part? Thank you for all you do in the writing community!

Hi! 

We had a similar answer earlier this week, but I can talk more about it here as well. 

Fetishization: it means more than being sexy. It means being ONLY sexy. Or rather only there to turn on a particular audience.

A fetishized relationship would be one where the characters exist purely to turn on the reader. They’re not “real,” not well-rounded, they’re just an excuse to get on with the sexin’. They’re the poolboy losing his shorts. They’re “gosh, I don’t know how to pay for that pizza mister.” They’re finding some way to work it out. The simple answer to how to avoid fetishization: make your characters whole, complete people, and make an interesting and rich relationship.

Keep them real. They can be sexy, they can have erotic scenes, but if the characters, relationships and motivations are real and three-dimensional, don’t worry about whether they are fetishized.

~~Mod Scix

[scriptlgbt]

I'm aware that this is a highly subjective question (and also that you don't have a designated gay/lesbian expert, whoops) but I'm...writing a character who's homosexual, but starts the story in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex. I'm wondering what being in that relationship might...feel like? and what would clue them in that it was not the right one for them (but that wouldn't have done so/that they could have ignored earlier in their life). Again, anything helps. Thank you!

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Hi! 

Well, first, I want to make sure you’re aware of the spectrum. Kinsey was one of the first to describe it, so we often use his scale:

Or sometimes it’s shown as a numbered guide from 0-6. Someone can be gay, gay enough to identify as gay, and still have that 1% of interest in another sex.

That’s one reason our gay character might be in a straight-seeming relationship.

Another is simple denial or confusion: if you grow up never knowing being with your own sex is possible, you may just consider yourself a faulty heterosexual, and do your best to give it the ol’ college try. And sometimes, but not always, this sort of relationship can even be successfully sexual, if not sexually successful. Your character may really love the partner. Might secretly hate and resent their partner and the whole sham life they represent. They might sneak out and have sneaky sex in alleyways. 

And the most cynical and bitter option is simply: “I am gay. I will not get what I want in life as a gay person. So I have to grit my teeth and pretend. And to do my damnedest to seem as straight as possible, I will do what it takes to make other gay peoples’ lives a living hell.”

Leaving the relationship might be a whiskey-soaked revelation at 2am, a sweaty grope in the locker room, or a nice, quiet chat with the spouse and a pastor or marriage counselor. Or simply running away.

And obviously, age and personality will play an effect on how it goes. But a lot of gay people have a straight-seeming relationship or two before they settling into their eventual full-fledged gaiety. 

~~Mod Scix