#shameless speculation

[funblogoftricks]

So does the poison make the victims permadead…or is it part of a ritual that sends their souls to the city on Ruidis — into the red storm, as Imogen sees in her dreams — and the souls cannot be called back to Exandria, nor found in an afterlife plane, because everything on Ruidis is trapped behind a divine gate?

[whaticameherefor]

always wonder what the siblings thought during the mickeyless years, like Mickey shows back up in season nine, they haven’t seen him in 2.5 years and ian hasn’t mentioned him. they all know Mickey broke out, and lip knows ian almost ran away but the rest of them? Liam was a kid and you don’t really have memories before you’re 8/9, and Debbie and Carl had other things they were worried about, but Mickey lived with them, he was around for a long time and then he was gone and ian never mentioned him, its like Mickey never existed. then hes back and they just go with it

So, I think Debbie probably felt bad (this was before she shifted fully into Debbie 2.0) he was arrested for the Sammi thing but then right after she found out she was pregnant so I think it’s pretty understandable she moved on. I think Carl’s also just pretty agreeable and goes with the flow, doesn’t really get involved with his siblings’ drama but I think he and Mickey had a bit of a rapport. Maybe Carl thought he’d be fine in prison because he had this idea of Mickey in his head and he could survive anything sorta deal. If they did wonder what went down, it probably wasn’t for long because as you said, they all had their own shit to worry about, including Ian’s manic episode later on. I do think Lip kinda always knew that Ian and Mickey weren’t done, despite everything. Like, he didn’t know how or when but they’d end up together. I mean, he fully thought Ian would have run away to Mexico with him, so. From Fiona’s reaction, I think everyone’s response was positive when they heard Mickey was back.

I think there’s very little pushback from anyone when it comes to their siblings’ love life. They don’t really show anyone’s reaction to Ann and her family moving on or Tami moving in or Fiona moving out.

[shameless-notashamed]

did tami and lip really talk about having liam live with them? we didn’t see it. but we have seen lip playing pretty loose with his promises all season (*ahem, used coffee cup*). and he didn’t have the most encouraging look on his face at the end of that hug. don’t fuck this up, lip. liam deserves a family and a home, same as you had growing up.

[spitfirechick]

I HAVE A THEORY

So, over the past few days, the following images have been posted by Emma, Paris, and a producer:

This got me thinking that Debbie and Franny are in a car accident.

Then I started thinking about what would happen if Debbie dies/is incapacitated because of the car accident OR she’s charged with child endangerment because I seriously doubt Franny has a car seat.

From there, Franny becomes an orphan or one of the “strays around the neighborhood”...

AND IAN AND MICKEY ADOPT HER

Then the finale has a flash forward and Sophia Macy (who was at the table read for the finale) plays an older Franny being raised by Ian and Mickey

This could also explain why Paris’s mom and the Shameless social media accounts have been hyping up Uncle Mickey even though we have only gotten crumbs so far...

[dreamylyfe-x]

I'm falling into a pattern of doing a meta a day, so maybe that will just be a thing I do from now until the finale.

Today I'm thinking about Ian and how I've seen so many people comment on how Ian is shown to be stepping up as a husband and Mickey isn't. And I've been thinking about why this doesn't bother me.

I think the most glaring reason is... I think Ian had to. Like, as an audience, to leave us in a hopeful place with them, we need to see how Ian takes care of Mickey. Because, for a really long time, it went the other way.

I have this thing--as a person who loves them equally and therefore has been pressed into defending Ian on more than one occasion--about the fact that Ian is narratively disadvantaged because he... stayed on the show. When Ian is gone for half a season, the entire creative team is very aware that he is coming back. So they could really let Mickey miss Ian. In fact, it was important that they do, because Mickey did more to keep Ian alive in the minds of viewers than anyone else while we awaited his return. Two seasons later, when Mickey leaves, Ian doesn't return the favour. Because the creative team is working under the assumption that Mickey is never coming back. And while I wish they had given Ian moments where we'd seen him missing Mickey, instead of just telling us he did, they weren't trying to keep the character alive in our hearts this time. They were trying to move away from him.

So now, when we get to the start of season 11, we have this narrative imbalance where Mickey spent a whole season taking care of Ian, got put in jail for attacking someone who had tried to taken Ian away from him, carved Ian's name in his chest, showed up to say things like "You're under my skin, man. The fuck can I do?" And then, after Ian leaves him at the Mexican border, saying "This isn't who I am anymore" STILL comes back and gives up his freedom so that he can live in a tiny room and share a bunk bed with Ian.

Like... Ian didn't ASK for any of that. But he got it. And then tried to address a little bit of the inequity--the unspoken show me you want me, man of it all with the proposal story. But that's still a deep well of devotion.

This is pure speculation, but I think Shameless plans to ultimately leave us hopeful about (most of) the Gallaghers. I think Wells likes some sentiment and he wants us to leave these characters thinking they will basically be ok. And with Mickey and Ian, that means leaving us thinking "This is going to work. They're figuring it out. They're gonna be ok."

And to do that, I think they need to address some of that inequity I talked about yesterday. I think they needed to show us the initial clash (because no, these characters didn't talk about what being married was going to mean) and they needed to show us what it looked like while they figured that out. And Mickey's done the work. We all recognized it when he's taking the cereal out of Ian's hands and forcing him to get up and DO something. You can see right there, the Mickey we watched in season five, supporting Ian in the way he knows Ian will respond to. With Ian, I think we needed to see a little more. Because Mickey has changed and grown over the years, and I think there's more room to work out what is going to be hard for him to roll with and what he needs from Ian when things in his life go wrong. And some stuff has gone really wrong with him this season. Ian has been far from perfect, but it's been nice to see him figuring things out and responding to what Mickey needs, even if he doesn't see the gaps as effortlessly as Mickey seems to see them with Ian.

Mickey's earned some grace, I think, is what I'm saying. And Ian definitely deserves the chance to do some of the caretaking.

[gallavictorious]

You don’t understand, the way I want that to be them happening upon Yev’s crib while helping Kev and V pack up their place and finally getting to address that painful part of their past, it is killing me.

[abundanceofnots]

look, dumb (and yet utterly hilarious) jokes about dead abusive dads aside, at least it looks like ian’s making coffee for the both of them

[tobyspanda]

Pretty sure that hug scene won't be about Yev but about Mick saying he’s afraid he wouldn’t be a good dad because of Terry, and Ian convincing him otherwise? 

I really doubt they’d tackle the Yev thing in the very last episode, but it would be a good parallel of Mickey with Ian’s Monica fears, a good way to really close off  the Terry chapter in Mickey and Ian’s lives, and set up the starting of a new one?