#shihaheadcanon

[shihalyfie]

This might be something more of my personal interpretation, but sometimes i do wonder if anyone who wasn't directly involved with the Kaiser vs Chosen territory war game is aware of Ken being the former Digimon Kaiser, or not.

I mean, many people in the past had this assumption that Ken did not liked to talk about the Kaiser and to think the group (+ older six) would try to avoid the subject to not make Ken feel uncomfortable (i believe it's because of Miyako's line in ep 31, in which she accidentally started babbling about the Evil Ring they found and then apologizes because she "did make him remember of something he didn't want to" or something?)

But then you have MenAS drama CD, where Ken invokes that persona for a few moments in the track 4, and now the 02TB theater bonus audio drama #3, in which the Kaiser is namedropped -- showing that this is not the case and even Ken himself will simply mention it in the ways of "yeah i did bad things in the past and i admit it, but now i'm doing the right things" instead.

Well, my opinion is that not everyone is aware of it. Some people don't know. And some people could've been pretty much like how Iori was and there could be people who would just use it to blackmail Ken as well if they knew it. So i believe the group and Ken himself wouldn't like to let it be public knowledge. And for the digimon, i don't even know if the entire Digital World is aware as well, possibly because the Kaiser reveal in ep 8 and then 21 happened in isolated places, and the brainwash factor of the rings/spirals makes the digimon not remember those stuff? I dunno...

Anyway, what is your thoughts about it? Is the real identity of the Kaiser public knowledge or nah?

Personally, I don't think it ever became public knowledge. The Digital World residents would have only known him as the Digimon Kaiser, and although I'm sure a lot of Digimon could probably recognize him by face or voice or other means, I don't think the name Ichijouji Ken nor his civilian identity would mean anything to them in the first place (because it's only useful in a real-world setting). And on the flip side, the real world residents didn't know anything about the Digimon Kaiser at all, and by the time they would know, it would be long after everything had passed.

I imagine the kids would keep it a secret, if only because nothing good would come out of it being public knowledge. It would just attract unwanted hostility, open old wounds, and give people more reasons to be angry and upset at his presence, which would be a huge nail in his ability to actually help the communities he'd wronged. If some circumstance made it so that his identity would have to be revealed in order to prevent something worse happening, I'm sure Ken would have no problem taking responsibility, but otherwise, I think Daisuke (who's much more pragmatic) would stop him because it wouldn't actually help anything.

[shihalyfie]

While we're on the topic of Yamato and motorbikes, let's take a look at Yamato's scooter in Part 2 of tri.!

From the few shots we get of it, visually speaking, Yamato's scooter is a dead ringer for the Vespa P150X. Using this model would be very advantageous from a pop culture perspective: it became famous in Japan because of its appearance in the TV series Tantei Monogatari, so it would immediately associate Yamato with something cool, classic, and stylish to anyone who recognized it.

But unfortunately, once we start applying real-life logic, we start hitting a major snag: the P150X would have been way outside accessibility range for a high school student, since its combustion of 150cc would classify it as a standard two-wheel motor vehicle under Japanese law, and while Yamato technically was old enough to get a license for that, it would be inadvisable for him (or anyone who's just starting to get into bike riding) to jump straight into one rather than easing his way up from the lower-requirement licenses.

If we stick purely to real-life models, Yamato would have most likely had a PX80E or one of the PX125 models, both of which have the same frame (visual appearance) as the P150X but would fall under the much lower-hurdle classification of a small two-wheel motor vehicle under Japanese law. But if you personally ask me, I have a hard time imagining that Yamato would have any more than a standard moped license at this age; on top of the testing and schooling requirements being much higher for a motorcycle than it is for a moped, the license fees are also significantly higher, and the majority of Japanese high schools won't even let you drive a motorcycle to school. Meanwhile, a moped license is very convenient to get (it doesn't even have a practical exam!) and is also generally the recommended way to go for people who are just getting into bike riding, let alone the fact that most high schools do allow mopeds, so from a pragmatic perspective, it would be by far the best choice for someone in Yamato's position to go with.

So personally, my headcanon is that tri.'s Yamato has a theoretical 50cc variant of the PX frame that didn't exist in real life but does in tri.'s universe, kind of like how Koushirou had a PiBook before the iBook actually existed in real life (Kakudou was using it as a statement that he wanted Apple to make a MacBook for kids). Of course, there's room for creative leeway, but it's personally the most feasible option I can imagine for him based on the P150X's popularity and his own practical needs.

[shihalyfie]

One of my AUs is one where Hiroki Hida’s would-be killer was apprehended much sooner, so Hiroki doesn’t die in 1999. Since Oikawa isn’t grieving Hiroki when VamDemon is defeated, VamDemon finds a different emotionally vulnerable person to possess and manipulate - my OC Ogawa, a schoolteacher who suddenly lost her husband in the summer of 1999.

My question is - do you think if VamDemon had a different host, would it have resulted in a different Archnemon and Mummymon (or different species entirely), or do you think those two were all VamDemon? Or were they all Oikawa and a different host wouldn’t have created any artificial Digimon at all?

I think the idea of making artificial Digimon was largely, and by that I mean 90% or so, because it was Oikawa. If a different victim had been a similar Digimon enthusiast, perhaps it would have gone that way as well, but even then I don't think any other person would have created Archnemon and Mummymon specifically. Even putting aside the fact that they were made partially from Oikawa's own genes and are implied to have been a part of his work in genetics...call it a hunch, I can't say exactly why, but those two feel like they do have a certain quintessential core that stems from Oikawa, even if it's not in the same way as a more traditional Digimon partner. Like how you can tell who drew a certain art piece from their style, that sort of vibe.

And on that note, I think the concept of "creation", twisted as it is in Oikawa's case, is not something Vamdemon would have valued. Even if he was a terrible parent (so to speak), I never got the impression that Oikawa was anything but genuinely proud of Archnemon and Mummymon as his creations and work, so it was something positive (the birth of something new) that simply happened to be twisted in Vamdemon's favor. I also think Archnemon and Mummymon, or at least something much like them, would have still been created even if Oikawa had never been possessed at all; it's just that it would be done with the proper gravitas creating life would have rather than yanking two full-grown adults with childlike minds out of the vat and immediately putting them to work.

But Vamdemon is the type to value destruction and distortion more than creation, so him using Archnemon and Mummymon was probably more because Oikawa already had the materials and study research stuff on hand that could make it easier for him. Otherwise, I think he prefers things like manipulation, blackmail, and all, and if he did create something he'd probably prefer to make it like "a mindless shadow that obeys his every order" than something that can actually be said to have a consciousness on its own; that kind of thing would be a nuisance.

[shihalyfie]

I’ve been thinking about a thing – based on private roleplaying stuff – what would’ve happened with Ken if he had been friends with the five 02 kids before the 02 TV series' events?

Like, would their influence have prevented him from becoming the Digimon Kaiser? Or wouldn’t have altered anything in the plot and he would still go into the Kaiser route? 🤔

I think Ken might have been prevented from being the Kaiser, but someone else would have taken the role (Ken was picked because his situation made him convenient for Oikawa and co., not because there was anything particularly unique about him). But for Ken himself, I think they might have been a much better support group for getting through his brother's death, et cetera.

[shihalyfie]

What crossover teamup between two characters from different series would be the most disastrous for the sheer "Oh my god, they will cause SO MUCH CHAOS [delighted]" factor?

Daisuke and Kiyoshirou. No, hear me out.

Neither of them would be that bad on their own. Daisuke is a bit chaotic, but he's fundamentally a well-behaved kid. Kiyoshirou certainly isn't the worst of the loose cannons in this franchise. However, putting them together would create a horrendous chemical reaction:

Kiyoshirou has the Accomplished Senior™ aura that Daisuke is extremely weak to and is likely to follow without question. It's already bad enough that he adores Taichi so much that he's probably willing to go along with and even enable his worst decisions, but Kiyoshirou comes off as someone who looks (on the surface) like he's intelligent, socially accomplished, and reliable, and Daisuke would just instantly defer to him and go along with anything he suggests.

Obviously, Kiyoshirou is not actually a good role model, and the fact he now has a "junior" who validates everything he says would put him on a power trip.

Jellymon would absolutely exploit this situation to maximize the chaos, with neither Daisuke nor Kiyoshirou any wiser about what she's doing with them.

V-mon wouldn't entirely be aware of what's going on either, but he'd definitely make it even more needlessly chaotic.

It's a beautiful disaster waiting to happen.

[shihalyfie]

So... If they (02 staff) had kept the Kaiser persona as a secret for a little longer and the kids had befriended Ken before the reveal, would Ken start recovering his heart/mind or would he just deceive everyone like a cold hearted villain?

I think he would have tried to prevent the others from befriending him (he looked down on them as "insects", after all), but would have also been struggling with the feeling that seeing their friendship is a bit enviable. To be honest, I think he would have had too much pride to not spill the beans at some point; he was clearly enjoying the idea of revealing his identity to Daisuke and upsetting him that way, so keeping the secret for pragmatic reasons didn't seem to be a huge priority for him.

[shihalyfie]

Pardon, i'll be buggin ya for a little thing. I mean, i like the cliche trope of goodies going baddies and vice-versa a lot so...

What do you think Wallace would be if he was a bad guy in a 02 movie/material? :3c (i did this thingy twice... yeah)

I don't think Wallace would be a very effective antagonist (I'll say "antagonist" instead of "villain"), because even Menoa, who actually had decisive planning skills and book smarts, ended up leaving too much of a breadcrumb trail to not have multiple entities catch onto her. Wallace is even less decisive and has a modus operandi of just Doing Whatever, so anything he does would be terribly sloppy and unfocused, and that's already assuming you haven't distracted him with someone to try flirting with. (I don't think he's so much of a skirt-chaser that he'd drop all of his plans on the spot for it, but he will feel inclined to at least make time for it.)

[shihalyfie]

I like to assign partners to minor characters in Adventure, but there are a lot of minor characters in Adventure and only so many canon Adult-level species. Do you think it’d be weird to have two of Yamato’s bandmates with Wizarmon and Leomon as their partners’ Adult forms (but a different Wizarmon and Leomon than the ones seen in the canon series)?

Nah, I don't think so. I think the general lack of overlapping partners among the core Digimon casts is more of a case of the same reason you don't have major characters with the same name in a work of fiction if there isn't a plot reason for it; in real life, a lot of people have the same name, but doing that in fiction would risk adding confusion for the audience for no reason. I see Digimon partners as being like that; a lot of people will have the same name, or different spellings of the same name, or the same given name but a different middle name, and likewise a lot of people will have the same Digimon partner species, the same species but with different default evolution branches, et cetera.