the nipple grab moment (great gifs by @waywardmillennial!) has been shaking around in my head like a coin in a piggy bank and i have some thoughts
okay so what was that all about? well… nothing is without cause! Here's what I saw.
Shane has been annoying Ryan for a good portion of the episode. First Shane teases Ryan about his chair making a farting noise.
Ryan's response:
he's already kind of keyed up!
Then when Ryan is doing the plug/outro for the channel he accidentally interrupts Shane a couple times.
Shane's response:
Ryan is vexed by this …
He is searching for a verbal comeback but can't think of anything. this rage… this frustration… how can he proclaim it?
In times like these we fall back on our nonverbal communication skills:
Shane is a good sport! and Ryan is very pleased with himself.
Something i think is funny about their relationship is that Shane is a better verbal annoyer than Ryan, and Ryan doesn't try to hide it or play it off when Shane is really annoying him.
and, there's something about that, isnt there?
Something about that feeling. when someone is very well-practiced at bothering you, specifically you. it's very irritating, and yet, that particular flavor of irritating is close to… affectionate. do you know what i mean? that someone knows you very well, and is interested in getting a rise out of you, and is interested in getting your attention. Deep down, I think there is something flattering about the way that Shane likes to annoy Ryan.
In turn, there's something satisfying about knowing that you've really gotten someone, you've gotten to the heart of what winds them up, so much so that they cannot hide it from you. that they want you to know: you got me… and now i'm going to try to get you.
Shane wants to hold Ryan's hand so bad.... both in that video and in the gf sneak peek at the end when the cameraman is like "we can still see you" "no you can't" it's because he wanted to hold his hand I think.
Anon, you have a really good eye. I never would have seen that!
Overanalyze another clip while wearing shyan goggles? Nay, I shan't. perish the thought! ... unless? you would like to check under the readmore?
So here's a gif of this moment with added brightness:
It DOES look like Shane is going to hold Ryan's hand. And its funny you mentioned this clip, Anon, because Shane does that same thing from the GF tour video.
He kind of pulls back after he touches Ryan's hand. Like maybe he was reaching to slide his fingers against Ryan's palm. but he got his sleeve and back of his hand instead, because Ryan wasn't reaching to meet him. Kind of like Ryan was telling him, We're on camera (again)! Can't be doin that!
Since we're seeing these two examples from just recently, it makes me wonder (just for fun) if they've started casually holding hands more! It's probably a soothing touch for them both. And i have to admit. I do love the idea of Shane pressing kisses to Ryan's knuckles, fingers, and palm with his soft, soft lips. hehe
I continue to adore their affectionate friendship and I can't wait to see what the rest of GF S3 will bring!
why do you think they are like this? Why are they descibing things that sound more sexual than they really are?
Hi Anon!
Hmm…
On the surface, it's a simple question. But depending on how much reading between the lines you want to do, you could dive pretty deep. And I hope you packed your scuba suit...
The easy answer is, they make dirty jokes because it's funny - but we already knew that! I think the meat of this question really is asking about the extent of their relationship. Are they flirting/dirty joking because it's funny, nothing more? Or is it because they're making out sloppy style the second the camera shuts off?
I think the most straight (ha) forward answer is, it's 80% just their type of humor and 20% they like the buzz it generates when they imply things. There is nothing wrong with this answer. But, it feels like it's missing some nuance.
It's natural to wonder if the dirty joking is the tip of the iceberg, and if they're romantically/sexually involved on their own time. And honestly, hey, they could be! Certainly we don't know for sure. It creates this pocket of mystery, and I think that's a fun space to play around in. You could assume they are together and keeping it on the DL, referencing it through their dirty jokes.
I don't really believe that's happening. What I DO think is that their affection goes deeper than regular friendship, and that they share more physical affection than the average best friends. I think they hold hands, I think they cuddle, and I think they've kissed.
But, I don't believe that affection is the reason they're so flirty and dirty on camera. I think it goes like this:
Shane is devoted to Ryan, and Ryan knows this, and he loves it. And if his jokes imply that the devotion goes even deeper, then he loves that too!
To me, all the pestering/joking is them saying to each other, you allow me to be a pest because you love me. But they are careful with it, careful in their relationship. And, reader, that's what makes it such a fantastic dynamic. They love each other SO much.
But this just my personal onion. Sorry this got so long. Thank you for the ask!
...bruh. Out of literally all of the things that people guessed to be the topic...it was just straight up THIS. Which means that excellent fic fodder shall be provided. (I watched this episode when it came out but my brain was on fire the whole time and it it took awhile to process...)
...or is it? >:3
General Ep Thoughts
I love Joyce omfg <3 One of my fave guests!
2 people that can get Shane Madej to purr:
- 1.) Steven Lim (by complimenting Shane’s commentary voice in Watcher Weekly)
- 2.) Joyce because Joyce
Ryan asks Joyce if the list was written as a marry, f*ck, or get that a*s obliterated list...but instead of saying “f*ck” he does this gesture...
K*nk Counter: 1 (F*sting)
(Ryan says his list a mixture of both f*ck and marry btw)
I feel like Ryan saying this was lost on me in my first two watches but the third time, man oh man...seriously, do something nice for ya self today and re-watch this part.
How he thought we would think this meant anything other than V*agra??? Like, sir, you yourself have said that you become very sleepy/useless on, well, what you meant to say...
Their faces OMFG
I’m sorry Ryan, you WHAT NOW??? (This is proof positive, imo, of a common headcanon that if Ryan were to happen upon a k*nk of Shane’s, he would become obsessed with finding out more and would end up on an Internet deep dive (Nord VPN!)
(Also he goes on to say that he wouldn’t use the word s*xual to describe Shane and it’s like...what counts as being outwardly s*xual enough to garner that as a characteristic? XD Does Ryan think of himself as being s*xual? :o )
So then Shane does this in reply to what Ryan said...
and then Ryan’s like:
...
EXCUSE ME YOU WHAT NOW? Was this *just* to rile him up and make him *prove* that he was s*xual so you could watch?!?! Wat. WAT.
Full List Analysis for Ryan and Shane
So as far as DEEP ANALYSIS for their full lists are concerned, going from left to right:
Shane
The notes are a bit longer because he waffled back and forth between “these aren’t characters I would bang” to “yeah I’d bang Ursula” to “yeah, Fifi’s a smoke show.” Some people thought he might be faking some or all of his picks, some didn’t. Either way makes for good fic. So, I’ll just be typing my HCs as if they were all legit, for fun XD
5. Miss Bianca - 1920s Mommy (K*nk 2, A*geplay/Mommy K*nk) issues according to Joyce and he likes that she’s always ready for adventure. And then was just like “maybe a throuple situation.” AND I WAS JUST LIKE...BE STILL MY SHYANARA/SHARYELLE/SMASHR HEART???
4. Ursula - Likes that she’s powerful (K*nk 3, the “S” in B*SM) knows what she wants, and that she would c*sh him with her t*ntacles (K*nk 4, the “B” in B*SM and also K*nk 5, t*ntacles).
Ryan: So this is the one you wanna bang then?
Shane: Yeah!
3. Queenie - Mommy giving milk (K*nk 6, l*ctation), and the way he talks about nippyness (K*nk 7, n*pples), which of course meant Ryan had to chime in with (you want to do the sucking or you want to get sucked?). This shows not only Ryan’s previously known n*pple k*nk, but also low-key sounds like a convo that could easily be plucked from a switch fic. >:3 Unsure about that whole o*dipal thing though...
2. Rattigan - Wants to be him, not boink him, but he’ll wait and see what happens. MAJOR switch energ XD
1. Fifi - Regrets not putting Lumiere on there when he saw Ryan’s top hottest Disney characters involved him in the middle of two animated Lions ;) Also, human Fifi has a similar physique to Sara and feather duster Fifi has a dump truck a** like Ryan >:3
Ryan
5. Powerline - Bi King Bergara (K*nk 8, s*xy dancing).
4. Vixey - Ryan’s S*xual Awakening (K*nk 9, furry).
3. Esmerelda - Mentions her beautiful green eyes and lovely curly hair (like Mari’s ;-;); also mentions the green eyes of Scar and Nala; Shane says Ryan is gonna get a bit Topsy Turvy with his #3 pick, and then adds (or Bottomsy Turvy); more headcanon proof for switch!Shane ;)
2. Roxanne - Vanilla pick, cute nerdy girl; not much to say here unless I’d be stretching to make it fit for his crushes on various Buzzfeed people in fic :3
1. Nala/Simba - Ryan wants to be in a lion OT3 XD
Last Part of the Ep Thoughts
Joyce suggesting Ryan wants to be in the middle and Ryan goes into throuple!panic mode ;)
...why do we even bother with fic when they write it for us?/j