Hold on i gotta angst about Gamzee for a second because he's so defined my violence. He's portrayed so often by the fandom I think as violent and deranged, I was shocked to find out he only kills like, two people. The guy who only fought 1 imp at the beginning of sgrub, letvme remind you. I'm not saying its totally unfounded however, because he is certainly violent. He decapitated his dead friends, wrote messages in their blood (and his own but we will get there later), he did kill two people, and he sided with the people who wanted to end the world. He comments violence in a very literal way, and he comments emotional violence. He's mean or manipulative, he in is a very toxic relationship with Terezi at one point. But he is also the subject of a lot of violence himself (see, I told you we'd get here). There are some pretty good examples, like getting shot to hell by Caliborn, cut in half, his death in the epilogues, scaring his face with Nepeta's claws. I don't really know where I'm going but like.... Gamzee being defined as violent while so much violence also happens too him... and he's really only violent in specific states, like how he only attacked the king once in the sgrub session, but he did the most damage in one attack... I got a lot of Homestuck thoughts but they are all vague analysis with no real point.