#simon marks

[peachedou]

So . . . Paige and Simon with three daughters named Persimmon, Petal, and Peppermint.

[paigemathews]

Honestly, I think that Phoebe/Simon Marks could've been an interesting ship.

Out of the sisters, Phoebe definitely has the best reaction to Simon, which admittedly isn't necessarily difficult. He clearly finds her attractive, even specifically calling her "fetching" when he's literally there because he thinks he's destined to wed her sister lmao. Phoebe hears him out when he first arrives and is the one to confirm that their families apparently did work together.

Simon has a high respect for those with psychic/divination abilities because of the whole "we're genuinely destined" thing, even though Paige is against it. He seems to view powers that determine the future as concrete, which could lend itself to a respect of Phoebe's powers that she didn't often get as the sister with passive powers.

If Simon had stayed in San Francisco, they could definitely continually cross paths since Simon's family seems pretty well off and Phoebe, as a famous advice columnist, is attending these things as publicity for the paper and stuff. And Phoebe is the most sympathetic to him, even though she definitely thinks that Paige is valid for rejecting him, because Paige is frustrated by him and Piper is just. not here for this bullshit, so it's Phoebe that he ends up left with at the Manor a lot and over time, he begins to develop feelings for her but feels like it's wrong because he's destined for the wrong sister.

Additionally, there could be an element of learning to let go of the visions that you cling to and acknowledge that the future has the potential to change. This could go for both Phoebe letting go of her insistent desire for the exact little girl of her dreams (maybe with a heart-to-heart with Piper about how she had to let go of her own little girl from Morality Bites) while Simon lets go of the preconceived destined idea of his bride.

We could also always play with prophecies, however, with the idea that the sister Simon would marry would be a witch of two natures and everyone assumed it would be Paige as a Whitelighter-Witch, but it's actually Phoebe with her duality as Charmed One and (former) Queen of the Underworld, good and evil. (Idk, maybe Phoebe making Simon loosen up while he reignites Phoebe's love for magic, and Simon realizes that his preconceived notions about good and evil and magic aren't always to be trusted while Phoebe kind of finds her place in the magical community in a way that she seemed to want to find in earlier seasons but was unable to.)

[phoebehalliwell]

live simon reaction

[charmed1998confessions]

Remember when Simon was destined to be with Paige? That was random but entertaining, I liked how Henry fought for her and proved how being destined to be doesn't mean anything. He showed that he actually knew her.

[paigemathews]

For the pairing thingy can I get Simon Marks and Paige at the wedding of one of his kids to one of hers? I think that would be funny

Pairing: Simon Marks & Paige Matthews Background Pairings: Henry Mitchell Jr. / Anna Marks ( original character ) ; Paige Matthews / Henry Mitchell

It was at times like this that Paige wished she could drink. Clutching her glass like it was a potion vial and she was going up against the Source again, she was a little surprised it didn't even crack. She'd say grateful, but it would've been a valid excuse to disappear for a minute so. Unfortunately, that left her with no excuse as Simon Marks appeared on her side.

"I always did say that a pairing between the Warren line and the Marks line would be splendid," he bragged. Eying the couple, he admitted, "Perhaps a more... distinguished Warren, but splendid nonetheless."

Paige would like to say it was the knowledge that it was her son's wedding - and that Piper had spent hours decorating (after Paige, Henry, Leo, and Phoebe had been vanished after trying to help while Coop successfully pleaded his care for helping while Piper and Alicia, who played surprisingly nice for the typical haughty witch, argued about decorations for their nephew and younger sister's wedding respectively) - that kept her drink from ending up in Simon's face.

It was actually because she already finished it unfortunately. Gritting her teeth, she said, "I think that Henry is fine as he is."

Distinguished, he said, as if Anna didn't remind Paige of a significantly more rich version of herself as a teenager. Still, Anna, like Alicia, had a soft side to her, even if someone like Paige never saw it.

Across the hall, Paige watched her son smile as Anna smoothed one hand over her younger sister's hair. Lily was gesturing more emphatically than Paige had ever seen Simon's youngest daughter act, but she was adorable in her bridesmaid dress. For how fast everything went, Paige had to admit that Simon had spared no expense on his middle daughter's wedding.

"Peculiar though, isn't it?" Simon mused. "It seems that Anna's courtship with Harvey went by so quick. She didn't tell me about it until they were engaged even!"

"I wonder why," Paige said, just barely masking her tone from something more harsh. "and it's Henry, Simon."

Simon waved off of her comment with one hand, frowning. "It does seem a bit quick, but then again, it does seem to be a Marks' family trait!"

If he brought up his onetime pursuit of her, forget Piper's outrage, she was gonna spar him herself this time.

"After all, I knew that you were the Charmed sister I was destined to wed at first sight!"

Paige knew for a fact that there were swords in Marks Manor; she just had to find them first. Besides, wasn't it a Warren tradition that something happen at everyone of their weddings? Piper's had been hijacked by astral Prue, Phoebe's - well, what hadn't gone wrong with Phoebe's first marriage? Or her second? Paige's had been her and Henry's commitment issues and the Triad. Junior's would just be his mother kicking his father-in-law's ass.

"But even after you rejected my courtship, it took little more than a few moments in my dear Alyssa's company for me to fall in love," Simon reminisced, something softer in his voice.

Against herself, Paige couldn't help but feel her annoyance drain away. Alyssa Marks nee Wells had married Simon not even a year after his proposal to Paige, and despite the quick timeframe, the two had seemed utterly devoted to one another. From what she'd seen and heard from the Marks, Alyssa had been just as devoted, and significantly more hands-on than Simon, with their three daughters until the day she died when the girls were barely teenagers.

Paige missed her parents everyday, but it had been a special ache that neither of them had ever been able to meet her husband. It had been bearable with her sisters by her side, but still.

"I'm sure she'd be happy to see them together," Paige offered hesitantly. She hadn't known Alyssa very well, but she seemed like a kind person and had more Simon significantly more bearable when he was unavoidable.

Simon patted at his eyes with a handkerchief, and chuckled. "Oh, she'd have been ecstatic for our Anna. I'm sure that you two would have gotten along swimmingly over time as well!"

Paige wasn't sure about that; they hadn't seemed like they had much in common, but she wasn't going to disagree. The music started up again, and couples began swarming the floor.

Straightening, Simon turned to her and offered his hand, "Shall we dance, Miss Matthews? It does seem somewhat traditional on an occasion such as this, that the groom's mother and the bride's father should have a dance."*

Paige had never been one for tradition, but took his hand anyway for the sake of family unity and all that. (Also, if she went back to the sword idea, there were two crossed over the fireplace on one side of the dance floor.)

Twirling out on the floor, Paige tried to follow the steps while Simon chattered away in her ear about the planning process and how it had compared to his and Alyssa's wedding so many years ago.

Narrowly avoiding stepping on his foot, Paige tuned back in when Simon commented, "I must say, Anna never did tell me how they met and their courtship went. Did Hugo tell you?"

"Henry," Paige emphasized and then faltered. She actually wasn't totally sure when the two had gone on a date. It had been a bit quick, but could she say anything when her marriage had been similarly fast?

"Yes?" her husband said, with a cheeky smile. Paige could've kissed him as he asked Simon, "Isn't this the part where they switch partners?"

Simon, flustered, said, "Why, I don't think-"

"Father, please?" Alicia requested, already reaching for her father. She tilted her head just so, eyes flicking from Paige to Henry. It was as close to a signal as Paige was going to get, and she fully intended to take it.

It was more Alicia's elegance that allowed her to slip into her father's hold while Paige grabbed Henry's hand, but if it worked. As the music continued, Alicia smoothly led her father into the next stage of the dance until he began leading once again.

Meanwhile, Paige and Henry swayed for a moment, not following any steps besides their own. She pressed her forehead to her husband's shoulder and groaned while he let out a little huff of laughter. "That bad, huh?"

"It's Simon," Paige bemoaned.

"And to think, now we're related to him."

Paige gave her husband a dark look. "Don't remind me."

"Hey, who just saved you?" Henry grinned down at her, shuffling side to side before spinning her.

Paige pressed into his chest after, a smile on her lips, before she remembered Simon's last comment to her. "Did Junior tell you when he and Anna went on their first date?"

Henry opened his mouth and then faltered, eyes glazing over momentarily. He shook his head as if to dislodge something, and then said, "I mean, he must have told us about it at some point?"

Paige couldn't remember, and based on Henry's expression, he couldn't either. She couldn't quite master the feeling of unease.

That was about the time that Lily started shouting and Penny punched her brother in the face.

By the end of the night, the spell had been broken and Paige no longer had to worry about being related to Simon Marks. Sinking down on the stone steps next to Henry, she groaned, kicking off her heels. He lifted one arm around her shoulder on instinct as the two watched the clean-up of the former wedding venue. On one side, Anna and Junior were talking to a Marks' family lawyer about if "we were under a demonic spell" was a valid reason for an annulment.

On the other side, Lily and Patience, the babies of the Marks and Warren lines respectively, were both beet red from all of the praise for figuring out that their sister and cousin respectively was spelled. The two girls, who Paige was pretty sure had the same powers, seemed to be becoming fast friends as Lily grabbed Patience's hand to show her something on her palm.

Down from them, Alicia, somehow still picture perfect despite Paige personally seeing her electrocute a demon and then behead one in heels and a floor-length dress, was mid-conversation with her cousin Jonathan and Chris. She tossed her hair over one shoulder, and turned away from the boys to check on her sister. What she missed, and Paige didn't, was the way that Chris and Jonathan exchanged looks.

Henry, watching the same thing as her, said, "What are the odds of us not actually ending up in-laws to Simon Marks?"

Paige groaned against his shoulder, wondering if she could sic her brother-in-law on her niece and nephew. Surely, Coop could steer them away from a Marks love interest, right?

Patience looked up beneath her lashes shyly at Lily while Jonathan tugged Chris into his side by his belt loops.

At least it wasn't her kids this time.

*I don't actually think this is a thing, but idc.

[paigemathews]

Charmed + @dear-ao3 posts

[paigemathews]

So everyone remembers how Whitelighters and witches weren’t allowed to be together, and it was such a big thing but Simon Marks just casually shows up in season eight, right?

Well, my theory is that the Marks family is actually one of the reasons that Whitelighters and witches aren’t allowed to be together. We see in the flashforward in Forever Charmed that at least one of Piper and Leo’s grandchildren, Matthew, has the hybrid power of telekinetic orbing. While it’s possible that one of his parents were a Whitelighter, my perspective is that Whitelighter powers continue through the bloodline. (Actually, my perspective is that pretty much any other type of being will continue, explaining why Cupids weren’t allowed to be with witches either.)

Instead, what if it’s that once a Whitelighter is in the bloodline, those powers continue for generations? The wikia has Thaddeus Sutton Marks as Simon’s ancestor, without anyone mention of his partner in contrast to the following generations but what if it was because she was a Whitelighter? The Marks are deeply involved in the magical community, perhaps bc they’re a) powerful and b) connected to the Elders?

Because the thing is that without fail, every Whitelighter-witch hybrid we see is pretty powerful. Paige and Wyatt, obviously. But Simon has telekinesis, telekinetic orbing, and conjuration so it’s not exactly like he isn’t a pretty powerful witch as well. (I mean, he had no issue with the pure amount of control it took for him to duel Henry like that.) And Chris’s inferiority complex aside, he isn’t exactly weak either. (I mean, crushing the Valkyries’ hearts, manipulating an Elder’s orbing, and even baby!Chris bringing Wyatt back from the Manor which I don’t think we really saw anyone else do.)

That type of power could tip the scales if evil started gaining Whitelighter powers, along with that type of longevity meaning that even if the Elders can control the initial offspring, it will keep going. 

There’s also the fact that the Elders don’t have the same kind of control over hybrids as they do actual Whitelighters. We never see the Elders even attempt to threaten Paige or the boys’ powers, perhaps because they can’t. And when Paige fakes her death at the beginning of s8, the Elders think she’s dead as well but she still gets a charge. That’s no in the Elders’ control, so she’s still in full possession of those powers (and everything that entails) even without the Elders.

So imagine the Elders forbidding it after the Marks, because that’s a family that is (in vibes at least) allied strongly with the Elders. They’re strict and stick to the rules, but a lot of witches wouldn’t. Imagine if the Montanas or Callaways suddenly got Whitelighter powers in their feud. Imagine if the Warrens added Whitelighter powers to the bloodline with their fierce independence and defiant personalities. Imagine if a demon figured it out. (After all, blinking was technically originally a witch’s power, wasn’t it?)

[paigemathews]

This is a joke headcanon, but what if Gideon was Simon’s father or the Whitelighter in his line? This really is only because they’re both British Whitelighters, but:

They’re both British

Gideon defended Piper and Leo’s relationship, maybe because he had his own

Gideon was both an Elder and the Headmaster of Magic School, so it’d have been difficult to recycle his soul or punish him significantly

(Perhaps not being allowed to see the Marks family or being responsible for them in some way?)

Simon and Gideon both had telekinesis, telekinetic orbing, and conjuration

Simon’s education was at at least one magical school and Gideon was a Headmaster, which has multiple possibilities:

Gideon was the one who connected the Marks to Newcastle (magical college basically)

Gideon met a Marks at Magic School

idk, man, it feels like there could be a connection there

Simon is Very Socially Inept (while believing the opposite), so I feel like he would indeed be like, ah, yes, lemme propose to the aunt of the child my father tried to murder for the greater good. It’ll be like an alliance and shows that we won’t threaten him. :) Or alternatively. would not think to mention it at all.

That’s really all I got, because, like I said, crack theory. Still fun though.