#sinners ensamble

[storyfromlonglongago]

sinners relationships with their mommies and daddies

cherubim-nylpho: okay so imagine youre born and chucked into a dark disgusting basement INSTANTLY because, because your mother sees you as cursed by a baby she aborted and a man she had an affair with (a servant, specifically) and she is so distressed that she KILLS herself, you are, a devil, the thing that killed your mom! but of course theres nothing truly there at all... maybe a longing for True Unconditional Mother's Love, because venomania is,, misogynistic in exactly the way a donna tartt protagonist is lol. as for his stepmother well. im sure they didnt speak. but maybe his brother often spoke of her and so he felt a sort of connection there nonetheless. Its beautiful but it isnt real...

cherubim-ilotte: me when king minos and the minotuar.¹

banica-megour: I just ranted for a whole ass post about this... she sees herself as her mother. She sees herself as the demon. She confuses & conflates the demon with her mother. Her goal of anything is because she fears her mother. Her identity is based on traits her mother gave to her. Her intended last words were also the last words of her mother.

banica- ??gonna be real i forgot his name. mezuru?: certainly communicates Something to youe child when you won't or can't lift a finger against your wife for screaming at and forcing food down your child's mouth but cut her down when she takes "unacceptable actions" ie cannibalism. banica conchitaibalism

ril-anne: "out of respect for her mother she has elected to remain a princess" Man. :( anne wasnt even that good a mom tbh when you look at how ril and allen turned out. she watches and learns from the adults around her... her emulation of her mother... do you think maybe in her later years she realized oh maybe the warmongering king and his schemeing queen were not the best people. ah.

ril-arth: me #continuing my father's #imperialistic expansion wars!

margy-mrs. felix: did i ever have a mother? I cant remember.

margy-marx(😭): BAD bad bad BAD BAD BAD terrible going from studying your child like a lab rat to betrothing her at the oldest 15 to someone half a decade older than her for social status?! Dude KILL YOURSELF for real. or your daughter'll kill you, just as well²

kayo- rahab: dont even get me started. Rahab misdirects kokutan, explictly because she wants the world not to end so she can laze around a little longer, but also because she thought kayo could use a child, someone to care for... kayo's mother is dead, her father is dead, her husband & child are dead and shes left with nothing and nobody. She has her mother's Nature, a mermaid who envies and loves... an ugly unkillable monster. and ofc to top it all off she kills with her mother both literally and figuratively lol. kagura cares for her in an abstract way that kinda really confuses me. Kagura is so chill about everything I think maybe nyoze might secretly be descended from her instead of noted malder anan octo

kayo-nagare: well he died in a plague and thats kinda sad I guess.³

gallerian-ma: see this is the one relationship that's super super interesting but literally only on ma's end because to gallerian shes just a lady who looks exactly like and has almost the same name as his mom, who also had sex with him. the cheating & the grooming is not really what im looking for here

gallerian-gandalf:???blank and nothing?? you get the feeling gallerian was parentified as a kid

nemesis-ma: ouughh. nemesis in that cabin hearing hansel and gretel say that at least theyre not All alone. deluding herself into thinking that her mother loved her and visited her... a far-away warm figure to look fondly back at becuase she had no warmth in her life none at all. left with nothing... killing her. being strangled by her. sobbing over her corpse.

nemesis-gallerian: me when my dad who is my boss forces me to shoot my boyfriend and also murdered my ragtag street gang for actions I and only I took

1: it intrigues me so bad that cherubim was allowed the venomania name. with how ilotte behaves otherwise you'd think he'd be given the name of the servant that nylpho had an affair with. a malformed, hated, scapegoat is still your child, still a member of the "venomanias". the labyrinth was built to house the minotaur... he was named for king minos...

2: I think margarita on the surface is the same as she is to Kaspar except less of the prince stuff. but obviously she envied and resented and hated him too. marx at the end of his life: holy shit im the reed warbler raising a cuckoo

3: lest we forget rahab also found him sexy enough to be extremely motivating⁴

4: I decided to start doing my footnotes again. I missed doing them...

[storyfromlonglongago]

Its really interesting to me how many of the deadly sin contractors are shaped by romantic pursuits & such. oftentimes their Partner is the first person who really treats them well, eh?

[storyfromlonglongago]

technically gallerian becomes hanma baldured,

[storyfromlonglongago]

trends in sinners that were either realized by me or pointed out to me. Kayo is the mold breaker, she’s also the only person here with no european[evilliousian]blood, funnily enough, but starting with her all the sinners are Japanese.because ma. I did this because I remembered how many of these guys actually tried to/ actually did kill themselves

[storyfromlonglongago]

recent discussion on discord leads me to dip into my one true love (tierlistmaking)

more in depth under the cut as always

kayo: despite being the sinner with the least overall harm caused/most justified True Target i am so in love with how extraordinarily brutal she is with all her victims. She's Mei's neighbor! She jumps a neighbor she's had for at least half a decade, slashes her in the throat repeatedly, and when that doesnt kill her she stabs her so many times in the chest that its specifically called out how many wounds there are (i cant remember if its on mei's corpse or her clothes) then leaves her naked dead body just. In the streets near her house. she stabs a pregnant teenager to death (specifically yknow in the stomach area because that's where the obi, which was damaged, is worn) and throws her in the river! crazy stuff I really like her

sateriasis: that one scene where gumina is hiding in her room and hearing him rip her family and their servants apart is terrifying. especially when her maid comes in and is all "what we're all happy fun times here! why dont you come out?" venomania raping people is a different type of intimate violence (and he does it quite a lot) but he also kills people he knows, like someone he believes to be his uncle by ripping them apart, and as cherubim is noted to be kind of very violent on his Veno Death Spree. but i think because it isnt Described like mei's murder it doesnt Feel as visceral. nontheless.

nemesis: fairly straightforward. Shes a gunman and she goes for the head. She's not noted to frex shoot out the joints of anyone she kills (even if shes pursuing someone: tony) . Nuclear bombs are pretty fucking brutal though, and also indiscriminate. I didnt know how to rank it so I just did it by the people she kills herself

banica: she doesnt Kill people she knows lol but she sure does eat randos alive. also have her sevrants zombie and or literally crucify people which is so funny idk why

margarita: okay Yes she kills an entire town of people But its Supposed to feel peaceful .while they die. shes not doing it to cause pain! she hates them all sure but they do die sleeping.

ril: her song calls out specifically how untouched she is by all this violence she causes. I like the parallel bits in cloture and wiegenlied where during the green hunting riliane is shown gossiping and having tea with her maids while in contrast green hunting in wiegenlied is the most harrowing bit in the entire story just constant Stress and Worry and Anguish

gallerian: so detached from the actual impacts of what hes doing that his two biggest opps fly under the radar right in front of his nose. like gammon is standing in the back of the court muttering ominously dude you might as well notice that he looks literally identical to that one dude you framed and get worried at least a Little Bit